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ufos seem to be invading both our skies

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and our news outlets like never before

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and more people are starting to look up

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and are wondering who or what might be

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out there in 2016 ryan sprague

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introduced the world to countless ufo

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encounters that had never been made

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public before and now in the second

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edition of his book he revisits these

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events and introduces brand new ufo

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cases in somewhere in the skies a human

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approach to the ufo phenomenon how have

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these events changed the lives of those

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this is somewhere in the skies with ryan

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my story happened in the early morning

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of june 29th

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2016. oddly enough just a couple weeks

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visited roswell new mexico of all places

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and i was asleep in my bed

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on a ground i live in a ground floor

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i woke up to hearing my bulldog growling

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from the living room he was uh sleeping

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on the couch

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and at first i thought that he

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was growling at my neighbor who worked

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nights at the time and i thought maybe

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he was coming home but he knows that

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neighbor very well and i thought it was

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odd that he'd be growling

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uh but i could tell

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as i sat there for about 30 seconds

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listening to his growl

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get louder that he was about to

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start barking loudly and it was four

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o'clock in the morning

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was about to get out of bed and then my

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other dog who was sleeping with me at

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terrier

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she started barking and shot out into

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the living room

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i stumbled out of bed i was trying to

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round them up and as i rounded the

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corner from my hallway into the living

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room

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uh i was staring at my window that looks

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out onto a sort of front porch area

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it's actually kind of a

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my building there's a driveway that runs

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up along

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uh the side so that window looks out

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into the driveway

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and there were lights from

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the building uh

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the little um

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i don't know what you'd call a little

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patch of grass alcove where the trees

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are planted there's lights projected up

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from the ground onto my window and my

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curtains were drawn and

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i could see that there was immediately

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there was a figure at the window

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i could see its silhouette projected

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from the uh

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gardening lights whatever you want to

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call those up to the um to my window

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but what was curious about it was

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instead of it being

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the

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silhouette of of a human being

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this

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was the shadow i saw was a long skinny

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and a

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rounded head with a pointy chin

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i couldn't see any details because the

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curtains were drawn

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my dogs are going abe barking at

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this uh

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figure

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and it was so on the nose that at first

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i was like well that looks like an alien

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it was like a classic

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gray silhouette something that looked

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straight out of close encounters

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this figure turned its head to

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its left to my right

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and i could see

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the head and neck sort of undulate

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and i could see where the

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neck was fused at the

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the back of the head

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and it looked like a

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golf wedge almost except not it was like

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a golf club um it was actually the best

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way to describe it but like a flatter um

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like you know how in e.t like the long

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neck connects to the back of the head

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um imagine that but the

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head is much you know shorter

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um or not is not as long i should say

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and you know it's like a classic again

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like a classic gray alien

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and when i saw that

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went holy

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and you know looking back i should have

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steeled myself but again you have to

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remember the dogs are going crazy it's

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four o'clock in the morning

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i turned on the lights in my hallway and

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this thing ran away from my window

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towards the back of the building

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so i walked down into my front patio

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that overlooks the same kind of area

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and i looked down on my left i couldn't

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see anything and at that point my next

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door neighbor the one that i thought was

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originally coming home

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he walked out onto his porch and he

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asked me what was going on

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and i didn't want to use the word alien

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so i said

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something somebody was just looking in

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my window

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and he said oh my gosh that's so uh

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weird because i've been home for an hour

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watching uh netflix on my laptop in my

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bedroom and i kept taking my headphones

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off because i could have sworn something

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so we walked around the um

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the property

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couldn't find anything um that window is

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the windowsill

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is about three and a half four feet

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maybe off the uh the ground i should

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have measured it i could still do it i

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still live in the same building

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um but uh

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i couldn't see any shoulders or hands it

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was just a long neck and this head and i

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had my neighbor kind of humor me and i

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was like will you stand here while i go

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inside and take a look at this

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and he was confused but obliged and

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the silhouette created by my neighbor

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who is a you know average height

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male

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uh looked completely different

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uh nothing else happened that night i

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uh i don't know what this thing was

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other ufo activity that took place like

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or missing time there were no lights

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involved

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nothing of that kind of phenomenon

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it was almost as if this whatever this

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thing was

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was an entity passing by

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and i bet because my bulldog snores so

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loud which is often why he's in the

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living room

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i have a feeling this thing was

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passing through

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and heard

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my bulldog snoring

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and was peering into the window

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to try to figure out what this sleeping

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creature was inside this apartment

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and then at some point in the process my

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bulldog woke up sense that there was

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something there and was you know he it

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must have been standing there for a

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couple minutes because i was listening

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my dog growl at this thing for at least

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30 seconds before i got out of bed

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um so yeah i don't know what it is i can

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only describe it based on

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what it looked like to me and what it

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looked like to me

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was an alien gray

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something that was maybe

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terrestrial or

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i know that sounds weird but it almost

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felt like i'd seen a leprechaun or an

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elf more than i'd seen a quote unquote

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alien it was something that i was not

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that that was passing by that i was not

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supposed to see

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and that's my story i hear my bulldog

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walking up here right now

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in september of 1978 i was a youngish

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bureaucrat with the state of michigan

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and was on a sunday evening trip along

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with a workmate headed between lansing

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and kalamazoo which are both in south

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central to western michigan we were on

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i-94 which connects detroit and chicago

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having passed battle creek headed toward

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as we were traveling west i noticed that

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beyond the eastbound lanes and a line of

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trees there were some aerial lights that

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did not look normal to me and i asked

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the driver driver to start to stop the

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which she did

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whatever we were looking at

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reacted to our stopping it made an

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incredibly tight left turn

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and now at some perhaps 20 miles an hour

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and descending went directly over our

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car 200 to 300 feet in the air

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still descending over a newly harvested

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some couple of hundred feet from us it

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made a very tight circle about a 270

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ballerina's pirouette it was so tight

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this object

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in a wingspan something approaching

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i did not hear a thing i know that

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others

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in connection with boomerang sightings

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have said they heard a light humming

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sound i did not

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while this was performing this pirouette

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and moving so slowly the driver shouted

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at me to run after it which sounded

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immediately like a fine idea still kind

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of looking up i started to run

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forgetting that every interstate has a

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metal fence and i bounded off this one

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like a trampoline and landed on my

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posterior i immediately started laughing

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to at myself thinking

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whoever is inside this thing they're

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probably thinking beam us up scotty

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there's no intelligent life down here

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but as i crawled back onto my feet

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a queasy feeling came over me that

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i wasn't supposed to

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run right up underneath this i was

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supposed to just stand here and take it

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all in

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which we did for a couple of more

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minutes until i noticed taillights in

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the distance on a

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side dirt road

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on the other side of the field i felt i

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need more witnesses and i raced down

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that newly harvested cornrow

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and caught up with a 40-ish man and his

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adolescent son who were outside their

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car and looking at the same thing

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as we were trading notes primarily about

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the beginning of the sighting for

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for me

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it began moving ever so slowly first at

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just walking speed then jogging and

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picking up pace slowly while staying

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very low to the ground and in five more

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minutes it was gone

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i cannot tell you that what i looked at

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was a military vehicle

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a ufo or anything in between i just know

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that it was

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damn strange to me

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i first joined mufon in april 1978

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and immediately set myself up with the

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lansing police the county sheriff the

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state police

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and airports to receive calls from

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people who believe they had seen a ufo

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the police didn't want these calls and

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mufon did so it was a good marriage

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in late september of that year

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from the small town west of lansing

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where i resided

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i received about seven o'clock in the

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minutes thereafter three calls

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right in a row by people who said they

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had seen an odd red light

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meandering over a river that coursed

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through lansing

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well i went out onto my back property

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and looked eastward toward

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lansing to determine what these people

333
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were looking at either something easily

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identified or perhaps something more

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than that

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as i was looking and dusk was falling

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the stars just starting to pop out

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what i thought were two stars suddenly

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and simultaneously started moving

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one went

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further east and the other approached my

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little town going west

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as it came closer i could tell this was

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not just a single red light it was

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actually four lights two red and two

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green at opposite corners of a square

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formation perhaps ten feet to a side and

348
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they were blinking red and green now i

349
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didn't know a lot of things but i did

350
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know that faa rules prohibited any

351
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aircraft or helicopter or anything

352
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flying from having two green lights

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so i opened the back door and shouted

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into my then wife i just got a drive on

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this one i hopped into my mustang

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charged out onto the county road heading

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farther west

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by now these lights still in a square

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still blinking red green

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red

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i

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well

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that wasn't going to work

364
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several miles farther

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west

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there was a little tiny village set off

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the road and

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as the lights and i chasing them

369
00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:02,959
approached this village they suddenly

370
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shot diagonally across the road and over

371
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that little one block business district

372
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of the village

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as they did

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it lit up and the sky for many thousands

375
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of feet above it lit up in white for

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just a split second like a flash bulb

377
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and i thought

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whoever this is they just took a picture

379
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of this little village that makes no

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sense

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well the lights kept going angularly to

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the northwest and i knew the road

383
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continued straight west so i had to get

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off it i found a gravel road to the

385
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north and then one to the west and north

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and west i was losing

387
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distance to the lights which were going

388
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as they say as the crow flies

389
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trees were up close to the road i was

390
00:18:02,230 --> 00:17:59,679
flying down rolling gravel roads hoping

391
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that i didn't encounter any car coming

392
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the other way

393
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and

394
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finally after a number of minutes

395
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the trees gave away around me the road

396
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straightened out into a large area of

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farm fields

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and there they were the same red lights

399
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in the square red and green blinking

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alternately they were situated some

401
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50 or 60 yards away from me hovering

402
00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:33,760
perhaps 10 or 15 feet above a field

403
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i pulled off onto a driveway that led

404
00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:40,480
way back to a darkened farmhouse

405
00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:43,600
angled my car toward the lights and all

406
00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:46,160
i could think to do initially was to try

407
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something like a morse code which i

408
00:18:53,029 --> 00:18:50,240
didn't know

409
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with my headlights blanking blanking

410
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blanking and so forth

411
00:19:01,350 --> 00:18:58,880
the lights kept going red and green

412
00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:01,360
slowly and hovering

413
00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:04,320
above this field after some five minutes

414
00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:06,960
of trying my quote-unquote morse code i

415
00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:09,520
thought well it's time to do what you

416
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came here to do

417
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walk right up underneath them and see

418
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what happens i opened the door of my

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mustang i stood up between the body and

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the door of the car

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and something happened

422
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i

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went

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blank in my mind i don't know for how

425
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long perhaps a minute

426
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perhaps an hour i just don't know to

427
00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:36,799
this day

428
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when i kind of came back into a full

429
00:19:44,070 --> 00:19:41,760
awareness again

430
00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:44,080
the lights were no longer in front of me

431
00:19:49,909 --> 00:19:46,960
and i thought what the hey and i whirled

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around instinctively and now they were

433
00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:53,520
behind me in an adjacent farm field

434
00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:56,240
still about 12 or 15 feet above the

435
00:20:01,750 --> 00:19:59,440
ground still blinking in this monotonous

436
00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:01,760
red green fashion

437
00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:04,320
but the thought of walking up to them

438
00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:06,559
never occurred to me again

439
00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:09,760
and i got a queasy feeling i'm

440
00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:12,480
interrupting something whoever is behind

441
00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:14,320
these lights

442
00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:17,360
they have some sort of an agenda which i

443
00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:19,039
am delaying

444
00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:21,200
so i started my car

445
00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:23,280
and i drove away

446
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:27,280
when i got back home it was now dark i

447
00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:30,480
really did not check a clock to see how

448
00:20:34,789 --> 00:20:33,200
long i had been gone it was longer than

449
00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:34,799
i should have been

450
00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:38,480
but i lay down in my lazy boy chair

451
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:41,520
and i just started rocking and thinking

452
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:43,679
whoever these guys are

453
00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:46,320
they don't need weapons they just bend

454
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:48,640
your mind a little bit and you do

455
00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:50,720
exactly what they want

456
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:54,240
in my case it was to drive away

457
00:20:57,830 --> 00:20:56,400
i have a story for you that

458
00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:57,840
is actually my daughter's story and i

459
00:21:01,590 --> 00:20:59,360
tried to get her to tell it she'll do

460
00:21:03,909 --> 00:21:01,600
photographs you know for her facebook so

461
00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:03,919
i did manage to get her to do a note

462
00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:05,840
about it after she told me it happened

463
00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:07,840
in february she calls me up it's around

464
00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:09,840
eight o'clock in the morning and she's

465
00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:11,600
like i answer the phone i'm still in the

466
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,240
bed and she's like mom you're not gonna

467
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:16,400
believe how insignificant we are and i

468
00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:17,440
was like

469
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:19,200
what and she says

470
00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:21,120
you you just don't even know you just

471
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:22,960
don't even know i've been waiting all

472
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:25,200
night to call you i've never been to bed

473
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:27,039
you're not gonna believe what i saw she

474
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,320
was well actually if anyone would

475
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:30,320
believe it it will be you but you're not

476
00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:32,880
gonna believe what i saw and i was like

477
00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:34,400
well you know i'm confused what are you

478
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:36,320
talking about so

479
00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:37,440
um

480
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:39,360
she tells me that uh she was gonna call

481
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:40,400
me as soon as it happened but her

482
00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:41,760
boyfriend convinced her that it was too

483
00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:43,840
late at night not to bother calling me

484
00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:44,960
and um

485
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:46,400
she hadn't been able to sleep so she

486
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:48,080
called me as soon as she just couldn't

487
00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:49,600
wait anymore which was around eight in

488
00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:52,480
the morning she's a very um

489
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:54,799
very private person but this was bigger

490
00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:56,960
than her as she put it this was bigger

491
00:22:01,110 --> 00:21:59,120
than everything that you think you know

492
00:22:02,549 --> 00:22:01,120
or anything they'll ever tell you

493
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:02,559
they've been

494
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:06,000
society churches everything

495
00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:07,360
so i'm just going to read you the note

496
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:10,480
that she put on her facebook

497
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:12,159
last night while my boyfriend and i were

498
00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:14,240
laying on the couch watching tv he saw a

499
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:16,000
light out of the corner of his eye and

500
00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:19,039
told me to look at how low the plane was

501
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:20,320
when we opened the blinds and got a

502
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:22,000
better look we realized that it was an

503
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:24,720
irregularly shaped aircraft so low to

504
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:26,000
the ground it was almost brushing the

505
00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:27,520
tops of the trees

506
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:29,280
there was no sound in the room and yet

507
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:31,280
we couldn't hear the act the aircraft

508
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:33,120
making noise at all

509
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:35,039
it was completely silent and gliding

510
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:37,440
smoothly it had four lights on the

511
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,400
underside in a row a white a red another

512
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:42,000
white and then a blue

513
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:44,400
in the front set apart from the rest was

514
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:45,919
a bright white light that was bigger

515
00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:47,200
than the others

516
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:49,120
i couldn't make out a body shape it

517
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:51,360
looked almost like floating lights

518
00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:53,039
common sense tells me that if there was

519
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:54,640
a body the bright lights would have

520
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:57,440
illuminated it enough for me to see

521
00:23:01,909 --> 00:22:59,760
i knew immediately what i was looking at

522
00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:01,919
in the instant that i saw it within two

523
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:03,760
seconds the lights began cutting off one

524
00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:05,919
by one starting in the front with the

525
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:08,720
bigger brighter light the others cut off

526
00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:10,720
in the back one by one from left to

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right

528
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:14,880
it was over in about 15 seconds

529
00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:16,960
it was massive and hovering directly

530
00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:19,600
above the backyard i was looking up at

531
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:21,840
it directly under it it was

532
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:24,320
approximately 30 feet wide and 20 feet

533
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:26,640
long now after she wrote this note we

534
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:29,200
got to talking about the size comparison

535
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:31,120
uh you know compared to

536
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:33,120
the mobile home she's in

537
00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:36,240
uh which is surrounded by trees it's um

538
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:38,559
in like an i don't know it's like a cut

539
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:40,480
out in the woods at the beginning of

540
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:42,559
their neighborhood surrounded by trees

541
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,559
there's a water like a water runoff in

542
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:46,320
the back it's swampy

543
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:49,200
behind that tree line in their backyard

544
00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:50,799
and it's bigger than what she thought

545
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:54,400
the 30 by 20 it's bigger she realized

546
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:56,480
afterward my boyfriend and i were on

547
00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:58,480
edge waiting to see something else when

548
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:00,640
we finally settled back down exactly one

549
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:03,840
hour later we saw another

550
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:05,840
it was going the opposite direction of

551
00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:07,360
the first and it was completely

552
00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:09,520
different this one made a slight humming

553
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:12,080
noise just hardly loud enough to hear

554
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:14,559
and it had a wingspan like a plane but

555
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,480
they were squared as opposed to be an

556
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:18,240
aerodynamic

557
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:21,520
four red lights lined the wingspan

558
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:23,120
there was a mass on the back but i

559
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:25,760
couldn't make out what shape it was in

560
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,400
as it happened faster than the first one

561
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:30,320
i ran to the next window after it was

562
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:32,480
out of my eyesight to get a better look

563
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:35,440
but it was gone no noise nothing the

564
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:37,120
strangest thing about all of it was that

565
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:39,279
my boyfriend and i saw different colors

566
00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:41,039
on the second one

567
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,039
although we saw the exact same thing at

568
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:45,360
the exact same time i saw four red

569
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:47,600
lights and he saw four yellow

570
00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:49,200
i trust without a doubt that he knows

571
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:51,440
what he just what he saw just as he

572
00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:52,480
trusts me

573
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:54,880
there's no explanation as to why

574
00:24:59,190 --> 00:24:57,039
we would see two separate things while

575
00:25:01,830 --> 00:24:59,200
staring at the same thing

576
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:01,840
finally today

577
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:04,080
at 5 30 p.m right as the sun was

578
00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:06,080
starting to set we saw out the back

579
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:08,240
kitchen window some sort of smoothie

580
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:11,360
smoothly gliding mess it wasn't round it

581
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,080
wasn't oblong it wasn't cylindrical i

582
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:16,320
couldn't put my finger on how to explain

583
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,480
it all i really took away from it was

584
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:20,320
that it had purpose

585
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:22,559
it looked like it was on a mission it

586
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:25,120
just wasn't floating along smacking into

587
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:27,520
the limbs it dodged them and landed on

588
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,400
the ground

589
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,480
by the time i got on my shoes and ran

590
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:32,640
into the woods it was gone

591
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:35,440
all in all what i saw was undeniable

592
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:37,039
i couldn't write it off as something

593
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:39,919
else because it wasn't far away it was

594
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:43,279
close enough to throw rocks at i'm not

595
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:45,679
crazy i'm not on drugs i wasn't under

596
00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:47,919
the influence of anything

597
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:49,039
and

598
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,120
what she um

599
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:53,600
kept saying afterwards was const it was

600
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:56,320
all the time it was

601
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:58,320
you're insignificant i would ask her are

602
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:59,840
you coming over for dinner tonight she'd

603
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:00,960
go yeah

604
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:02,320
i'd say well what do you want to eat

605
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:04,080
she'd go it doesn't really matter it's

606
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:06,400
insignificant and i'd be like oh come on

607
00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:08,000
she'd laugh and go i'm serious mom

608
00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:10,640
there's nothing matters anymore

609
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:14,000
nothing is what we think it is nothing

610
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:16,000
and for people that doubt her she says

611
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,039
um

612
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:18,960
her exact quote

613
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:22,000
um you can be a believer oh you don't

614
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:24,880
believe ask me how to call 1-800 you

615
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:27,039
didn't see what i saw

616
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:28,720
um her boyfriend never believed in any

617
00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:29,600
of that

618
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:32,720
ever he's from north carolina he's very

619
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:35,360
very down-home very you know

620
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:37,120
and he said

621
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,880
he doesn't need to see nothing else he i

622
00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:40,640
don't need to see anything else to know

623
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:42,720
to know that things are not what we have

624
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,919
been told

625
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:45,600
um

626
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:47,200
she said it changed her outlook on

627
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:47,770
everything

628
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:48,880
[Music]

629
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:51,840
i felt insignificant and yet so pr

630
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,240
privileged and i know she felt

631
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:56,159
privileged i would have loved to have

632
00:27:02,070 --> 00:26:58,720
seen that whatever it was that she saw

633
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:02,080
whatever it was she saw was powerful

634
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:05,760
it changed my child it changed my child

635
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:06,880
completely

636
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:09,360
she did not sleep solid for almost two

637
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:10,640
months

638
00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:13,360
just sleep did not happen for her

639
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:15,200
she was a little scared

640
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:18,240
she was confused anybody would be

641
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:19,279
but uh

642
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:20,960
she's one of the same as people i know

643
00:27:24,390 --> 00:27:22,960
she's the grounded one she keeps me in

644
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:24,400
check so

645
00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:25,440
um

646
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,679
that's her story and

647
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:29,279
around that same time i did a little

648
00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:31,120
research online uh they have like

649
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:32,799
websites and different things where you

650
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:35,120
can check reports that were made in your

651
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:37,520
area or in other areas

652
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:40,000
and quite a few reports were made within

653
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:40,720
the

654
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:42,880
about 15 to 20 days

655
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:45,200
around that time frame give or take for

656
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,480
this area

657
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:48,720
um right through the edgecomb county

658
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:52,240
nash county wilson county area

659
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:55,360
there were a string of events publicly

660
00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:56,399
viewed

661
00:28:02,070 --> 00:27:59,120
and i think it was arizona

662
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,080
right around the same time

663
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:04,880
i mean like police officers and

664
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:08,000
lawyers and i mean people with stature

665
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:09,760
in the community witnessed it and were

666
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:10,799
like

667
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:12,880
you know i know what i saw and of course

668
00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:14,640
no one doubts them

669
00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:17,120
but uh yeah so um

670
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,399
i believe my daughter and not because

671
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:20,399
she's my kid but because i know her

672
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:21,200
so

673
00:28:27,460 --> 00:28:24,799
there's her story and um

674
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:27,470
she says we're insignificant

675
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,880
[Music]

676
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:32,240
hello

677
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:35,039
my name is larry gessner

678
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:36,320
and

679
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:40,880
when i was approximately 15 years old

680
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:43,440
this would be somewhere around

681
00:28:46,990 --> 00:28:46,000
1968

682
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:47,000
somewhere in there

683
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:48,480
[Music]

684
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,000
i had a ufo sighting this

685
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:54,799
was something that changed my life

686
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:57,600
my friend and i we lived in

687
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,399
upstate new york i say upstate new york

688
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,640
probably about 50 miles north of new

689
00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:04,960
york city in a town called monroe new

690
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:06,640
york

691
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:10,960
my friend and i uh lived

692
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:13,279
next to each other and

693
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:15,760
we'd like to fish

694
00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:17,840
and we were always curious to see if

695
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:20,960
catfish would uh

696
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:22,000
bite

697
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:25,600
uh from uh if we went out in a boat on

698
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:27,600
the lake we had a lake right next door

699
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:29,360
to us it was uh called orange and

700
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:31,840
rockland lake very small lake

701
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,480
uh but had stocked well with fish and

702
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,480
people always used to fish it

703
00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:38,559
but we had this idea that we would go

704
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:40,640
out at night in a row boat and go

705
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:42,640
catfishing

706
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:45,440
and so we go and we get in the boat

707
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:46,320
and

708
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:48,799
roll out to oh i don't know somewhere

709
00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:50,080
probably about

710
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:50,960
50

711
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:53,039
60 feet offshore maybe a little bit more

712
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:55,200
than that and we're just sitting there

713
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,240
it's a clear night stars are out

714
00:30:02,389 --> 00:30:00,480
uh you know we're fishing we're not

715
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:02,399
really getting anything so we're just

716
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:04,640
basically talking to each other

717
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:07,120
and looking up at the stars

718
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:11,679
and as i'm looking to the i want to say

719
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:14,960
the north east

720
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:17,200
i spot something something catches my

721
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:18,880
eye and

722
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:21,279
what it appears to be is a meteor at

723
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:24,880
first but then i realized that it's

724
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:27,520
traveling in an upwards direction

725
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:29,919
and everything that i knew

726
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:32,159
told me that meteors you know fall down

727
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:35,679
or parallel or at a right angle coming

728
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:38,320
downward from the sky so this was kind

729
00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:40,080
of puzzling to me

730
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,399
and so i mentioned that to my friend my

731
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:44,880
friend's name was wayne

732
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:47,200
and i said wayne

733
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:50,240
what is that this that's not a meteor

734
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:52,799
and we started to look at it

735
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:55,919
and we watched it traveling in an upward

736
00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:57,440
direction

737
00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:59,760
uh coming from the northeast

738
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:01,039
and

739
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:03,200
what was puzzling about this

740
00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:05,440
was that

741
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:07,679
when you looked at it it looked like a

742
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:09,039
star

743
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:11,840
traveling at a lower altitude

744
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,720
and

745
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,000
it just kept

746
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:15,840
coming and coming and then all of a

747
00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:16,880
sudden

748
00:31:21,020 --> 00:31:19,520
something dawned on me that

749
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:21,030
i was looking at

750
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,320
[Music]

751
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:24,720
i don't know how to express it it was

752
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:26,320
just that

753
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:29,360
the the light was

754
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:30,880
moving if

755
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:33,200
you know it dawned on me that this thing

756
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:34,640
whatever it was

757
00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:37,840
was traveling at a higher rate of speed

758
00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:40,080
and that what we were looking at was it

759
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:42,559
was at a higher altitude

760
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,640
and it was

761
00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:46,480
traveling

762
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:49,039
upward and it was giving us the

763
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:51,519
impression that it was traveling upward

764
00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:54,399
but what it was doing in actuality was

765
00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:56,320
it was following the curvature of the

766
00:32:03,430 --> 00:31:59,919
earth and it's very hard to express this

767
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:03,440
and your mind just sort of is boggled by

768
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:06,000
this at first but then what happens is

769
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:08,000
we're following the start now wayne and

770
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:10,399
i are both locked on this

771
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,279
and all of a sudden it gets to about 11

772
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:15,679
o'clock position in the sky

773
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:18,720
stops dead on a dime now now we're

774
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:20,000
freaked out

775
00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:21,760
because this is something we've never

776
00:32:25,509 --> 00:32:23,679
seen before in our entire lives i've

777
00:32:27,269 --> 00:32:25,519
never seen anything like this and i'm

778
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:27,279
trying to figure out what

779
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:28,799
what's going on

780
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:31,200
and as we stand you know we we're in the

781
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:32,799
boat looking at this

782
00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:34,080
and

783
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:35,679
trying to figure out how this is even

784
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:37,360
possible

785
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:38,880
you know there's no aircraft that we

786
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:40,720
know that can do something like this and

787
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:42,880
i mean this is just a solid white light

788
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:45,200
like a like a star

789
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:47,840
and we were focused on it and what

790
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:49,360
seemed to be

791
00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:50,399
oh

792
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:51,919
uh minutes

793
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:53,600
but it was probably

794
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:56,720
uh you know 30 seconds maybe maybe a

795
00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:58,480
little bit more but it seemed like it

796
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:00,080
was just we were just

797
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:03,760
you know mesmerized by this thing

798
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:07,200
we look at it and all of a sudden

799
00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:08,960
this thing

800
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:11,519
changes direction and shoots across the

801
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:13,919
sky going south

802
00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:16,480
at an unbelievable

803
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:18,559
pace i mean this thing just shot across

804
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:20,480
the sky faster than anything i'd ever

805
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:22,960
seen before in my entire life and it

806
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:24,480
completely

807
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:26,880
went all the way to the horizon i mean

808
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,159
we could see

809
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:30,720
uh see it for as long as we could and it

810
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:33,360
was i mean it covered a vast distance

811
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:36,960
but it was gone it was just gone

812
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:40,080
and that was the first time

813
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:42,320
that reality hit me

814
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:44,960
and i realized that we are not alone in

815
00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:46,240
the universe

816
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:47,440
and

817
00:33:52,149 --> 00:33:49,919
at that point you know in 1968 we're

818
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:52,159
just we're basically just landed on the

819
00:34:02,310 --> 00:33:59,430
we we had no idea what this was all we

820
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:02,320
knew was it moved really fast and it had

821
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:04,320
some extraordinary capabilities to be

822
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:07,120
able to stop on a dime like that

823
00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:11,750
when we

824
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:13,200
you know sat there and talked to each

825
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,639
other it was just like we were just so

826
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:16,560
amazed and we couldn't wait to tell

827
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:18,320
anybody i mean it was like the next day

828
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:21,599
in school uh you know i'm like a

829
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:25,200
freshman in high school and

830
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:27,280
that we're trying to express everybody

831
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:29,520
we saw ufo and everybody's laughing at

832
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:30,960
so yeah sure

833
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:33,359
what are you guys smoking you know and

834
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:37,829
it was so profound

835
00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:40,960
that you know i realized that

836
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:42,879
the possibility that we're not we're not

837
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:45,359
alone in the universe is very real and

838
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:48,639
so that changed my whole perspective on

839
00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:51,520
this and so at that point

840
00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:53,839
i started delving into

841
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:55,359
uh ufo

842
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:57,119
uh research

843
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:59,680
to see what other kind of things

844
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:01,440
had happened you know i started to learn

845
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:02,560
about

846
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:03,839
uh

847
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,520
you know all the different every book

848
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:07,599
that i could possibly pick up

849
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:10,160
i picked up and read all these countless

850
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:12,079
you know stories and counters things

851
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:13,200
like that

852
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:14,560
uh

853
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:16,960
and it just amazed me i realized that

854
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:19,040
you know i was the only one but you know

855
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:21,040
i had a witness with me we both saw this

856
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,359
we knew we weren't crazy

857
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,440
and so you know that was one of the

858
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,520
things that that started this whole

859
00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:29,440
thing for me

860
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:31,839
and so that was the first encounter that

861
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:32,960
i had

862
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:35,040
you know had a witness with me

863
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:38,240
uh studied ufos for

864
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:41,040
ever i mean i never lost my interest in

865
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:42,880
it i was always you know we need to know

866
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:44,880
somebody needs to know about this you

867
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:48,240
know we got to get this out in the open

868
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:49,440
so

869
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:52,960
after years and years and years you know

870
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:55,680
being ridiculed and not being you know

871
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:57,680
taken seriously on this

872
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:59,520
i basically had put it on the back

873
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:01,520
burners you know realizing okay i've

874
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:03,920
been fortunate enough to be witness to

875
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:04,960
this

876
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:08,160
the the the world is probably not ready

877
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:09,280
for this

878
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:10,079
what

879
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:14,160
you know who who is this

880
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:16,720
what are they doing and are they just

881
00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:19,760
observing us or or is is there contact

882
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:21,599
being made

883
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:24,079
this is the first the first thing that

884
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:26,160
happened to me and i would say back in

885
00:36:30,349 --> 00:36:27,680
1968

886
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:30,359
it wasn't until

887
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:32,320
2003

888
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:33,440
when

889
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:36,800
my wife and i had the second encounter

890
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:38,480
that

891
00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:42,560
i got a really good look at a ship

892
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,520
and

893
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:45,599
that

894
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,400
uh

895
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:48,160
reinforced

896
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:49,920
my

897
00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:52,480
belief that we were not alone

898
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:56,800
this thing shot out of the sky

899
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:58,960
came down like a shooting star stopped

900
00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:59,920
dead

901
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:02,400
uh lights came on

902
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:05,520
uh it moved towards us my wife and i saw

903
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:06,240
it

904
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:12,160
000 feet maybe from us in the air

905
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:14,000
and this thing was at least

906
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:16,800
we estimated after you know thinking

907
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:19,040
about it that it was probably somewhere

908
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:20,560
in the vicinity of

909
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:24,640
uh of a diamond-shaped craft that was uh

910
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:26,800
a hundred feet

911
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:30,800
uh are not 100 200 feet tall

912
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:33,050
and maybe 100 feet across

913
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:34,480
[Music]

914
00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:37,440
and it had it had red and white and

915
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:40,560
green lights on it and it also

916
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:42,800
when it had windows and there were

917
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:46,640
backlit from the inside and when

918
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,720
we you know i i was staring at the

919
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:50,640
windows saying okay am i going to see a

920
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:53,839
silhouette of a an individual a person

921
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:55,839
alien what am i going to see

922
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:58,079
and the one thing that i did notice was

923
00:38:02,829 --> 00:38:00,640
a structural support

924
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:02,839
much like you would see on a large

925
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:05,520
aircraft that beam that has holes cut

926
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:07,119
into it to

927
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:09,920
reduce the weight

928
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:12,480
and i also recounted

929
00:38:15,359 --> 00:38:17,750
when

930
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:21,030
i had to relive that episode again

931
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:23,440
for the series identified

932
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:25,520
and lou was with me

933
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:28,000
when we went back to the site to recount

934
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,400
the event

935
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:33,119
the thing that popped out there you know

936
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:34,720
popped into my head all of a sudden was

937
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:37,040
i remember looking at the windows there

938
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:38,960
was like two rows of windows and i

939
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:40,960
remembered looking at the

940
00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:44,960
uh indentation in the craft to indicate

941
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:47,119
that the walls were thick

942
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:49,280
and that was something that that just

943
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:52,480
you know you hear this all time from

944
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:54,720
law enforcement

945
00:38:58,790 --> 00:38:55,839
people who

946
00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:58,800
have the victims recount the the event

947
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:00,640
and they remember something else that

948
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:03,520
happened it's details that the the mind

949
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:05,040
hides at first

950
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:07,839
in 2005

951
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:11,280
i had my third

952
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:13,359
ufo encounter

953
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:16,240
or a phenomenon that i have no

954
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:21,270
it was about

955
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:23,359
6 30 in the morning

956
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:27,200
my son was living with me

957
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:29,119
and

958
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:31,920
we lived in mccluskey north dakota where

959
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:33,119
i still live

960
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:35,920
just a different house now

961
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:38,960
where we where we lived he had

962
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:41,680
taken a job with a contractor

963
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:43,760
and the contractor was coming to pick

964
00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:45,760
him up his boss was coming to pick him

965
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,839
up at about oh i don't know 6 30 in the

966
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:49,680
morning something like that he wanted to

967
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:51,359
go outside and have a cigarette before

968
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:52,880
his boss came

969
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:55,200
and it was warm out probably in june i'd

970
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:57,839
say july somewhere in there

971
00:40:02,150 --> 00:39:59,119
and

972
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:02,160
of coffee with you while you're having

973
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:03,440
your cigarette

974
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:06,400
so we went out and stood in the driveway

975
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:09,280
and i'm facing to the west he's facing

976
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:12,880
to the east and talking to me

977
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:14,880
and while we're standing there

978
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:17,680
i looked to the west

979
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:20,960
and saw what i thought was a

980
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:23,200
headlight from a tractor

981
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:24,400
out in the field

982
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:26,400
there were fields uh

983
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:27,920
to the north

984
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:30,640
across the highway highway 200 runs east

985
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:31,680
and west

986
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:35,200
and i'm facing west and off to the

987
00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:36,160
west

988
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:38,320
in the distance uh their fields out

989
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:39,200
there

990
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:41,920
and what i thought at first was a light

991
00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:43,760
from a tractor

992
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:46,320
uh and then it dawned on me that there

993
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,839
would be

994
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:49,520
really no

995
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:52,400
reason for them to be out at 6 30 in the

996
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:53,440
morning

997
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:55,520
doing something and that kind of you

998
00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:56,319
know

999
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:58,319
puzzled me but i figured okay maybe

1000
00:41:02,150 --> 00:41:00,160
they're out there doing something

1001
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:02,160
so i'm standing there talking to my son

1002
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:05,520
and as the light

1003
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:08,880
is moving towards us

1004
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:11,760
it's starting to get larger

1005
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:12,960
and

1006
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:15,040
when it comes into

1007
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:15,920
a

1008
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:25,200
[Music]

1009
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:26,960
approximately

1010
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:33,280
somewhere between 10 and 20 feet off the

1011
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:34,640
ground

1012
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:37,440
and it's just moving

1013
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:39,280
to the east

1014
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:42,000
cruising along like there's nothing

1015
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:45,280
nothing to it no sound whatsoever

1016
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:47,599
this thing is just

1017
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:49,440
cruising along

1018
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:52,079
and the best way i can describe the

1019
00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:53,760
the um

1020
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:55,119
vision of it

1021
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:58,560
is it's almost as if the moon

1022
00:42:01,910 --> 00:41:59,920
were on a full

1023
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:01,920
uh you know a full moon

1024
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:03,520
lit

1025
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:04,319
down

1026
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:08,160
10 15 feet off the uh the ground moving

1027
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:09,760
across the

1028
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:11,280
the sky here

1029
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:13,359
uh

1030
00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:14,800
it was

1031
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:16,640
the kind of thing that you look at you

1032
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,480
can't make any sense out of it because

1033
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:20,480
you don't know what it is

1034
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:23,440
it had the intensity of a moon uh

1035
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:26,079
but yet no sound this thing is just

1036
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:28,160
cruising along hovering you know above

1037
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:29,280
the ground

1038
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:31,599
not making a sound

1039
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:33,920
uh and when you see something like this

1040
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,520
your mind just

1041
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:37,599
goes berserk because you're you're

1042
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:39,280
paralyzed

1043
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:42,240
your mind is focused on trying to

1044
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:45,040
make sense out of it all your senses

1045
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:47,839
everything is focused on this to see if

1046
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:50,640
you can determine what it is and and you

1047
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:51,680
know

1048
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:54,000
based on your perception of

1049
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:54,880
life

1050
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:57,119
everything that you've ever seen before

1051
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,960
this is something that doesn't follow

1052
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:00,960
the rules of physics or

1053
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:03,040
anything that you know

1054
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:05,520
so your mind is just preoccupied with

1055
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:07,520
trying to figure it out

1056
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,359
i've been asked this many times you know

1057
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,200
why didn't you just jump in the squad

1058
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:13,280
car because i was sheriff at the time

1059
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:15,839
why didn't you just jump in a squad car

1060
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:18,480
and and chase it and the best thing i

1061
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:20,400
can say is

1062
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:21,920
you're you're dumbfounded you're

1063
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:25,680
paralyzed uh your your your mind is not

1064
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,680
thinking about going to chase it you're

1065
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:29,520
trying to figure out what it is you're

1066
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:31,920
just in awe

1067
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:34,480
so we watched as this thing

1068
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:37,040
came closer and closer and finally you

1069
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:38,560
know uh

1070
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:42,000
as we both faced it i made mention of it

1071
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,599
right away as soon as i realized it was

1072
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:45,359
a ball of light i told my son look at

1073
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:46,160
this

1074
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:47,920
you know and he turned around and he and

1075
00:43:52,829 --> 00:43:50,720
i both witnessed this travel

1076
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:52,839
right across from us maybe

1077
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:55,680
oh i don't know somewhere between 20 and

1078
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,640
30 miles an hour i guess if if it was

1079
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:00,960
even going that fast

1080
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:03,760
and if we watched it go right across

1081
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:07,200
the field and keep on going to the east

1082
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:09,760
and like i say you know to this day

1083
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:12,720
i have no explanation as to why i did

1084
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:14,800
not just jump in the squad car and chase

1085
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:17,440
after it i can't i don't have an

1086
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,240
explanation it just i was so dumbfounded

1087
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:22,480
looking at this thing and so amazed

1088
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:25,839
trying to figure out what it was

1089
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:28,400
and like i say it was the

1090
00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:31,359
intensity or the light

1091
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,359
that you would see if you were looking

1092
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:36,000
at the moon it was opaque it was white

1093
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:42,870
bright like the sun or it wasn't

1094
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:45,760
anything like that it was a pale white

1095
00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:47,920
luminous you know

1096
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:49,200
object

1097
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:52,640
so that was my third encounter and

1098
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:57,280
uh once again a witness with me and

1099
00:45:01,750 --> 00:45:00,720
i have no idea what it was

1100
00:45:02,829 --> 00:45:01,760
you know

1101
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:02,839
there had been

1102
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,000
uh stories of

1103
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,240
what they call a doll lightning i think

1104
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:10,319
it is and i

1105
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,640
had never seen anything like that before

1106
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:14,400
in my life

1107
00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:17,119
if it was ball lightning i

1108
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:18,640
can't imagine

1109
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:22,079
something being 10 15 foot in diameter

1110
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:25,040
cruising along in a direct line

1111
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:27,520
not wavering up and down

1112
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:30,720
it was on a solid path

1113
00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:33,520
it was it was almost as if it was being

1114
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:35,599
intelligently controlled

1115
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:38,800
uh to maintain that altitude or that

1116
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:41,200
height off the ground and the speed that

1117
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:43,760
it was it was a constant speed

1118
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:45,040
now

1119
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:47,119
i have never seen ball lightning before

1120
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:49,440
so i do not

1121
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:51,119
think that anything based on the

1122
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:53,359
accounts that i have read about

1123
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:55,920
uh believe that this was ball lightning

1124
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:57,040
by any

1125
00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:58,880
stretch of the imagination

1126
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:01,440
this had to be some sort of

1127
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:02,480
orb

1128
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:07,440
sort uh

1129
00:46:11,730 --> 00:46:10,079
being intelligently controlled moving

1130
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:11,740
along um

1131
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:13,119
[Music]

1132
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:16,319
you know at a fair pace

1133
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:19,680
so that is my third encounter and

1134
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:22,079
just like all the other two that we've

1135
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:24,160
had

1136
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:27,680
it it just mystifies me it boggles my

1137
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,240
mind is that what could possibly you

1138
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,160
know this was a controlled energy of

1139
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:34,400
some sort

1140
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:36,160
so

1141
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:39,520
that would be my end of that account

1142
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:41,680
error encounter

1143
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:43,200
you asked me to

1144
00:46:47,829 --> 00:46:46,240
describe how i feel the main word

1145
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:47,839
is frustrated

1146
00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:49,119
laughed at

1147
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:52,720
ridiculed not taken seriously

1148
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:55,040
i have had three

1149
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:56,560
encounters

1150
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,359
with

1151
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:59,520
another witness at

1152
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:01,680
each of these encounters so these are

1153
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:03,920
three separate encounters

1154
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:07,920
with three different witnesses

1155
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:10,560
together i mean there's

1156
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:11,599
i

1157
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:20,960
you know years apart

1158
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:25,680
when you have this happen to you you

1159
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:28,960
realize that something's wrong

1160
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,200
we are not being

1161
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:33,520
told the truth

1162
00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:36,720
and it's maybe for our own good i don't

1163
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:37,520
know

1164
00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:41,599
i joined mufon

1165
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:43,599
because i wanted to become a ufo

1166
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,200
investigator

1167
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:47,200
that didn't do anything

1168
00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:48,160
maybe

1169
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:53,359
the experience the the um exposure

1170
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:56,079
because of that

1171
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:58,480
you know i thought things were going to

1172
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,599
develop

1173
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:01,520
totally different i thought that you

1174
00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:02,720
know

1175
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:04,480
there would be camera crews i thought

1176
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:06,480
that there would be reporters i thought

1177
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:09,760
that this would become a main main event

1178
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:13,119
but it never did i mean not until lately

1179
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:16,960
you published my story or my event my

1180
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:18,880
counter in your book

1181
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:20,480
that helped a lot

1182
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:23,280
i was briefly featured in the tv show

1183
00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:25,440
unidentified

1184
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:27,680
i thought that was going to cause my

1185
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:29,920
phone to be ringing off the hook with

1186
00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:31,280
interviews

1187
00:48:34,549 --> 00:48:32,240
and

1188
00:48:37,589 --> 00:48:34,559
i don't know what happened

1189
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:37,599
nobody has contacted me

1190
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:41,040
so it makes me wonder why

1191
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:42,800
all these things

1192
00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:45,280
to expose the truth

1193
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:47,359
and 50 years later

1194
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:50,640
from my birth my first encounter

1195
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:52,720
and where are we

1196
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,359
just now beginning to see the partial

1197
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:57,599
disclosure happening

1198
00:49:03,030 --> 00:48:59,680
the best and brightest minds that

1199
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,040
mankind has to offer have most assuredly

1200
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:05,359
been assigned to this phenomena at the

1201
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,079
top

1202
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:08,160
highest level

1203
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:10,800
we will never probably know the story

1204
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:11,599
until

1205
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:14,160
everything is is brought out in the open

1206
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:17,520
i have to ask myself why keep this a

1207
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,040
secret

1208
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:21,760
the human race is not prepared

1209
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:25,200
to handle the technology that is one of

1210
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:27,599
the reasons that i can say

1211
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,480
you know

1212
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:30,880
would we destroy ourselves

1213
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:32,160
with this

1214
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:33,760
but i think about

1215
00:49:36,990 --> 00:49:35,920
all the positive things that could

1216
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:37,000
happen

1217
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:38,559
anti-gravity

1218
00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:40,079
propulsion

1219
00:49:44,550 --> 00:49:42,839
faster travel to and from around the

1220
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,560
planet the

1221
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:46,400
[Music]

1222
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:48,480
not having to rely on fossil fuels

1223
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:51,839
anymore to provide fuel for

1224
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:54,480
the daily vehicles that we need

1225
00:49:59,829 --> 00:49:56,720
the free energy

1226
00:50:03,109 --> 00:49:59,839
that could be given to hospitals that

1227
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:03,119
could be given to agencies

1228
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:05,200
if they didn't have to pay for these

1229
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:07,280
things then that

1230
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:10,480
cost could be removed from the

1231
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:12,480
end product

1232
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:14,640
everybody would benefit that's just my

1233
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:17,440
opinion on that we have been at this for

1234
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:20,400
what 70 years plus

1235
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:23,440
and how can we as the human species

1236
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:25,760
evolve to the point of not only

1237
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:28,640
disclosure but implementation

1238
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:30,960
of this technology and it could change

1239
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:32,880
the life to the better

1240
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,760
for all mankind but yet

1241
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:37,520
it's being suppressed

1242
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:40,240
what can we do as the human race to move

1243
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:42,400
forward and not be held back

1244
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:44,000
these questions are the ones that i

1245
00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:47,760
ponder every single day of my life

1246
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:50,240
it's frustrating it's frustrating to

1247
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:51,440
know

1248
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:53,520
that the solution

1249
00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:56,480
to a lot of the world's problems

1250
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:59,680
is right at our very fingertips

1251
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:01,440
and yet

1252
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:03,040
we're not

1253
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:04,800
using it

1254
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:08,079
or we're not being allowed to use it i

1255
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:10,160
should say that

1256
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:11,920
so that's how i feel

1257
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:14,400
i'm pretty frustrated

1258
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:15,520
i hope

1259
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:17,680
that before

1260
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:20,400
my time is up on this planet as a human

1261
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:22,000
being

1262
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,440
that

1263
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:25,440
all of this comes to light

1264
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:27,520
in a manner that

1265
00:51:37,580 --> 00:51:30,480
makes sense to everyone and that

1266
00:51:37,590 --> 00:51:42,470
[Music]

1267
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:44,069
this is bill

1268
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:46,480
i currently reside in central florida

1269
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:49,040
but at the time of this sighting

1270
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:52,400
i was living in my hometown in northern

1271
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,680
kentucky

1272
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:55,119
back in the

1273
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:57,040
early 80s

1274
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:00,240
early to mid 80s i would say

1275
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:04,400
myself my dad who has since passed and

1276
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:06,160
several of my friends were standing out

1277
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:08,720
in the front yard of my grandparents

1278
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:10,480
house

1279
00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:12,160
which at the time i was staying with my

1280
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:13,599
grandparents

1281
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:14,880
we were

1282
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:18,400
overlooking this uh pasture that

1283
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,640
butted up to the property that my

1284
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:22,800
grandparents had in the housing

1285
00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:25,520
development where they lived

1286
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:27,440
several of us were standing there and we

1287
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:28,720
looked over

1288
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:31,440
into the pasture which was

1289
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:34,000
part of a big ranch

1290
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:35,200
owned by

1291
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:38,000
a well-known family in

1292
00:52:41,589 --> 00:52:39,440
my hometown

1293
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:41,599
we looked and there was something

1294
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:43,520
floating

1295
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:45,599
across the pasture

1296
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:48,880
shining a light down on the pasture

1297
00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:51,440
and when we first saw it

1298
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:53,839
it had to be oh

1299
00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:56,880
probably a quarter mile away

1300
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:00,720
but then it continued to come towards us

1301
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:03,119
when it finally got the closest it was

1302
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:05,119
going to be

1303
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:07,280
it was approximately

1304
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:09,359
200 feet away

1305
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,960
about 150 feet in the air

1306
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:14,400
now i know you know something you're

1307
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:15,920
thinking

1308
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:17,599
it's hard to

1309
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:19,599
determine distance

1310
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:21,680
and size

1311
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:24,240
at that range or when something's up in

1312
00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:26,160
the air

1313
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:28,640
but to that i kind of add a another

1314
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:31,760
dimension to the identification process

1315
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:32,800
in that

1316
00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:35,200
it was shining a light down

1317
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:38,000
onto the pasture itself

1318
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:40,800
the pasture the the light itself the

1319
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:42,960
that was shining on the pasture was

1320
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,720
circular

1321
00:53:47,589 --> 00:53:46,559
once it hit the ground

1322
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:47,599
if

1323
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:48,960
the

1324
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:55,280
um or if it had been

1325
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:58,480
uh um you know shining a light down at

1326
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:01,359
an angle then of course it would not the

1327
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:03,119
light itself would not be circular it

1328
00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:04,960
would be more oblong

1329
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:06,880
and then of course the the greater the

1330
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:08,079
angle

1331
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:09,599
the

1332
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:17,920
about 200 feet away

1333
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:21,040
there was absolutely no noise whatsoever

1334
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:23,359
and if it had been a helicopter

1335
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,240
uh shining down the light

1336
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:28,319
we obviously were to heard it now of

1337
00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:30,160
course i unders i know that that that

1338
00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:31,520
people say that there are silent

1339
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,000
helicopters and things of that nature

1340
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:36,640
and i understand that but

1341
00:54:39,829 --> 00:54:38,480
this could not have been a helicopter

1342
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:39,839
because

1343
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:41,440
the lights from

1344
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:43,760
the the barn

1345
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:47,839
uh on the ranch kind of backlit

1346
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:50,160
behind the object itself

1347
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,599
and the object was approximately

1348
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:55,280
30 feet across

1349
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:57,200
it was

1350
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:59,280
flat on the bottom and the light was

1351
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:01,520
coming out of the bottom

1352
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:03,599
and it was somewhat dome-shaped on the

1353
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:05,440
top

1354
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:07,920
maybe a combination of dome shape

1355
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:09,040
slightly

1356
00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:12,160
triangular shaped or pyramid type shape

1357
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:14,480
across the top

1358
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:16,319
kind of hard to describe but that's the

1359
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:19,119
best way i can describe it is as

1360
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:22,640
a combination of the top part of a dome

1361
00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:26,400
with slight triangular features

1362
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:29,200
but it continued to shine the light down

1363
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,960
various places

1364
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:32,160
in

1365
00:55:36,790 --> 00:55:34,400
the pasture itself

1366
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:36,800
quite often there would be

1367
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:39,200
uh the the families heard of cows that

1368
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:41,520
would be out in this pasture using it as

1369
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:43,359
gray's land

1370
00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:44,319
but

1371
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:46,720
at this point i don't believe there were

1372
00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:50,400
any cows out there at the time

1373
00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:52,799
so i we were all looking at it we were

1374
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:54,720
talking in the front yard and then we

1375
00:55:58,390 --> 00:55:57,119
all noticed it about the same time

1376
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:58,400
and then we're all looking at each other

1377
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:01,520
like what the heck is this

1378
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:03,680
we really had no idea

1379
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:05,839
and as it got closer we're we're

1380
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:07,839
noticing again we all made the comment

1381
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:08,960
to each other

1382
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:11,599
that it was not making sound

1383
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:14,240
and it was getting closer

1384
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:16,559
so it stopped at about the 200 foot mark

1385
00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:19,280
about 150 feet in the air

1386
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:21,280
and still shining this light down on the

1387
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:22,640
pasture

1388
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:26,400
this whole sighting probably took a good

1389
00:56:28,829 --> 00:56:27,280
oh

1390
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:28,839
three to four

1391
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,680
minutes uh from the time that we saw it

1392
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:33,200
first shining the light down about a

1393
00:56:36,069 --> 00:56:34,799
quarter mile away

1394
00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:36,079
till it got

1395
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:39,520
to the closest that it actually was

1396
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:41,680
and then shortly thereafter it started

1397
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:43,760
heading off

1398
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:45,440
back towards

1399
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:47,680
the edge of the property

1400
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:49,440
of the ranch

1401
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:51,599
in the opposite direction of where we

1402
00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:52,960
were

1403
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:55,359
so eventually

1404
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:57,040
we're all standing there transfixed and

1405
00:57:02,549 --> 00:57:00,720
eventually it just ends up going over

1406
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:02,559
a hill

1407
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:05,040
continually shining this light down it

1408
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:06,880
eventually went over this hill and out

1409
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:08,079
of sight

1410
00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:10,240
after it's all said and done again all

1411
00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:12,799
of us are standing there going what the

1412
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:14,559
heck was that

1413
00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:15,920
now i have to understand in northern

1414
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:17,839
kentucky that's an area of the of the

1415
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:21,119
country where it's not unusual to have

1416
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:24,000
um sightings of unidentified

1417
00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:28,160
objects in the air it's almost

1418
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:30,000
it's not quite i'd say

1419
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:33,200
commonplace but it's enough to where

1420
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:34,480
folks

1421
00:57:41,589 --> 00:57:40,559
we get reports of ufos or unidentified

1422
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:41,599
objects

1423
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:43,359
things of that nature

1424
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:45,359
and it all just kind of you know we

1425
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:47,839
weren't shocked by it but we were all

1426
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:49,920
scratching our heads trying to figure

1427
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:51,839
out what it was

1428
00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:53,760
to this day

1429
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:55,359
i still

1430
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:57,040
have no idea what it was

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00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:59,440
[Music]

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00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:00,319
we

1433
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:02,720
looked you know being a

1434
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:04,480
a person who

1435
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:06,319
is interested in

1436
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:08,880
sightings of this nature

1437
00:58:14,069 --> 00:58:12,000
we all looked for potential

1438
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,079
articles in the

1439
00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:16,400
hometown newspaper of

1440
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:19,040
cattle mutilations things like that

1441
00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:20,559
after the sighting

1442
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:22,720
none of us saw anything so

1443
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:23,760
either

1444
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:25,599
there were none

1445
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:26,720
or

1446
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:29,520
it was kept hush hush

1447
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:32,079
that were uncertain of

1448
00:58:38,069 --> 00:58:34,799
but i do know what i saw

1449
00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:38,079
and everyone that was with me that day

1450
00:58:42,069 --> 00:58:40,160
unfortunately i can't ask my dad

1451
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:42,079
anything else about it since he's no

1452
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:44,480
longer with us

1453
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:47,119
but i have to say that while i wasn't

1454
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:50,799
afraid of what i saw at all it left me

1455
00:58:54,789 --> 00:58:53,040
with the sense of wonder like

1456
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:54,799
not every question

1457
00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:56,160
in the world

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00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:58,240
has been answered

1459
00:59:02,069 --> 00:59:00,160
and we still have things we need to know

1460
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:02,079
or that we need to find out or we need

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00:59:08,309 --> 00:59:06,480
to figure out and move on

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00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:08,319
thank you for listening

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00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:15,270
hi ryan this is elena thank you for

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00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:17,440
giving me this opportunity to share my

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00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:18,559
story

1466
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:22,319
on august 30 2014 i woke up went to the

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00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:25,119
kitchen had some orange juice finding

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00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:27,520
myself wide awake

1469
00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:30,000
i decided to check on my truck which was

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00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:31,599
parked next door

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00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:33,520
to our building

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00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:35,359
and i could do this

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00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:38,400
by viewing it from a west facing floor

1474
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:42,160
to ceiling window in our living room

1475
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:45,440
i had to lay on my tummy because the

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00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:47,599
shade was pulled down three quarters of

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00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:48,720
the way

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00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:49,920
and the

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00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:51,680
lever for pulling the shade was

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00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:53,680
inconveniently located

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00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:56,720
and also very squeaky when pulled and my

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01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:58,880
husband was sleeping just down the hall

1483
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:01,280
again this is san francisco so

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01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:04,000
and it's a small place i didn't want to

1485
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:06,079
wake him up

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01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:09,119
as i laid there

1487
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:12,720
checking on my truck everything was fine

1488
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:14,400
by the way the reason i was doing this

1489
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:16,559
is the gate was open

1490
01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:18,880
um stuck in the open position

1491
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:21,280
so we were constantly worried at night

1492
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:24,240
about the truck getting vandalized

1493
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:26,720
truck was fine

1494
01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:29,040
but i found myself feeling very peaceful

1495
01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:33,040
it was a super dark inky black night

1496
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:36,880
it was so quiet which is very unusual

1497
01:00:41,750 --> 01:00:37,920
nothing

1498
01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:41,760
going on except for one light

1499
01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:44,160
kitty corner to where i was positioned

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01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:46,559
in a dilapidated building

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01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:49,119
i thought it was so unusual that

1502
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:51,520
there were that there was one light on

1503
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:53,440
in this dilapidated building with

1504
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:55,359
nothing else going on that

1505
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:57,520
night or that morning

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01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,480
so i grabbed a set of binoculars from my

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01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:02,079
husband's sale bag

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01:01:07,589 --> 01:01:04,799
which was in the living room

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01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:07,599
and decided to investigate

1510
01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:09,520
i didn't see anything going on in that

1511
01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:11,119
building

1512
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:14,079
and yet i stayed still because

1513
01:01:17,190 --> 01:01:15,760
there was just something very peaceful

1514
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:17,200
about the morning

1515
01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:20,160
being wide awake in this dark morning

1516
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:23,520
i turned my gaze again to the left where

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01:01:25,589 --> 01:01:24,640
my truck

1518
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:25,599
was

1519
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:28,480
i looked up in the sky

1520
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:31,760
and there was a bright star

1521
01:01:35,430 --> 01:01:34,240
that started to fall

1522
01:01:36,829 --> 01:01:35,440
and

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01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:36,839
as it did

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01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:40,480
so it started to come toward me and this

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01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:43,440
part i have to read from my blog and

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01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:46,319
it will just help me

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01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:49,119
describe it best

1528
01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:50,000
so

1529
01:01:54,390 --> 01:01:52,000
as i saw the white lights rapidly

1530
01:01:56,950 --> 01:01:54,400
twirling downward on a diagonal

1531
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:56,960
trajectory in my direction i thought a

1532
01:02:02,710 --> 01:01:59,520
jet was falling out of control

1533
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:02,720
but quickly realized with certainty that

1534
01:02:07,270 --> 01:02:04,319
that wasn't the case because there

1535
01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:07,280
weren't any green or red lights

1536
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:08,880
though i was sure the lights were fixed

1537
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:12,000
to an object by their pattern rotation

1538
01:02:17,349 --> 01:02:14,640
which slowed as it neared closer

1539
01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:17,359
i soon saw that the object

1540
01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:19,520
was a giant black rectangle which had

1541
01:02:24,870 --> 01:02:22,319
been spinning like a top on its vortex

1542
01:02:26,789 --> 01:02:24,880
the spinning stopped and it glided into

1543
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:26,799
a position directly in front of me at my

1544
01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:28,799
window straight up and down

1545
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:31,200
long ways like a big black door

1546
01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:33,280
where it hovered above the ground

1547
01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:35,680
it had four round white lights one on

1548
01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:38,480
each corner and was completely stable in

1549
01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:40,079
its hovered state

1550
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:42,480
the lights did not emit a beam pulsate

1551
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:45,680
or blink the rectangle did not wobble i

1552
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:49,440
don't recall hearing any sounds at all

1553
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:51,200
i inspected the rectangle with my

1554
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:53,760
binoculars but there was nothing to see

1555
01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:55,440
on the surface

1556
01:03:00,150 --> 01:02:57,839
other than the four white lights

1557
01:03:02,710 --> 01:03:00,160
the binoculars fogged up so i put them

1558
01:03:05,109 --> 01:03:02,720
down and shortly thereafter

1559
01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:05,119
it slowly levitated

1560
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:07,839
turned on its side think flying carpet

1561
01:03:12,549 --> 01:03:08,960
style

1562
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:12,559
and floated off over the horizon

1563
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:15,280
i ran to my computer to make a post on

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01:03:20,230 --> 01:03:18,000
facebook and i'm so glad i did because

1565
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:20,240
it served as a reliable time stamp for

1566
01:03:24,069 --> 01:03:22,240
the duration of the episode

1567
01:03:26,549 --> 01:03:24,079
i know i was drinking orange juice in

1568
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:26,559
the kitchen at 4 00 am because i looked

1569
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:27,760
at the clock

1570
01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:30,000
rushing to post an update on facebook

1571
01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:31,760
hoping someone would look up and see the

1572
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:32,960
rectangle

1573
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:35,440
i know the entire timeline was about 15

1574
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:36,640
minutes

1575
01:03:41,829 --> 01:03:38,640
the next thing i did was google what do

1576
01:03:43,750 --> 01:03:41,839
you do when you see a ufo

1577
01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:43,760
at no time did i feel threatened or

1578
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:45,440
afraid

1579
01:03:48,630 --> 01:03:47,680
i felt peaceful in the quiet dark

1580
01:03:50,309 --> 01:03:48,640
morning

1581
01:03:53,029 --> 01:03:50,319
and during the incident during the

1582
01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:53,039
incident i was simply awestruck in a

1583
01:03:55,750 --> 01:03:54,720
state of wonderment over what was

1584
01:03:57,670 --> 01:03:55,760
occurring

1585
01:03:59,670 --> 01:03:57,680
on my mind were feelings of deep

1586
01:04:02,549 --> 01:03:59,680
curiosity and gratefulness to be

1587
01:04:04,789 --> 01:04:02,559
witnessing something so extraordinary

1588
01:04:06,309 --> 01:04:04,799
and unexplainable

1589
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:06,319
afterward

1590
01:04:10,309 --> 01:04:08,240
i felt invigorated

1591
01:04:12,870 --> 01:04:10,319
bewildered and determined to understand

1592
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:12,880
what i had seen i've relayed this

1593
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:15,599
encounter to numerous friends and family

1594
01:04:19,270 --> 01:04:17,200
and co-workers

1595
01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:19,280
and many wanted to know why i didn't

1596
01:04:23,910 --> 01:04:20,640
wake my husband

1597
01:04:25,910 --> 01:04:23,920
the truth is i didn't even think of it i

1598
01:04:27,670 --> 01:04:25,920
was completely in the moment and would

1599
01:04:28,630 --> 01:04:27,680
not have done anything to distract

1600
01:04:30,549 --> 01:04:28,640
myself

1601
01:04:32,549 --> 01:04:30,559
or put the sighting in jeopardy by

1602
01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:32,559
creating a commotion

1603
01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:34,799
but having had to explain this so many

1604
01:04:39,510 --> 01:04:37,039
times i promised myself that if there

1605
01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:39,520
were ever to be a next time i'd make it

1606
01:04:43,589 --> 01:04:42,240
a priority to record by camera or video

1607
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:43,599
[Music]

1608
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:47,680
in july 2015 i seized such a moment

1609
01:04:54,549 --> 01:04:50,880
i've been struggling to share those

1610
01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:54,559
details from the 2015 incident

1611
01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:57,200
but i do expect to do so

1612
01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:58,720
eventually

1613
01:05:03,190 --> 01:05:01,200
thank you so much

1614
01:05:05,589 --> 01:05:03,200
[Music]

1615
01:05:06,829 --> 01:05:05,599
hi ryan my name is oscar

1616
01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:06,839
i live in

1617
01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:10,000
colorado but the incident i'm about to

1618
01:05:16,710 --> 01:05:13,039
talk about takes place on the road

1619
01:05:19,589 --> 01:05:16,720
somewhere between arizona and california

1620
01:05:22,230 --> 01:05:19,599
me and my brother took a trip out there

1621
01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:22,240
to go see some friends and i think we

1622
01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:25,280
only went there for i think that one day

1623
01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:28,319
and we're driving back at night

1624
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:30,480
and the way the freeway is kind of set

1625
01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:32,799
up driving back from arizona to

1626
01:05:37,109 --> 01:05:34,640
california

1627
01:05:39,670 --> 01:05:37,119
is you have two lanes

1628
01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:39,680
on one side and then

1629
01:06:06,309 --> 01:05:40,960
a

1630
01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:06,319
this

1631
01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:08,160
really bright light

1632
01:06:10,789 --> 01:06:09,760
in the sky

1633
01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:10,799
and at first i thought it was a

1634
01:06:15,829 --> 01:06:12,960
helicopter but it started going

1635
01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:15,839
back and forth side to side

1636
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:18,400
and the light was still facing

1637
01:06:20,710 --> 01:06:19,920
like towards me

1638
01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:20,720
and

1639
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:22,480
i'm just paying attention to this light

1640
01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:23,280
and

1641
01:06:28,630 --> 01:06:27,119
telling him hey like look at this look

1642
01:06:30,230 --> 01:06:28,640
at this

1643
01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:30,240
just so i have somebody else to see it

1644
01:06:33,510 --> 01:06:31,520
with me

1645
01:06:35,109 --> 01:06:33,520
but he's not waking up he's just kind of

1646
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:35,119
like mumbling telling me to leave him

1647
01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:37,680
alone and i'm paying attention to this

1648
01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:40,880
light and out of nowhere

1649
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:43,680
a car driving the wrong way

1650
01:06:47,190 --> 01:06:45,760
is coming right towards me and have to

1651
01:06:48,789 --> 01:06:47,200
swerve

1652
01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:48,799
really hard to the right and luckily

1653
01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:50,640
there was no car

1654
01:06:55,589 --> 01:06:53,760
on the right the right lane next to me

1655
01:06:57,670 --> 01:06:55,599
and i swerved to get away and then

1656
01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:57,680
that's when my brother wakes up and he's

1657
01:07:00,789 --> 01:06:59,440
like are you okay are you all right were

1658
01:07:02,710 --> 01:07:00,799
you falling asleep and i was like no

1659
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:02,720
there was a there was a car

1660
01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:04,240
right in front of me

1661
01:07:07,270 --> 01:07:06,160
like he came out of nowhere and when i

1662
01:07:08,630 --> 01:07:07,280
turned around

1663
01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:08,640
to see

1664
01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:10,559
where this person was going

1665
01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:13,359
there was no car i saw no tail lights

1666
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:15,920
driving away in the distance

1667
01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:18,640
i saw other cars in the other

1668
01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:21,440
lane you know going the opposite way but

1669
01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:24,400
there was really nobody in

1670
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:26,880
on my side of the road and

1671
01:07:31,349 --> 01:07:29,440
i have no idea

1672
01:07:33,349 --> 01:07:31,359
where

1673
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:33,359
that car came from

1674
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:34,880
it just seemed like it came out of

1675
01:07:36,789 --> 01:07:35,920
nowhere

1676
01:07:39,270 --> 01:07:36,799
but

1677
01:07:41,829 --> 01:07:39,280
the light was no longer there in the sky

1678
01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:41,839
like immediately right after that so it

1679
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:43,280
just left me

1680
01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:45,920
really confused and wondering what i

1681
01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:47,520
just saw

1682
01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:50,799
and i still to this day i have no idea

1683
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:52,640
what it was

1684
01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:55,280
my brain likes to try to rationalize it

1685
01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:57,280
by thinking you saw a helicopter and

1686
01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:59,440
then somebody was driving the wrong way

1687
01:08:02,950 --> 01:08:01,119
on the side of the road

1688
01:08:04,789 --> 01:08:02,960
but it really felt like the two were

1689
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:04,799
connected

1690
01:08:07,190 --> 01:08:06,240
in some way

1691
01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:07,200
and

1692
01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:10,559
i'm just it sucks that my brother was

1693
01:08:15,270 --> 01:08:12,720
asleep and didn't see it

1694
01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:15,280
he just knows that i swerved to get out

1695
01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:16,560
of the way

1696
01:08:20,789 --> 01:08:18,719
but when i swerved i didn't see like a

1697
01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:20,799
car past me or anything like that and

1698
01:08:25,030 --> 01:08:22,560
like i said when i looked back there was

1699
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:25,040
no car driving away

1700
01:08:31,269 --> 01:08:27,520
so i have no idea what it was

1701
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:31,279
i know that i couldn't tell for 100 sure

1702
01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:32,400
that the light in the sky was a

1703
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:33,759
helicopter

1704
01:08:38,229 --> 01:08:36,480
and i couldn't tell that it was actually

1705
01:08:39,990 --> 01:08:38,239
a car driving straight towards me i just

1706
01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:40,000
saw a bright light right in front of me

1707
01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:41,920
and i had to swerve

1708
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:44,480
right after seeing the light in the sky

1709
01:08:48,709 --> 01:08:45,440
and

1710
01:08:51,189 --> 01:08:48,719
yeah there's still like i i just don't i

1711
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:51,199
don't know what it was it was just

1712
01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:52,799
extremely

1713
01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:54,560
bizarre

1714
01:08:59,430 --> 01:08:57,120
and weird

1715
01:09:01,590 --> 01:08:59,440
but yeah that's my

1716
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:01,600
short little incident

1717
01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:04,480
experience whatever you want to call it

1718
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:07,199
i know there's not really a lot to it

1719
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:08,960
but thank you for taking the time to

1720
01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:11,920
listen i really enjoy the podcast

1721
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:16,950
hello

1722
01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:18,480
okay

1723
01:09:21,749 --> 01:09:20,319
this is going to be kind of difficult

1724
01:09:23,990 --> 01:09:21,759
for me to do

1725
01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:24,000
um because i have to try to recall

1726
01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:25,600
things

1727
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:28,319
um there are pieces missing from my

1728
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:29,600
memory

1729
01:09:33,189 --> 01:09:30,960
but there are little things here and

1730
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:33,199
there that i remember

1731
01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:34,719
i'll tell a quick story i'll make it

1732
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:37,040
short when i was about nine years old

1733
01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:39,359
my family and i were living overseas in

1734
01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:41,600
a place called american samoa it's in

1735
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:43,440
the south pacific

1736
01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:45,040
me

1737
01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:46,880
of course you know this little blonde

1738
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,400
haired blue eyed girl

1739
01:09:52,709 --> 01:09:50,719
um they call them palonges

1740
01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:52,719
so they call us white people palonges

1741
01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:54,400
it's kind of like how the hawaiians call

1742
01:09:59,590 --> 01:09:56,719
us howly's or

1743
01:10:02,390 --> 01:09:59,600
mexicans call we call me a

1744
01:10:04,149 --> 01:10:02,400
gringa you know male gringo anyway

1745
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:04,159
and my friend amada

1746
01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:05,760
she had

1747
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:08,000
red hair she was you know a ginger

1748
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:09,360
carrot top

1749
01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:12,000
and she had um really

1750
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:13,360
like

1751
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:15,679
hazel colored eyes and her little

1752
01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:17,440
brother chemo

1753
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:20,480
who had um brown hair and blue eyes she

1754
01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:23,120
also had a sister named josie who looked

1755
01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:26,080
a lot like me she had um blonde hair and

1756
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:27,440
blue eyes

1757
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:29,520
they they all three of them had the same

1758
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:31,280
mom the same dad but they all looked

1759
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:32,800
like completely different from each

1760
01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:33,679
other

1761
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:36,239
okay anyway my point is

1762
01:10:41,350 --> 01:10:38,640
is we were at the playground in this

1763
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:41,360
neighborhood and it was probably about i

1764
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:43,280
don't know close to seven o'clock at

1765
01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:46,719
night and i had to be home by 7 30. so

1766
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:49,120
we were the only ones there

1767
01:10:52,709 --> 01:10:51,600
all the kids had gone inside we were

1768
01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:52,719
just kind of

1769
01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:55,600
sitting out there um

1770
01:10:58,870 --> 01:10:57,280
we weren't sitting on like a swing or

1771
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:58,880
anything like that there was like this

1772
01:11:02,070 --> 01:11:00,800
pipe like thing that came up out of the

1773
01:11:02,950 --> 01:11:02,080
ground

1774
01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:02,960
and

1775
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:05,440
was shaped kind of like

1776
01:11:07,270 --> 01:11:06,480
well like

1777
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:07,280
this

1778
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:09,520
you know it and we were and it was

1779
01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:10,480
yellow

1780
01:11:14,390 --> 01:11:12,320
and we were playing on that you know

1781
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:14,400
like sitting on it climbing on it and we

1782
01:11:17,590 --> 01:11:16,080
were just talking about

1783
01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:17,600
i don't even know what we were talking

1784
01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:19,920
about we were little kids when all of a

1785
01:11:23,990 --> 01:11:21,280
sudden

1786
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:24,000
i saw this red

1787
01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:25,040
dot

1788
01:11:31,030 --> 01:11:28,080
it wasn't a light it wasn't shiny it was

1789
01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:31,040
almost like like a balloon would look

1790
01:11:33,189 --> 01:11:32,000
just

1791
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:33,199
but

1792
01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:34,800
very very red

1793
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:36,960
um and it was just

1794
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:40,480
in the sky and it looked pretty far away

1795
01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:43,760
and there was an airport there there was

1796
01:11:46,630 --> 01:11:45,040
the faa

1797
01:11:48,630 --> 01:11:46,640
was

1798
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:48,640
very close to this neighborhood

1799
01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:51,120
so i see this red dot in the sky

1800
01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:52,640
and i didn't really think anything of it

1801
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:54,239
i just thought oh there's a balloon up

1802
01:11:57,189 --> 01:11:55,920
there and i pointed it out to a modern

1803
01:11:59,270 --> 01:11:57,199
chemo and they both looked at it and

1804
01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:59,280
were like yeah we forgot about it went

1805
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:01,360
back to talking and playing

1806
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:03,920
all of a sudden i noticed that this red

1807
01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:05,120
dot

1808
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,800
had grown

1809
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:08,960
it gotten closer

1810
01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:11,440
and it was just hovering there

1811
01:12:15,910 --> 01:12:14,000
like a giant balloon

1812
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:15,920
in the sky

1813
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:19,040
it was weird it wasn't

1814
01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:22,400
moving the way a balloon should move it

1815
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:25,040
wasn't stationed in the sky the way that

1816
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:26,880
you would expect a balloon to be and

1817
01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:28,800
this is on a tropical island there's

1818
01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:31,760
wind this thing was not blowing around

1819
01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:32,960
it

1820
01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:39,520
own thing

1821
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:41,360
so

1822
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:43,360
we thought that was odd but again being

1823
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:45,520
small kids we didn't really think too

1824
01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:46,800
much of it

1825
01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:48,960
although i kept looking at it i just

1826
01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:50,480
thought

1827
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:52,159
why does this thing keep getting closer

1828
01:13:00,310 --> 01:12:57,910
this went on for a good 15 minutes and

1829
01:13:02,950 --> 01:13:00,320
then i realized oh gosh you know

1830
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:02,960
7 30 i got to get home

1831
01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:07,199
it was a good 10 or 15 minute walk home

1832
01:13:11,669 --> 01:13:09,760
um ahmad and kimo lived in on the same

1833
01:13:13,270 --> 01:13:11,679
side of the neighborhood as me

1834
01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:13,280
so we decided we were going to start

1835
01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:15,120
walking home

1836
01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:17,679
we start walking and

1837
01:13:24,070 --> 01:13:21,040
oh how do i explain this it was like

1838
01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:24,080
almost like a heaviness in the air

1839
01:13:28,709 --> 01:13:28,000
we felt this thing i know i did

1840
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:28,719
so

1841
01:13:33,189 --> 01:13:30,640
i turned around

1842
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:33,199
and this red

1843
01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:34,719
dot

1844
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:36,880
was literally

1845
01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:39,600
hovering right over us

1846
01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:42,000
right over us and at this point you

1847
01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:45,440
could see that it was a round

1848
01:13:50,390 --> 01:13:48,480
three-dimensional circle

1849
01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:50,400
if solid

1850
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:52,560
of course it had

1851
01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:54,000
i don't even know how to explain this

1852
01:13:56,310 --> 01:13:55,199
thing it was the weirdest thing i've

1853
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:56,320
ever seen

1854
01:14:00,229 --> 01:13:57,840
but it was red

1855
01:14:03,510 --> 01:14:00,239
it it it wasn't like i said it wasn't a

1856
01:14:05,990 --> 01:14:03,520
light it wasn't shiny there was no noise

1857
01:14:08,709 --> 01:14:06,000
it was completely quiet

1858
01:14:09,669 --> 01:14:08,719
i do remember like not hearing any birds

1859
01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:09,679
or

1860
01:14:14,630 --> 01:14:13,199
cars going by we heard absolutely

1861
01:14:16,630 --> 01:14:14,640
dead silence

1862
01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:16,640
when we saw this thing

1863
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:18,640
it scared us so bad

1864
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:20,719
we started to run i mean that was our

1865
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:22,800
first instinct run

1866
01:14:25,830 --> 01:14:24,080
so we did

1867
01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:25,840
chemo fell

1868
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:28,320
um scraped his knees all up his hands

1869
01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:30,880
actually i fell too and skinned my hands

1870
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:32,080
a little bit

1871
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:34,560
i don't remember amata falling but

1872
01:14:41,350 --> 01:14:37,280
anyway we got back up and we just we

1873
01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:41,360
hauled excuse my french ass we hauled us

1874
01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:42,880
we ran all the way down to where like

1875
01:14:47,990 --> 01:14:45,440
there was another park and tennis courts

1876
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:48,000
um we had to turn right at the end of

1877
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:49,600
that street where the tennis court was

1878
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:52,080
to go home well to get to our street

1879
01:14:55,590 --> 01:14:53,920
which was also right it was like a right

1880
01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:55,600
and then a right i'm only pointing these

1881
01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:57,760
things out because i want you to realize

1882
01:15:01,590 --> 01:14:59,920
i even remember which way i had to turn

1883
01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:01,600
i remember the tennis courts i remember

1884
01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:03,440
everything

1885
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:05,440
by the time we got there of course as

1886
01:15:09,110 --> 01:15:07,040
kids what do we do

1887
01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:09,120
we run up to our friends we start

1888
01:15:13,510 --> 01:15:11,600
telling everybody what we saw

1889
01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:13,520
they laughed at us they thought it was

1890
01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:15,600
funny

1891
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:17,840
i was completely changed by this

1892
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:20,000
experience

1893
01:15:23,669 --> 01:15:22,080
and so was amada and chemo

1894
01:15:25,750 --> 01:15:23,679
when i got home

1895
01:15:27,990 --> 01:15:25,760
the first person i wanted to tell was my

1896
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:28,000
dad because my dad

1897
01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:29,840
very spiritual man

1898
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:31,440
he believes

1899
01:15:36,790 --> 01:15:33,920
you know he believed in you know ghosts

1900
01:15:38,709 --> 01:15:36,800
and god and he believed in aliens after

1901
01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:38,719
being signed other planets

1902
01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:41,760
i was raised in a strict mormon home

1903
01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:44,960
and mormons believe in essence that god

1904
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:47,280
is an alien you know he lives on a

1905
01:15:52,149 --> 01:15:49,280
planet you know it is that's what

1906
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:52,159
mormons believe i mean in a nutshell

1907
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:53,199
they believe

1908
01:15:58,790 --> 01:15:56,880
it's deeper than that but yeah so anyway

1909
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:58,800
i tell i decided to tell my father

1910
01:16:03,030 --> 01:16:01,280
because i just knew he was going to

1911
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:03,040
believe me

1912
01:16:08,310 --> 01:16:05,440
well what does my dad say

1913
01:16:10,709 --> 01:16:08,320
did it land and superman get out my

1914
01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:10,719
brothers laughed about it my mom they

1915
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:12,159
were like it's nothing don't worry about

1916
01:16:16,870 --> 01:16:14,320
it the faa is right there is probably

1917
01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:16,880
some kind of airplane thingamajigger i

1918
01:16:20,950 --> 01:16:18,320
don't know

1919
01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:20,960
so they just blew it off as nothing and

1920
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:22,560
of course i

1921
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:25,360
ended up going the rest of my life never

1922
01:16:30,149 --> 01:16:27,520
forgetting that experience knowing

1923
01:16:32,470 --> 01:16:30,159
exactly

1924
01:16:35,669 --> 01:16:32,480
what i saw well i mean i don't know what

1925
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:35,679
i saw but i knew and i know that i saw

1926
01:16:40,229 --> 01:16:37,600
this thing

1927
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:40,239
i don't know did i see a ufo did i see a

1928
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:42,880
giant weather balloon that could

1929
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:45,199
move in a way that i've never seen

1930
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:47,440
anything like that on this planet move

1931
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:48,719
like that

1932
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:52,320
it could move at a rate of speed like

1933
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:54,000
so quickly

1934
01:16:56,950 --> 01:16:55,440
that

1935
01:16:59,850 --> 01:16:56,960
it was almost like it would disappear

1936
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:59,860
and reappear it was so strange

1937
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:01,280
[Music]

1938
01:17:05,030 --> 01:17:03,440
hey everybody it's rick here and uh just

1939
01:17:07,270 --> 01:17:05,040
wanted to share this little story that

1940
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:07,280
uh happened uh while my wife and i were

1941
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:09,280
on vacation uh my wife and i were

1942
01:17:12,790 --> 01:17:10,960
actually down in gatlinburg tennessee in

1943
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:12,800
the smoky mountains for our five-year

1944
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:15,199
wedding anniversary so let me preface

1945
01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:16,960
this all let me just start off by saying

1946
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:19,280
that my wife and i do not drink or do

1947
01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:22,400
drugs i was not high when this happened

1948
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:24,159
i don't drink at all i'm completely

1949
01:17:28,630 --> 01:17:27,040
straight edge uh so i was not drunk at

1950
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:28,640
the time my wife

1951
01:17:32,790 --> 01:17:30,880
uh she has drinks every once in a while

1952
01:17:34,470 --> 01:17:32,800
but not you know she just takes sips of

1953
01:17:37,669 --> 01:17:34,480
wine um i don't even think i've ever

1954
01:17:38,630 --> 01:17:37,679
seen her finish a full glass of wine but

1955
01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:38,640
we had

1956
01:17:42,390 --> 01:17:40,480
nothing to drink nothing to smoke we

1957
01:17:45,910 --> 01:17:42,400
were on nothing i hadn't even had a

1958
01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:45,920
candy bar that day um so we get to

1959
01:17:50,790 --> 01:17:48,000
gatlinburg tennessee and check in with

1960
01:17:52,149 --> 01:17:50,800
our cabin place at around 6 pm

1961
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:52,159
ish

1962
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:54,480
it takes us about a half hour to find

1963
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:55,840
our cabin we ended up in somebody's

1964
01:17:59,110 --> 01:17:58,000
driveway i kept calling the guy cooter

1965
01:18:01,430 --> 01:17:59,120
because he just sat on the back of his

1966
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:01,440
truck and stared at us uh and gave us no

1967
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:02,719
indication that we were actually

1968
01:18:06,630 --> 01:18:05,040
probably about to be murdered uh by him

1969
01:18:08,709 --> 01:18:06,640
and his entire inbred family but that's

1970
01:18:11,910 --> 01:18:08,719
neither here nor there um

1971
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:11,920
so i'd say around 6 30ish we found our

1972
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:12,880
cabin

1973
01:18:21,510 --> 01:18:18,800
forget the name of it now but it was

1974
01:18:23,270 --> 01:18:21,520
beautiful on a private road overlooking

1975
01:18:24,790 --> 01:18:23,280
the smokies which

1976
01:18:26,229 --> 01:18:24,800
thank you for asking our vacation kind

1977
01:18:27,510 --> 01:18:26,239
of sucked because it rained the entire

1978
01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:27,520
time

1979
01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:29,440
it blew and we couldn't see anything

1980
01:18:33,270 --> 01:18:31,600
because smokies have

1981
01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:33,280
their name for a reason they have their

1982
01:18:37,189 --> 01:18:35,120
reputation and we couldn't see anything

1983
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:37,199
off in the distance and then of course

1984
01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:38,560
here we are a week afterwards and it's

1985
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:40,320
beautiful and sunny but that's neither

1986
01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:41,600
here nor there

1987
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:43,840
um so around

1988
01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:46,560
seven o'clock i'd say seven seven thirty

1989
01:18:52,149 --> 01:18:48,960
we got everything settled into the house

1990
01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:52,159
everything unpacked everything put away

1991
01:18:55,430 --> 01:18:53,520
i would even say it was eight o'clock at

1992
01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:55,440
night and we just kind of chilling

1993
01:18:57,669 --> 01:18:56,640
around the cabin

1994
01:18:59,990 --> 01:18:57,679
so

1995
01:19:01,110 --> 01:19:00,000
we decided that we were gonna stock up

1996
01:19:02,229 --> 01:19:01,120
on groceries because it's gonna be

1997
01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:02,239
raining all night we're not gonna be

1998
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:03,600
wanting to walk around downtown and

1999
01:19:06,630 --> 01:19:05,280
checking out all the foods and whatnot

2000
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:06,640
down in gatlinburg

2001
01:19:12,709 --> 01:19:09,360
um so we decided to go to what was

2002
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:12,719
formerly food lion is now food city uh

2003
01:19:16,870 --> 01:19:14,560
which is actually i think it's

2004
01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:16,880
considered in sevierville or pigeon

2005
01:19:21,030 --> 01:19:19,360
forge area so it's it's a distance away

2006
01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:21,040
it's about a half hour away 45 minutes

2007
01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:23,199
from where our cabin was

2008
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:25,600
it took a while to get there

2009
01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:26,480
so

2010
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:27,600
we

2011
01:19:31,590 --> 01:19:29,760
begin the long trek out there

2012
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:31,600
we pick up our groceries

2013
01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:34,080
and on our way there we actually have to

2014
01:19:38,470 --> 01:19:35,920
go through the smoky mountains national

2015
01:19:41,030 --> 01:19:38,480
reserve where the the smokey mountain

2016
01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:41,040
smoky mountains park and

2017
01:19:43,270 --> 01:19:42,080
now

2018
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:43,280
they're

2019
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:44,880
at this point because it was so late

2020
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:47,199
after we showered and settled in and i

2021
01:19:50,149 --> 01:19:48,640
think we might have even had a little

2022
01:19:51,350 --> 01:19:50,159
bit of food left in the car that we

2023
01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:51,360
decided to heat up and eat it was

2024
01:19:56,229 --> 01:19:53,440
mexican from the previous night

2025
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:56,239
um i'd say it was closer to about 11 11

2026
01:19:58,870 --> 01:19:57,520
30

2027
01:20:01,270 --> 01:19:58,880
yeah probably about 11 because i think

2028
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:01,280
food lion closed at midnight food city

2029
01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:03,360
closed at midnight

2030
01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:06,239
uh we decided to you know be those

2031
01:20:11,189 --> 01:20:08,080
that go into a store with an

2032
01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:11,199
hour to close and shop anyway

2033
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:12,320
so

2034
01:20:16,709 --> 01:20:14,880
we're driving through again

2035
01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:16,719
smoky mountains park

2036
01:20:21,189 --> 01:20:19,600
pitch black there's no light and

2037
01:20:22,470 --> 01:20:21,199
because i drank like a grandpa i was

2038
01:20:23,830 --> 01:20:22,480
probably the last in line there was

2039
01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:23,840
absolutely nobody behind us and there

2040
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:25,440
was about four or five cars in front of

2041
01:20:28,870 --> 01:20:27,360
us it wasn't very busy because like i

2042
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:28,880
said it was late at night

2043
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:30,000
and

2044
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:31,360
we uh

2045
01:20:35,110 --> 01:20:33,120
we're driving along

2046
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:35,120
kind of minding my own business and out

2047
01:20:40,390 --> 01:20:38,320
of my peripheral i see lights now

2048
01:20:41,910 --> 01:20:40,400
there's nothing out of the ordinary when

2049
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:41,920
you're down in gatlinburg tennessee or

2050
01:20:46,229 --> 01:20:44,400
in smoky mountains to see lights through

2051
01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:46,239
the trees because there are lodges and

2052
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:48,400
cabins and stuff that are up in in the

2053
01:20:51,669 --> 01:20:49,360
mountains

2054
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:51,679
um however we were actually

2055
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:52,560
in

2056
01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:55,440
and

2057
01:21:01,590 --> 01:20:59,120
they they weren't lights coming from

2058
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:01,600
a cabin it was

2059
01:21:05,030 --> 01:21:03,040
blue lights

2060
01:21:06,310 --> 01:21:05,040
and here's the other thing

2061
01:21:07,110 --> 01:21:06,320
it was

2062
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:07,120
no

2063
01:21:12,709 --> 01:21:08,880
when you're in the national park the

2064
01:21:13,750 --> 01:21:12,719
trees go 50 to 100 feet in the air you

2065
01:21:15,750 --> 01:21:13,760
know they're going up the side of a

2066
01:21:18,229 --> 01:21:15,760
mountain so these trees were about 100

2067
01:21:21,189 --> 01:21:18,239
feet in the air 500 feet in the air and

2068
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:21,199
the lights were above the tree line and

2069
01:21:25,830 --> 01:21:23,280
i'm talking like directly above the tree

2070
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:25,840
line and they were blue

2071
01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:29,280
with some orangish reddish

2072
01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:30,320
on them

2073
01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:31,440
and

2074
01:21:35,430 --> 01:21:33,280
at first i thought maybe it was an

2075
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:35,440
airplane tower

2076
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:37,120
quickly squashed that because we went

2077
01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:39,120
through that area about two or three

2078
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:41,679
more times and those lights were not in

2079
01:21:45,270 --> 01:21:43,199
that location

2080
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:45,280
not a cabin because there were blue and

2081
01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:47,120
red lights and it was above the tree

2082
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:48,000
line

2083
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:49,679
not a helicopter

2084
01:21:53,189 --> 01:21:50,960
because

2085
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:53,199
it was 11 11 30 at night why would they

2086
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:54,800
be doing helicopter tours that late at

2087
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:57,040
night and hovering in one location this

2088
01:22:01,189 --> 01:21:58,800
thing was stationary

2089
01:22:02,229 --> 01:22:01,199
um and also

2090
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:02,239
not

2091
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:04,080
a drone i thought maybe it was like a

2092
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:06,480
handheld drone for a second um problem

2093
01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:10,400
being is because in my eyesight i saw it

2094
01:22:13,270 --> 01:22:12,080
through the the the

2095
01:22:14,310 --> 01:22:13,280
uh

2096
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:14,320
through the window through the

2097
01:22:17,189 --> 01:22:15,360
windshield

2098
01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:17,199
and it was

2099
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:19,199
probably about this big in my eyesight

2100
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:21,120
which means if we're judging that it's

2101
01:22:26,149 --> 01:22:23,760
about 50 to 100 feet away

2102
01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:26,159
up a tree in front of the tree lines i

2103
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:27,600
would say that this thing was about 20

2104
01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:30,080
to 30 feet long it was

2105
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:31,600
pretty damn big

2106
01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:34,080
and when i saw it

2107
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:35,600
i said

2108
01:22:39,510 --> 01:22:37,679
very loudly

2109
01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:39,520
what the f is that

2110
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:41,679
which i think is a reasonable response i

2111
01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:44,480
didn't censor myself then like i did now

2112
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:47,360
but i screamed what the f is that

2113
01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:48,880
and

2114
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:50,800
my wife

2115
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:52,400
actually happened to be staring at it

2116
01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:54,239
herself and didn't say anything

2117
01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:55,600
and says

2118
01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:57,600
i have no flippin idea

2119
01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:00,000
also she did not censor herself

2120
01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:02,320
i i just censored herself

2121
01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:05,280
we were on a bend so we're coming around

2122
01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:07,199
the bend and my wife immediately whips

2123
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:09,280
around to try and get a better look at

2124
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:12,880
it it wasn't there it was gone

2125
01:23:17,430 --> 01:23:15,840
completely it was in a triangular shape

2126
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:17,440
it actually looked like it would be the

2127
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:20,159
underside of a helicopter that that's

2128
01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:22,080
pretty much what it looked like it

2129
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:23,440
looked like it would be the underside of

2130
01:23:28,149 --> 01:23:26,400
a helicopter except it

2131
01:23:30,310 --> 01:23:28,159
wasn't a helicopter and i believe we had

2132
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:30,320
our windows down and i didn't hear the

2133
01:23:34,629 --> 01:23:32,320
helicopter um and you would think it

2134
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:34,639
would also be blowing the trees down

2135
01:23:38,470 --> 01:23:37,440
with how close it was to the tree line

2136
01:23:40,709 --> 01:23:38,480
that's the only thing i could figure

2137
01:23:42,070 --> 01:23:40,719
that would be stationary other than uh

2138
01:23:44,629 --> 01:23:42,080
you know somebody's handheld drone but

2139
01:23:47,350 --> 01:23:44,639
again why would you be out at 11 30 at

2140
01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:47,360
night in the actual smoky mountain park

2141
01:23:52,950 --> 01:23:50,239
and who has a drone that that is that

2142
01:23:54,390 --> 01:23:52,960
big anyway it wasn't an airplane it

2143
01:23:56,950 --> 01:23:54,400
wasn't an airplane because it was

2144
01:23:58,790 --> 01:23:56,960
stationary it did not move while we were

2145
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:58,800
looking at it and we got a good

2146
01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:00,639
10 to 15 second look at it because like

2147
01:24:04,870 --> 01:24:02,560
i said i drive like a grandfather

2148
01:24:06,790 --> 01:24:04,880
but yeah it was

2149
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:06,800
right above the tree line

2150
01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:09,679
gigantic and again my wife can vouch for

2151
01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:12,800
me i wasn't on anything she saw it she

2152
01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:14,480
wasn't on anything

2153
01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:17,040
and uh again we went through there a

2154
01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:19,120
couple more times not that night because

2155
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:20,880
we had to get to food city and lord

2156
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:22,400
knows food is more important than ufo

2157
01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:23,520
discoveries

2158
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:25,280
but we went through their that exact

2159
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:27,360
same area a couple more times and it was

2160
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:31,360
not there at all and i also saw a an

2161
01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:33,600
actual plane tower somewhere else

2162
01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:35,600
located in in the park

2163
01:24:41,110 --> 01:24:39,120
and it had flashing red lights this was

2164
01:24:42,550 --> 01:24:41,120
they weren't blinking at all they were

2165
01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:42,560
just blue

2166
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:44,960
lights in the shape of a triangle a long

2167
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:46,320
triangle

2168
01:24:52,709 --> 01:24:48,960
uh with some orangish red mixed in it

2169
01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:52,719
was a crazy sight she saw it i saw it in

2170
01:24:56,229 --> 01:24:54,560
the middle of the smoky mountains i

2171
01:24:58,070 --> 01:24:56,239
didn't lose any amount of time so i

2172
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:58,080
wasn't abducted or anything like that

2173
01:25:02,229 --> 01:25:00,719
and i also looked on the news to see if

2174
01:25:04,070 --> 01:25:02,239
maybe it was a search helicopter maybe

2175
01:25:06,950 --> 01:25:04,080
somebody got lost but why would a search

2176
01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:06,960
helicopter be so close to the road

2177
01:25:10,830 --> 01:25:09,520
i mean we were on the main stretch going

2178
01:25:13,030 --> 01:25:10,840
through smoky

2179
01:25:14,709 --> 01:25:13,040
mountains i have no explanation what it

2180
01:25:16,629 --> 01:25:14,719
is i'm not gonna say it was an alien but

2181
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:16,639
i will say that it was a ufo because i

2182
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:23,590
hey ryan it's kyle from oregon uh just

2183
01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:25,520
submit a story for your

2184
01:25:28,870 --> 01:25:27,280
fitness encounters

2185
01:25:30,550 --> 01:25:28,880
you know this happened to me when i was

2186
01:25:34,870 --> 01:25:30,560
in fourth grade

2187
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:34,880
i'm 31 now so pick it has been a while

2188
01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:35,840
but i

2189
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:36,880
you know this is the first time i'm

2190
01:25:41,669 --> 01:25:39,280
sharing this story so i'm a little

2191
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:41,679
apprehensive but i thought you'd be the

2192
01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:43,840
guy to tell the story to you

2193
01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:44,719
so

2194
01:25:48,070 --> 01:25:46,080
when i was

2195
01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:48,080
in the fourth grade my older brother was

2196
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:51,360
in middle school and his school started

2197
01:25:55,990 --> 01:25:53,360
about an hour before

2198
01:25:57,669 --> 01:25:56,000
minded so my mom

2199
01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:57,679
would drop him off

2200
01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:59,199
and then we'd go sit in the parking lot

2201
01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:00,960
until school started

2202
01:26:05,350 --> 01:26:04,239
and she know she'd read me books or

2203
01:26:07,030 --> 01:26:05,360
most of it

2204
01:26:09,430 --> 01:26:07,040
i was i was a sucker for the animal

2205
01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:09,440
respect then so she would read

2206
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:11,760
read me the animorphs and i'd you know

2207
01:26:15,350 --> 01:26:13,920
be in in the fourth grade i'd take a nap

2208
01:26:17,669 --> 01:26:15,360
because i

2209
01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:17,679
hated mornings and i still do

2210
01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:20,800
but hey that's besides the point um

2211
01:26:25,189 --> 01:26:23,120
on this particular day it had to have

2212
01:26:27,669 --> 01:26:25,199
been later in the year because i

2213
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:27,679
remember not wearing

2214
01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:29,920
a jacket or anything

2215
01:26:34,709 --> 01:26:32,080
it had to have been around

2216
01:26:35,430 --> 01:26:34,719
may or april or so

2217
01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:35,440
but

2218
01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:37,840
we get out of school and

2219
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:39,840
i have the epiphany that

2220
01:26:45,270 --> 01:26:42,719
holy crap i can have

2221
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:45,280
this entire playground to myself

2222
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:48,320
for the next 45 minutes to an hour

2223
01:26:54,550 --> 01:26:50,800
and that being the holy grail

2224
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:54,560
of all children i was like mother please

2225
01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:57,440
let me go play until school starts

2226
01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:03,350
so i went to the playground and

2227
01:27:07,110 --> 01:27:05,040
started doing what i was doing and it

2228
01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:07,120
was probably tetherball because

2229
01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:08,880
i was a sucker for tetherball back in

2230
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:10,800
the day

2231
01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:13,360
so i'm doing my thing

2232
01:27:16,830 --> 01:27:15,120
and i don't know what prompted me but i

2233
01:27:20,390 --> 01:27:16,840
looked up

2234
01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:20,400
and there was this rectangular object in

2235
01:27:26,709 --> 01:27:23,760
the sky very low uh it was

2236
01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:26,719
very low i can't express that enough uh

2237
01:27:30,550 --> 01:27:28,800
it was just above the school maybe about

2238
01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:30,560
50 feet or so

2239
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:33,120
above the real vine

2240
01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:34,480
and

2241
01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:38,639
in the center

2242
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:41,120
of that u it was a little courtyard it

2243
01:27:44,830 --> 01:27:43,760
was grass that had to have been

2244
01:27:47,350 --> 01:27:44,840
i don't know

2245
01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:47,360
uh 100

2246
01:27:50,550 --> 01:27:48,639
feet deep

2247
01:27:52,629 --> 01:27:50,560
from looking

2248
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:52,639
at the edge of the concrete

2249
01:27:58,870 --> 01:27:55,120
through the grass the building and

2250
01:28:00,790 --> 01:27:58,880
maybe 50 or 60 feet side by side

2251
01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:00,800
and while this thing that was flying

2252
01:28:04,629 --> 01:28:02,960
over the school

2253
01:28:05,590 --> 01:28:04,639
was

2254
01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:05,600
probably

2255
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:07,600
taken up about three quarters of that

2256
01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:09,440
courtyard

2257
01:28:14,550 --> 01:28:12,719
like i said it was a while ago so

2258
01:28:17,189 --> 01:28:14,560
judgment on size isn't that great but i

2259
01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:17,199
remember with being big

2260
01:28:21,669 --> 01:28:19,120
not and it was

2261
01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:21,679
moving very slowly

2262
01:28:25,830 --> 01:28:23,360
like it was good enough that i could you

2263
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:25,840
know get a good look at it and i know

2264
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:28,080
that just being having happened a long

2265
01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:29,840
time ago

2266
01:28:34,790 --> 01:28:33,600
that human memory is very fickle but

2267
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:34,800
i i

2268
01:28:39,990 --> 01:28:36,960
i can promise you that this memory is as

2269
01:28:42,310 --> 01:28:40,000
precious as they have happened

2270
01:28:44,470 --> 01:28:42,320
and while i'm watching this thing i can

2271
01:28:47,910 --> 01:28:44,480
still remember it had like

2272
01:28:50,149 --> 01:28:47,920
grace or slaps going all the way

2273
01:28:51,350 --> 01:28:50,159
from the back bottom

2274
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:51,360
to the top

2275
01:28:54,930 --> 01:28:53,760
i don't remember seeing the sides or the

2276
01:28:56,950 --> 01:28:54,940
bottom

2277
01:28:58,629 --> 01:28:56,960
[Music]

2278
01:29:00,629 --> 01:28:58,639
well i did see a little bit of the sides

2279
01:29:03,990 --> 01:29:00,639
and i remember they had

2280
01:29:07,030 --> 01:29:04,000
it had lines going the

2281
01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:07,040
looked like solid structure going

2282
01:29:11,510 --> 01:29:09,760
along the sides front to back

2283
01:29:15,510 --> 01:29:11,520
every

2284
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:15,520
i don't know 20 20 feet or so they were

2285
01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:16,960
spaced out and they're only like four or

2286
01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:19,040
five of them but

2287
01:29:24,790 --> 01:29:22,000
i remember as i'm watching this thing

2288
01:29:25,990 --> 01:29:24,800
i have never heard the world be so quiet

2289
01:29:29,669 --> 01:29:26,000
before

2290
01:29:30,870 --> 01:29:29,679
no birds no winds no motor noise

2291
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:30,880
not a say

2292
01:29:33,910 --> 01:29:32,880
i i don't know if it was just because i

2293
01:29:39,830 --> 01:29:33,920
was

2294
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:39,840
staring at or if maybe that part of my

2295
01:29:44,390 --> 01:29:42,159
memory is just kind of

2296
01:29:45,990 --> 01:29:44,400
you know it being the mundane part of

2297
01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:46,000
this event

2298
01:29:50,550 --> 01:29:49,120
my memory just kind of dropped off but

2299
01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:50,560
i i can

2300
01:29:54,550 --> 01:29:52,320
i can attest to this though that that

2301
01:29:55,750 --> 01:29:54,560
thing makes not a sound

2302
01:29:58,070 --> 01:29:55,760
it

2303
01:30:00,470 --> 01:29:58,080
still blows me away to just say i have

2304
01:30:02,390 --> 01:30:00,480
no idea what it was

2305
01:30:03,910 --> 01:30:02,400
i can't say for certain

2306
01:30:05,430 --> 01:30:03,920
what it was

2307
01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:05,440
but i can tell you for certain what it

2308
01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:06,480
wasn't

2309
01:30:14,149 --> 01:30:12,480
you know mercury and retrograde it

2310
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:14,159
wasn't

2311
01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:18,320
anything that i can

2312
01:30:28,550 --> 01:30:23,189
it

2313
01:30:31,189 --> 01:30:28,560
was just a thing in the world

2314
01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:31,199
but now that i think about it

2315
01:30:36,310 --> 01:30:33,840
it was almost killing how quiet

2316
01:30:38,629 --> 01:30:36,320
everything was but i i remember watching

2317
01:30:42,149 --> 01:30:38,639
this thing for

2318
01:30:44,950 --> 01:30:42,159
got a good couple of minutes at least

2319
01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:44,960
as i passed over the school

2320
01:30:49,750 --> 01:30:47,520
and once once it got over the school i

2321
01:30:51,990 --> 01:30:49,760
couldn't see it anymore so

2322
01:30:54,629 --> 01:30:52,000
in all of my infinite wisdom

2323
01:30:56,470 --> 01:30:54,639
right across from that courtyard

2324
01:30:58,149 --> 01:30:56,480
across the pavement was a swing set and

2325
01:31:00,470 --> 01:30:58,159
i was like i'm going to swing

2326
01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:00,480
to the top of this as high as i can see

2327
01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:03,679
if i can see over the school and see it

2328
01:31:11,189 --> 01:31:05,760
and i swung as hard as my little baby

2329
01:31:18,229 --> 01:31:14,070
as far as dude i don't know

2330
01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:18,239
i don't know i honestly don't it was

2331
01:31:23,430 --> 01:31:20,800
fascinating and terrifying at the same

2332
01:31:25,990 --> 01:31:23,440
time i like i

2333
01:31:28,870 --> 01:31:26,000
i'll never never lose that image for as

2334
01:31:31,669 --> 01:31:28,880
long as i drop breath it was

2335
01:31:33,030 --> 01:31:31,679
amazing it kickstarted my lifelong love

2336
01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:33,040
of ufos

2337
01:31:36,629 --> 01:31:34,960
they will be ufo subjects

2338
01:31:37,430 --> 01:31:36,639
so i guess yeah they're kind of the same

2339
01:31:41,430 --> 01:31:37,440
thing

2340
01:31:42,950 --> 01:31:41,440
but uh yeah man i really

2341
01:31:46,149 --> 01:31:42,960
i don't know how it made me feel

2342
01:31:48,070 --> 01:31:46,159
honestly like now

2343
01:32:00,709 --> 01:31:48,080
it

2344
01:32:03,669 --> 01:32:00,719
there's nothing

2345
01:32:05,830 --> 01:32:03,679
nothing flying that we have now or then

2346
01:32:07,270 --> 01:32:05,840
that looked like that it had no wings no

2347
01:32:09,189 --> 01:32:07,280
tail

2348
01:32:10,550 --> 01:32:09,199
it was just

2349
01:32:12,550 --> 01:32:10,560
amazing

2350
01:32:15,110 --> 01:32:12,560
and it's

2351
01:32:17,350 --> 01:32:15,120
gonna stick with me like i said until i

2352
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:17,360
draw my last breath i will see that

2353
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:19,410
thing in my head every time i hear

2354
01:32:22,470 --> 01:32:20,800
[Music]

2355
01:32:25,350 --> 01:32:22,480
a story

2356
01:32:26,709 --> 01:32:25,360
and it immediately like brings me back

2357
01:32:30,310 --> 01:32:26,719
to that day

2358
01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:30,320
of watching this gunmetal gray

2359
01:32:34,070 --> 01:32:32,320
object float

2360
01:32:37,030 --> 01:32:34,080
so silently and effortlessly

2361
01:32:39,430 --> 01:32:37,040
effortlessly above my school

2362
01:32:41,750 --> 01:32:39,440
like i can

2363
01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:41,760
like i'm sorry this is just like

2364
01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:44,080
now turning into me rambling but i'm

2365
01:32:47,430 --> 01:32:45,600
struggling to find the words because

2366
01:32:49,430 --> 01:32:47,440
i've like i said i've never shared this

2367
01:32:51,350 --> 01:32:49,440
story before so i don't know

2368
01:32:54,149 --> 01:32:51,360
i don't know what else to say other than

2369
01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:54,159
my mind is still

2370
01:32:58,790 --> 01:32:57,920
unrepairably blown like i have no idea

2371
01:33:00,790 --> 01:32:58,800
dude

2372
01:33:02,470 --> 01:33:00,800
anyways i'm gonna wrap this rambling up

2373
01:33:04,310 --> 01:33:02,480
sorry for

2374
01:33:06,390 --> 01:33:04,320
saying words that don't make coherent

2375
01:33:08,870 --> 01:33:06,400
sentences sometimes but

2376
01:33:11,030 --> 01:33:08,880
i freaking love the show

2377
01:33:13,350 --> 01:33:11,040
the ufo subject kind of dropped off my

2378
01:33:15,189 --> 01:33:13,360
radar for a little bit

2379
01:33:17,750 --> 01:33:15,199
and somewhere in the skies has

2380
01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:17,760
definitely rekindled my my fascination

2381
01:33:21,350 --> 01:33:19,679
and love for the subject so thank you

2382
01:33:23,990 --> 01:33:21,360
again for that

2383
01:33:25,430 --> 01:33:24,000
and i will be listening as long as

2384
01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:25,440
you're making a show

2385
01:33:28,709 --> 01:33:27,120
hey man thanks for thanks for taking the

2386
01:33:30,390 --> 01:33:28,719
time and hearing me out

2387
01:33:41,189 --> 01:33:30,400
i really appreciate you have a good one

2388
01:33:45,669 --> 01:33:44,070
hey ryan my name is brandon and i

2389
01:33:46,709 --> 01:33:45,679
thought it would take this opportunity

2390
01:33:52,310 --> 01:33:46,719
to

2391
01:33:55,110 --> 01:33:52,320
two sightings that i've had in my life

2392
01:33:58,390 --> 01:33:55,120
i don't share these with just

2393
01:34:01,430 --> 01:33:58,400
anybody and everybody typically

2394
01:34:04,550 --> 01:34:01,440
the first event happened back in 2003

2395
01:34:07,030 --> 01:34:04,560
and i've shared that with maybe a dozen

2396
01:34:10,629 --> 01:34:07,040
people since then

2397
01:34:12,390 --> 01:34:10,639
people that i trust and i know

2398
01:34:14,229 --> 01:34:12,400
believe me

2399
01:34:15,350 --> 01:34:14,239
and trust what i say

2400
01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:15,360
and so

2401
01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:18,400
anyways i just got inspired listening to

2402
01:34:23,030 --> 01:34:19,280
um

2403
01:34:26,390 --> 01:34:23,040
others share their encounters and

2404
01:34:28,709 --> 01:34:26,400
i thought i would um do the same so like

2405
01:34:31,189 --> 01:34:28,719
i said the first of the two sightings

2406
01:34:32,550 --> 01:34:31,199
that i've had happened back in 2003 in

2407
01:34:36,229 --> 01:34:32,560
the summer

2408
01:34:38,870 --> 01:34:36,239
i was in northern neck part of virginia

2409
01:34:40,790 --> 01:34:38,880
towards the coast

2410
01:34:43,830 --> 01:34:40,800
and it's a very

2411
01:34:47,510 --> 01:34:43,840
agricultural rural area

2412
01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:47,520
a lot of woodland out there too

2413
01:34:50,229 --> 01:34:49,199
my friend jen and i

2414
01:34:51,830 --> 01:34:50,239
had been

2415
01:34:53,590 --> 01:34:51,840
out there visiting a friend a mutual

2416
01:34:56,070 --> 01:34:53,600
friend and we were

2417
01:34:57,830 --> 01:34:56,080
on our way back to her parents house in

2418
01:34:59,350 --> 01:34:57,840
southern maryland where we were staying

2419
01:35:01,189 --> 01:34:59,360
for the night

2420
01:35:05,270 --> 01:35:01,199
and we were driving along at two lane

2421
01:35:08,310 --> 01:35:05,280
roads um it was a very dark night

2422
01:35:12,390 --> 01:35:08,320
i emphasized that because

2423
01:35:15,510 --> 01:35:12,400
it made the encounter that we had

2424
01:35:16,709 --> 01:35:15,520
quite a bit more intense i believe

2425
01:35:19,189 --> 01:35:16,719
because

2426
01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:19,199
uh it was like a black canvas out that

2427
01:35:22,070 --> 01:35:20,880
night there weren't any street lights

2428
01:35:25,510 --> 01:35:22,080
around

2429
01:35:26,870 --> 01:35:25,520
there was just thick woods on both sides

2430
01:35:28,310 --> 01:35:26,880
of this two lane road that we were

2431
01:35:29,350 --> 01:35:28,320
driving along and it was kind of a

2432
01:35:31,030 --> 01:35:29,360
straight

2433
01:35:33,270 --> 01:35:31,040
narrow road

2434
01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:33,280
and so

2435
01:35:38,629 --> 01:35:35,440
we're riding along and i'm in the

2436
01:35:41,590 --> 01:35:38,639
passenger seat i looked down

2437
01:35:42,950 --> 01:35:41,600
to pick out a cd out of a cd book that

2438
01:35:45,189 --> 01:35:42,960
she had

2439
01:35:48,229 --> 01:35:45,199
this was you know pre

2440
01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:48,239
digital music era and

2441
01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:51,600
i'm looking at her cds and

2442
01:35:54,709 --> 01:35:53,440
as i'm doing so

2443
01:36:08,229 --> 01:35:54,719
i

2444
01:36:11,270 --> 01:36:08,239
but

2445
01:36:13,350 --> 01:36:11,280
i remember so vividly every

2446
01:36:15,669 --> 01:36:13,360
millisecond of it

2447
01:36:18,950 --> 01:36:15,679
that when i play it out my head it feels

2448
01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:18,960
much longer than that but

2449
01:36:23,510 --> 01:36:20,880
you know this blue light fills the car i

2450
01:36:24,629 --> 01:36:23,520
look up and to the left above the tree

2451
01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:24,639
line

2452
01:36:30,629 --> 01:36:28,000
um i see this bright

2453
01:36:32,629 --> 01:36:30,639
brilliantly bright blue light

2454
01:36:35,430 --> 01:36:32,639
that's kind of oblong shaped kind of

2455
01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:35,440
shaped like a football the color was

2456
01:36:39,430 --> 01:36:36,400
like a

2457
01:36:41,669 --> 01:36:39,440
little bit lighter of a royal blue color

2458
01:36:43,030 --> 01:36:41,679
it was all that same color and it was

2459
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:43,040
glowing

2460
01:36:48,229 --> 01:36:45,520
um intensely bright

2461
01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:48,239
and so in my head

2462
01:36:53,590 --> 01:36:50,560
if it had just been me

2463
01:36:55,189 --> 01:36:53,600
i might have questioned myself um i will

2464
01:36:57,750 --> 01:36:55,199
point out neither of us

2465
01:37:00,070 --> 01:36:57,760
were intoxicated in any way no drugs no

2466
01:37:01,350 --> 01:37:00,080
alcohol that night we were so brisk to

2467
01:37:04,070 --> 01:37:01,360
be

2468
01:37:05,590 --> 01:37:04,080
both of us and

2469
01:37:07,669 --> 01:37:05,600
i might have questioned even though i

2470
01:37:09,669 --> 01:37:07,679
was sober that i was

2471
01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:09,679
my eyes are playing tricks on me or

2472
01:37:13,750 --> 01:37:11,440
something like that but

2473
01:37:14,950 --> 01:37:13,760
the second that it clicks in my head

2474
01:37:16,070 --> 01:37:14,960
like i'm thinking in my head what is

2475
01:37:17,109 --> 01:37:16,080
this

2476
01:37:18,790 --> 01:37:17,119
jen

2477
01:37:21,750 --> 01:37:18,800
says that exact thing out loud she's

2478
01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:21,760
like what is that and

2479
01:37:26,229 --> 01:37:23,840
that made the hair stand up on my arms

2480
01:37:28,550 --> 01:37:26,239
because to me that added so much

2481
01:37:30,629 --> 01:37:28,560
validity in that moment she's seeing it

2482
01:37:32,229 --> 01:37:30,639
too

2483
01:37:34,550 --> 01:37:32,239
so

2484
01:37:37,910 --> 01:37:34,560
almost immediately like a second or two

2485
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:37,920
after that after she says that out loud

2486
01:37:42,950 --> 01:37:40,800
it went from this stationary position in

2487
01:37:44,870 --> 01:37:42,960
the sky and i'll point out i had nothing

2488
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:44,880
to compare it to in the sky because the

2489
01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:48,080
sky was so dark out

2490
01:37:51,270 --> 01:37:50,080
i couldn't tell

2491
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:51,280
if it was

2492
01:37:58,629 --> 01:37:56,320
and larger there was no sense of scale

2493
01:38:02,390 --> 01:37:58,639
to apply

2494
01:38:05,590 --> 01:38:02,400
but it went from completely stationary

2495
01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:05,600
to just basically gone and like

2496
01:38:10,229 --> 01:38:08,080
the snap of a finger and

2497
01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:10,239
i know that it didn't just vanish or

2498
01:38:13,669 --> 01:38:12,560
turn its lights off or something that it

2499
01:38:14,950 --> 01:38:13,679
actually

2500
01:38:16,950 --> 01:38:14,960
quickly

2501
01:38:19,350 --> 01:38:16,960
jetted away because

2502
01:38:20,870 --> 01:38:19,360
again it was so dark out and this object

2503
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:20,880
was so bright

2504
01:38:27,109 --> 01:38:23,760
that my eyes were able to pick up just a

2505
01:38:29,510 --> 01:38:27,119
split second of a trail i saw this blue

2506
01:38:31,350 --> 01:38:29,520
streak

2507
01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:31,360
take off which was

2508
01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:33,440
pretty much parallel with the road we

2509
01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:35,920
were traveling on it just shot

2510
01:38:41,189 --> 01:38:38,159
straight ahead of in the same direction

2511
01:38:43,510 --> 01:38:41,199
we were going at lightning speed i can't

2512
01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:43,520
even begin to fathom how fast

2513
01:38:46,070 --> 01:38:44,480
but

2514
01:38:48,149 --> 01:38:46,080
if it hadn't been for that trail that my

2515
01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:48,159
eye picked up for just a split second to

2516
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:49,440
attest to that

2517
01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:50,639
i wouldn't have had any clue what

2518
01:38:54,709 --> 01:38:52,000
happened to it

2519
01:38:57,030 --> 01:38:54,719
um now i can't

2520
01:38:59,910 --> 01:38:57,040
speak to if it made any sound or not we

2521
01:39:02,229 --> 01:38:59,920
did not have the windows down

2522
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:02,239
we were listening to music so i can't

2523
01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:04,480
speak to that portion of it

2524
01:39:08,229 --> 01:39:06,639
but what i did witness

2525
01:39:11,189 --> 01:39:08,239
both of us

2526
01:39:14,070 --> 01:39:11,199
we could not explain jen got very shook

2527
01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:14,080
up by it she was physically shaking

2528
01:39:16,629 --> 01:39:15,119
and

2529
01:39:18,229 --> 01:39:16,639
for our safety

2530
01:39:20,550 --> 01:39:18,239
i encouraged her to pull over and let me

2531
01:39:22,629 --> 01:39:20,560
drive the rest of the way home and so we

2532
01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:22,639
did that we traded seats

2533
01:39:26,470 --> 01:39:25,280
uh once we got back in the car jen had

2534
01:39:29,669 --> 01:39:26,480
the idea

2535
01:39:31,590 --> 01:39:29,679
she said let's not talk about it for now

2536
01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:31,600
let's wait till we get back to my

2537
01:39:35,350 --> 01:39:32,880
parents house

2538
01:39:37,830 --> 01:39:35,360
and i'll get some colored pencils

2539
01:39:39,189 --> 01:39:37,840
and some paper and we'll draw out what

2540
01:39:42,229 --> 01:39:39,199
we saw

2541
01:39:44,950 --> 01:39:42,239
and compare the two and see if we

2542
01:39:47,830 --> 01:39:44,960
think we saw the same thing

2543
01:39:49,910 --> 01:39:47,840
so we did that we said maybe five words

2544
01:39:51,189 --> 01:39:49,920
the rest of the ride home and then we

2545
01:39:54,629 --> 01:39:51,199
got back to her parents house in

2546
01:39:57,189 --> 01:39:56,149
she went first she said at the kitchen

2547
01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:57,199
table

2548
01:40:01,669 --> 01:39:58,560
and

2549
01:40:02,870 --> 01:40:01,679
drew hers out i sat in the living room

2550
01:40:04,550 --> 01:40:02,880
and

2551
01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:04,560
tried to distract myself

2552
01:40:08,149 --> 01:40:05,840
and calm myself down by watching a

2553
01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:08,159
couple minutes of tv

2554
01:40:11,510 --> 01:40:10,000
once she was done we traded out and i

2555
01:40:15,430 --> 01:40:11,520
did the same thing

2556
01:40:17,109 --> 01:40:15,440
and then we compared the two and we drew

2557
01:40:21,030 --> 01:40:17,119
the exact same thing the exact same

2558
01:40:23,270 --> 01:40:21,040
shape we used the same color for it

2559
01:40:25,590 --> 01:40:23,280
we drew it in the same position above

2560
01:40:28,550 --> 01:40:25,600
the tree line to our left

2561
01:40:30,629 --> 01:40:28,560
it was a mirror copy basically of one

2562
01:40:32,950 --> 01:40:30,639
another and

2563
01:40:35,350 --> 01:40:32,960
we felt like that added another layer of

2564
01:40:37,430 --> 01:40:35,360
validity to the fact that

2565
01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:37,440
it was something tangible it was

2566
01:40:41,990 --> 01:40:39,600
something that was truly there in the

2567
01:40:43,510 --> 01:40:42,000
sky in that moment and it looked and

2568
01:40:45,910 --> 01:40:43,520
behaved like

2569
01:40:48,550 --> 01:40:45,920
nothing we had seen before

2570
01:40:51,669 --> 01:40:48,560
so after that i had always kind of since

2571
01:40:53,750 --> 01:40:51,679
i was younger been a believer i i always

2572
01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:53,760
kind of understood the fact that you

2573
01:40:57,510 --> 01:40:55,920
know this universe is

2574
01:41:00,629 --> 01:40:57,520
infinite and

2575
01:41:02,950 --> 01:41:00,639
who are we to say there is not

2576
01:41:05,590 --> 01:41:02,960
an abundant amount of life

2577
01:41:08,390 --> 01:41:05,600
out there whether it be in our own

2578
01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:08,400
um reality our own universe whether it's

2579
01:41:12,149 --> 01:41:09,679
coming from

2580
01:41:14,390 --> 01:41:12,159
some sort of other dimension you know i

2581
01:41:16,390 --> 01:41:14,400
i have no clue but

2582
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:16,400
i know that the possibility for it to

2583
01:41:20,709 --> 01:41:19,040
come from elsewhere in this universe

2584
01:41:22,070 --> 01:41:20,719
the fact that

2585
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:22,080
life

2586
01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:23,679
certainly exists elsewhere in the

2587
01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:25,920
universe

2588
01:41:31,750 --> 01:41:28,239
i went into that experience

2589
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:31,760
already believing it's fairly likely

2590
01:41:37,030 --> 01:41:35,760
but seeing that really added to that it

2591
01:41:39,990 --> 01:41:37,040
it it

2592
01:41:42,550 --> 01:41:40,000
really reinforced the idea that

2593
01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:42,560
the things that people claim to see

2594
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:43,920
they're probably

2595
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:45,199
you know a lot of them are probably

2596
01:41:47,750 --> 01:41:46,480
telling the truth of course a bunch of

2597
01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:47,760
them were probably

2598
01:41:52,310 --> 01:41:50,080
making it up and wanting attention but

2599
01:41:55,750 --> 01:41:52,320
you know i experienced it too i became

2600
01:41:58,070 --> 01:41:55,760
one of those people and so

2601
01:42:00,390 --> 01:41:58,080
that was my first sighting the

2602
01:42:02,709 --> 01:42:00,400
second sighting happened 16 years later

2603
01:42:05,669 --> 01:42:02,719
it was actually early fall

2604
01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:05,679
2019 just last year

2605
01:42:08,629 --> 01:42:06,880
and i

2606
01:42:11,109 --> 01:42:08,639
stopped at a gas station

2607
01:42:14,629 --> 01:42:11,119
in roanoke virginia where i live

2608
01:42:16,070 --> 01:42:14,639
and ran in the gas station real quick i

2609
01:42:17,510 --> 01:42:16,080
came back out

2610
01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:17,520
and

2611
01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:19,600
it was a beautiful

2612
01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:21,360
day blue skies

2613
01:42:25,189 --> 01:42:23,280
no clouds

2614
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:25,199
it was about 5 15

2615
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:26,880
in the afternoon

2616
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:29,119
um so

2617
01:42:33,669 --> 01:42:31,360
it was too early for

2618
01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:33,679
stars to be plentiful in the sky

2619
01:42:37,270 --> 01:42:35,440
anything like that

2620
01:42:39,669 --> 01:42:37,280
but i happened to look up and i was

2621
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:39,679
looking around the beautiful blue sky

2622
01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:42,000
and i looked to my right of where i was

2623
01:42:46,709 --> 01:42:43,840
standing and i kind of turned

2624
01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:46,719
and i saw this round

2625
01:42:52,310 --> 01:42:49,600
solid white object in the sky

2626
01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,320
and it was literally the only thing in

2627
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:54,400
the sky it was the only thing on this

2628
01:42:57,990 --> 01:42:55,440
blue

2629
01:43:00,470 --> 01:42:58,000
um canvas of a sky

2630
01:43:01,910 --> 01:43:00,480
that i saw and so i thought that's

2631
01:43:04,470 --> 01:43:01,920
interesting and i'm thinking to myself

2632
01:43:07,109 --> 01:43:04,480
like what could that be could that my

2633
01:43:08,149 --> 01:43:07,119
first thought was maybe it was a plane

2634
01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:08,159
or

2635
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:12,800
made no noise in a similar circumstance

2636
01:43:17,669 --> 01:43:15,360
to the first encounter

2637
01:43:19,350 --> 01:43:17,679
there was no sense of scale to apply it

2638
01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:19,360
was just a

2639
01:43:23,590 --> 01:43:21,440
blue sky with nothing else

2640
01:43:26,390 --> 01:43:23,600
around it

2641
01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:26,400
so i thought well if it's a plane

2642
01:43:29,430 --> 01:43:28,000
then i'll stand here and watch it from

2643
01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:29,440
the same perspective for a couple of

2644
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:33,040
minutes and if it gets larger or smaller

2645
01:43:37,030 --> 01:43:34,800
then i can assume it's a plane either

2646
01:43:39,590 --> 01:43:37,040
coming my direction or going away but i

2647
01:43:42,149 --> 01:43:39,600
knew it wasn't traveling left or right

2648
01:43:44,229 --> 01:43:42,159
it did not sway in that position for a

2649
01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:44,239
minute so i'm watching to see if i

2650
01:43:49,430 --> 01:43:46,800
do see a change in size

2651
01:43:52,390 --> 01:43:49,440
and then after a couple of minutes

2652
01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:52,400
it starts erratically moving

2653
01:43:57,189 --> 01:43:55,280
around the sky and at varying speeds it

2654
01:43:59,510 --> 01:43:57,199
went left right

2655
01:44:02,149 --> 01:43:59,520
up down diagonal

2656
01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:02,159
at slower speeds at very quick speeds

2657
01:44:06,709 --> 01:44:03,920
where it's like it just

2658
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:06,719
like portal jumped to a different part

2659
01:44:14,310 --> 01:44:11,590
and i was by myself in that moment

2660
01:44:15,750 --> 01:44:14,320
watching it and just flabbergasted

2661
01:44:17,030 --> 01:44:15,760
trying to figure out what is that and

2662
01:44:19,030 --> 01:44:17,040
it's not making

2663
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:19,040
any sounds

2664
01:44:23,109 --> 01:44:20,800
as quite as can be

2665
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:23,119
and then i noticed that there's about a

2666
01:44:27,910 --> 01:44:25,920
dozen other people in the parking lot

2667
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:27,920
looking up at the same thing and while

2668
01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:30,880
it's bouncing around the sky and

2669
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:32,159
you know we're all just standing there

2670
01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:33,199
kind of

2671
01:44:36,950 --> 01:44:35,280
you know bum-fuzzled by what we're

2672
01:44:38,390 --> 01:44:36,960
seeing and we all end up kind of

2673
01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:38,400
congregating together in the middle of

2674
01:44:41,830 --> 01:44:40,239
the parking lot and watching it together

2675
01:44:43,430 --> 01:44:41,840
for probably

2676
01:44:45,270 --> 01:44:43,440
15 minutes

2677
01:44:48,070 --> 01:44:45,280
and

2678
01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:48,080
i was actually the last to give up on

2679
01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:50,560
watching it um i was actually the only

2680
01:44:54,550 --> 01:44:52,400
one that stood there and watched it

2681
01:44:56,550 --> 01:44:54,560
until it vanished

2682
01:44:59,350 --> 01:44:56,560
and i couldn't tell where it went it

2683
01:45:00,950 --> 01:44:59,360
just vanished

2684
01:45:03,109 --> 01:45:00,960
but everybody stood there for several

2685
01:45:04,550 --> 01:45:03,119
minutes and we talked i stood there for

2686
01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:04,560
at least 15

2687
01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:06,239
minutes watching it

2688
01:45:10,390 --> 01:45:07,520
and

2689
01:45:13,510 --> 01:45:10,400
could not explain its movements

2690
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:13,520
it did not behave like anything

2691
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:17,280
that i've ever seen in person or

2692
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:18,400
you know

2693
01:45:24,310 --> 01:45:21,119
through video or anything like that i i

2694
01:45:26,629 --> 01:45:24,320
cannot even begin to explain how it was

2695
01:45:28,790 --> 01:45:26,639
moving in the way that it moved

2696
01:45:31,350 --> 01:45:28,800
like i said it was solid white

2697
01:45:34,229 --> 01:45:31,360
and i don't know if it was glowing white

2698
01:45:36,070 --> 01:45:34,239
of its own accord or if it was perhaps

2699
01:45:38,229 --> 01:45:36,080
reflecting the sun

2700
01:45:40,149 --> 01:45:38,239
um and that was giving it a wide

2701
01:45:41,430 --> 01:45:40,159
appearance

2702
01:45:43,830 --> 01:45:41,440
but again

2703
01:45:46,709 --> 01:45:43,840
very erratic

2704
01:45:49,830 --> 01:45:46,719
aerial vehicles that we've designed

2705
01:45:52,149 --> 01:45:49,840
at this point in our history

2706
01:45:54,229 --> 01:45:52,159
cannot and does not move that way

2707
01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:54,239
and so

2708
01:45:57,590 --> 01:45:55,920
i did take some video of it but

2709
01:45:58,629 --> 01:45:57,600
unfortunately the video is not very

2710
01:46:00,470 --> 01:45:58,639
compelling

2711
01:46:03,109 --> 01:46:00,480
because

2712
01:46:05,510 --> 01:46:03,119
again with it being a solid blue sky

2713
01:46:07,189 --> 01:46:05,520
i'm moving my phone around to keep up

2714
01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:07,199
keep it in the frame

2715
01:46:10,390 --> 01:46:08,560
but you're still just seeing blue

2716
01:46:11,990 --> 01:46:10,400
everywhere it goes so when you go back

2717
01:46:13,270 --> 01:46:12,000
and watch the video without being there

2718
01:46:15,109 --> 01:46:13,280
it just looks like

2719
01:46:17,030 --> 01:46:15,119
an object that's staying completely

2720
01:46:18,950 --> 01:46:17,040
still against this blue sky but it was

2721
01:46:20,149 --> 01:46:18,960
actually kind of moving all over the

2722
01:46:21,669 --> 01:46:20,159
place

2723
01:46:23,590 --> 01:46:21,679
so um

2724
01:46:27,510 --> 01:46:23,600
anyways yeah it like i said these

2725
01:46:30,470 --> 01:46:27,520
experiences just reinforced

2726
01:46:33,669 --> 01:46:30,480
my opinion that there's something

2727
01:46:36,229 --> 01:46:33,679
that out there that we can't explain

2728
01:46:38,709 --> 01:46:36,239
at least the public is not aware of and

2729
01:46:40,390 --> 01:46:38,719
able to explain

2730
01:46:42,390 --> 01:46:40,400
it doesn't scare me

2731
01:46:45,510 --> 01:46:42,400
um it excites me

2732
01:46:46,870 --> 01:46:45,520
um it gets my mind going as to what it

2733
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:46,880
could be

2734
01:46:50,950 --> 01:46:49,600
um and those possibilities of course are

2735
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:50,960
endless

2736
01:46:54,550 --> 01:46:52,560
but

2737
01:46:55,910 --> 01:46:54,560
you know it's

2738
01:46:57,990 --> 01:46:55,920
it's apparent when you experience

2739
01:47:00,550 --> 01:46:58,000
something like that like so many of your

2740
01:47:02,629 --> 01:47:00,560
listeners have that

2741
01:47:04,550 --> 01:47:02,639
you can't even begin to explain it that

2742
01:47:05,910 --> 01:47:04,560
you don't know

2743
01:47:08,790 --> 01:47:05,920
how to

2744
01:47:11,669 --> 01:47:08,800
put it into a perspective that fits your

2745
01:47:13,030 --> 01:47:11,679
known reality it's just something

2746
01:47:15,990 --> 01:47:13,040
you know

2747
01:47:17,830 --> 01:47:16,000
it was as crazy to me as if a

2748
01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:17,840
you know

2749
01:47:22,310 --> 01:47:19,920
a dragon came flying down out of the air

2750
01:47:24,229 --> 01:47:22,320
and flew overhead like it's it's just

2751
01:47:26,550 --> 01:47:24,239
something that doesn't fit our reality

2752
01:47:29,350 --> 01:47:26,560
what we know of existence and

2753
01:47:31,910 --> 01:47:29,360
to me that's very exciting um

2754
01:47:34,790 --> 01:47:31,920
and i hope in my lifetime

2755
01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:34,800
i'll get more answers we all will than

2756
01:47:39,030 --> 01:47:36,560
we are now so

2757
01:47:40,550 --> 01:47:39,040
anyways thanks ryan um

2758
01:47:42,390 --> 01:47:40,560
i appreciate

2759
01:47:45,189 --> 01:47:42,400
you fighting the good fight

2760
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:45,199
i love your podcast avid listener keep

2761
01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:47,040
it up man thanks

2762
01:47:53,109 --> 01:47:50,880
hi ryan my name is vince busey

2763
01:47:55,189 --> 01:47:53,119
i live in brunswick ohio which is just

2764
01:47:57,430 --> 01:47:55,199
right outside of

2765
01:48:00,870 --> 01:47:57,440
cleveland ohio

2766
01:48:03,510 --> 01:48:00,880
and we had just moved into a new house

2767
01:48:05,750 --> 01:48:03,520
and our old house was less than a mile

2768
01:48:07,990 --> 01:48:05,760
away

2769
01:48:10,629 --> 01:48:08,000
and my routine was that i would work my

2770
01:48:13,189 --> 01:48:10,639
nine-to-five job

2771
01:48:15,669 --> 01:48:13,199
and after i'd spend time with the family

2772
01:48:18,229 --> 01:48:15,679
and eat dinner i would get ready to go

2773
01:48:19,910 --> 01:48:18,239
work on the old house to get it ready to

2774
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:19,920
sell

2775
01:48:24,709 --> 01:48:22,560
one night i finished up i'd say about

2776
01:48:27,510 --> 01:48:24,719
1am

2777
01:48:30,709 --> 01:48:27,520
and on the way home i entered my

2778
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:30,719
development and i was going west

2779
01:48:36,149 --> 01:48:33,360
and i saw something in the sky that i

2780
01:48:38,790 --> 01:48:36,159
know i had not seen at least in the last

2781
01:48:44,870 --> 01:48:41,270
it was probably about

2782
01:48:47,030 --> 01:48:44,880
visually two inches above the tree line

2783
01:48:48,790 --> 01:48:47,040
and it was strange enough that i stopped

2784
01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:48,800
and got out of my car to take a look at

2785
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:50,560
it

2786
01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:52,719
now granted i was pretty tired i looked

2787
01:48:56,470 --> 01:48:54,239
at it and

2788
01:48:59,590 --> 01:48:56,480
i was gonna just shrug it off but i was

2789
01:49:01,189 --> 01:48:59,600
about a thousand feet from my driveway

2790
01:49:03,430 --> 01:49:01,199
so i drove that

2791
01:49:05,669 --> 01:49:03,440
got in my driveway got out and took an

2792
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:05,679
another good look at it

2793
01:49:08,870 --> 01:49:07,440
and i just knew something wasn't right

2794
01:49:10,390 --> 01:49:08,880
about it

2795
01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:10,400
and i'll give you an idea what it looked

2796
01:49:19,109 --> 01:49:15,189
in the night sky

2797
01:49:20,790 --> 01:49:19,119
it was slightly larger than my thumb

2798
01:49:22,950 --> 01:49:20,800
and

2799
01:49:24,310 --> 01:49:22,960
i wouldn't say that it was giving off

2800
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:24,320
light i would say that it was

2801
01:49:29,669 --> 01:49:26,159
illuminated

2802
01:49:31,669 --> 01:49:29,679
it wasn't like shining but

2803
01:49:32,470 --> 01:49:31,679
the way i would explain it was it looked

2804
01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:32,480
like

2805
01:49:37,510 --> 01:49:34,080
the moon would

2806
01:49:39,750 --> 01:49:37,520
low on the horizon on a hazy humid dark

2807
01:49:43,030 --> 01:49:39,760
night it was just an eerie like a

2808
01:49:44,390 --> 01:49:43,040
vanilla looking white

2809
01:49:47,189 --> 01:49:44,400
so anyways

2810
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:47,199
i stood there and i watched it

2811
01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:48,880
and then i thought to myself you know

2812
01:49:52,229 --> 01:49:50,639
what no one is going to believe me about

2813
01:49:54,229 --> 01:49:52,239
this so

2814
01:49:57,109 --> 01:49:54,239
i ran into the house now this was a

2815
01:49:58,709 --> 01:49:57,119
school night and it was probably 1 30

2816
01:50:01,590 --> 01:49:58,719
a.m

2817
01:50:04,149 --> 01:50:01,600
and i woke my daughter and my son up

2818
01:50:06,870 --> 01:50:04,159
my daughter 16 years old at this time my

2819
01:50:08,950 --> 01:50:06,880
son was 13 years old i got them to come

2820
01:50:11,109 --> 01:50:08,960
outside

2821
01:50:13,350 --> 01:50:11,119
and

2822
01:50:15,030 --> 01:50:13,360
my son being the skeptic that he is

2823
01:50:17,750 --> 01:50:15,040
probably lasted about three minutes

2824
01:50:19,350 --> 01:50:17,760
taking a look at it and he said i'm

2825
01:50:20,470 --> 01:50:19,360
going inside

2826
01:50:22,470 --> 01:50:20,480
but i know

2827
01:50:24,709 --> 01:50:22,480
that he went inside because he was

2828
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:24,719
scared you could see the fear in his

2829
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:25,840
eyes

2830
01:50:29,669 --> 01:50:27,840
so he went inside

2831
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:29,679
my daughter and i stayed out in the

2832
01:50:32,950 --> 01:50:31,119
driveway

2833
01:50:34,310 --> 01:50:32,960
watched it a couple more minutes and

2834
01:50:36,629 --> 01:50:34,320
then i realized hey you know what i got

2835
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:36,639
binoculars and i knew exactly where they

2836
01:50:41,270 --> 01:50:39,040
were because i did all the boxing when

2837
01:50:45,189 --> 01:50:41,280
we moved out of the old house

2838
01:50:47,669 --> 01:50:45,199
so i came in i got the binoculars

2839
01:50:50,629 --> 01:50:47,679
and ran back outside and i took the

2840
01:50:53,669 --> 01:50:52,550
out of the binoculars

2841
01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:53,679
and i couldn't believe what i was

2842
01:51:00,870 --> 01:50:55,360
looking at

2843
01:51:02,709 --> 01:51:00,880
kind of egg-shaped not as dramatic as an

2844
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:02,719
egg shape that was wider

2845
01:51:07,510 --> 01:51:05,280
than it was tall

2846
01:51:09,590 --> 01:51:07,520
and the best way i can describe it is

2847
01:51:11,590 --> 01:51:09,600
the bottom of it

2848
01:51:13,990 --> 01:51:11,600
looked like it was made out of old clad

2849
01:51:15,109 --> 01:51:14,000
iron like rivets like you'd see on an

2850
01:51:19,109 --> 01:51:15,119
old

2851
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:19,119
with seams

2852
01:51:23,189 --> 01:51:21,440
but it just looked old and from the

2853
01:51:24,950 --> 01:51:23,199
halfway point up

2854
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:24,960
it looked really modern

2855
01:51:27,750 --> 01:51:26,000
and

2856
01:51:31,350 --> 01:51:27,760
the best way i could describe the upper

2857
01:51:34,070 --> 01:51:31,360
part is that as if you were looking

2858
01:51:35,990 --> 01:51:34,080
from underneath up looking at a bridge

2859
01:51:38,390 --> 01:51:36,000
like with girders

2860
01:51:40,470 --> 01:51:38,400
and i remember vividly seeing what

2861
01:51:43,750 --> 01:51:40,480
looked like lures like you'd see on an

2862
01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:43,760
old z28 or an old muscle car you you see

2863
01:51:47,510 --> 01:51:45,840
those lures

2864
01:51:49,589 --> 01:51:47,520
and then also i remember and this is

2865
01:51:52,790 --> 01:51:49,599
going to sound crazy but the top of it

2866
01:51:54,229 --> 01:51:52,800
was shaped like a genie's lamp

2867
01:51:56,310 --> 01:51:54,239
that's the best way i could describe

2868
01:51:59,350 --> 01:51:56,320
this thing

2869
01:52:01,350 --> 01:51:59,360
i gave the binoculars to my daughter

2870
01:52:02,390 --> 01:52:01,360
and she also

2871
01:52:04,870 --> 01:52:02,400
she didn't have

2872
01:52:06,790 --> 01:52:04,880
the words that i had to explain it but

2873
01:52:09,669 --> 01:52:06,800
she explained it pretty much the same

2874
01:52:10,790 --> 01:52:09,679
way that i had said it

2875
01:52:12,629 --> 01:52:10,800
so

2876
01:52:14,830 --> 01:52:12,639
we watched it i'd say probably for about

2877
01:52:17,669 --> 01:52:14,840
another five minutes trading off

2878
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:17,679
binoculars and this thing just was not

2879
01:52:22,870 --> 01:52:20,320
moving it was just in the sky

2880
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:22,880
and it was not moving

2881
01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:25,040
so i looked at it through the binoculars

2882
01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:27,280
again and

2883
01:52:33,350 --> 01:52:30,560
it scared me to death because something

2884
01:52:37,030 --> 01:52:33,360
had changed to me it looked like

2885
01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:37,040
it was sitting on top of like a pedestal

2886
01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:40,320
like a gray white

2887
01:52:45,830 --> 01:52:42,000
pedestal that's the best way i can

2888
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:45,840
explain it very rigid edges

2889
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:47,440
so i handed the binoculars to my

2890
01:52:50,229 --> 01:52:48,480
daughter

2891
01:52:51,910 --> 01:52:50,239
and i asked her

2892
01:52:53,830 --> 01:52:51,920
tell me what's changed i didn't want to

2893
01:52:55,830 --> 01:52:53,840
tell her what i had seen but i said tell

2894
01:52:57,589 --> 01:52:55,840
me what's changed

2895
01:52:59,830 --> 01:52:57,599
and she looked at it and she looked at

2896
01:53:01,270 --> 01:52:59,840
me and she said oh my god dad

2897
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:01,280
that's a beam of light coming out of

2898
01:53:07,910 --> 01:53:06,390
so we both at that point we were freaked

2899
01:53:09,189 --> 01:53:07,920
out

2900
01:53:12,229 --> 01:53:09,199
and

2901
01:53:13,830 --> 01:53:12,239
she lasted probably about another two

2902
01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:13,840
three minutes and she was scared to

2903
01:53:18,310 --> 01:53:16,320
death she ran inside

2904
01:53:20,950 --> 01:53:18,320
i on the other hand stood out probably

2905
01:53:23,350 --> 01:53:20,960
for about another two to three minutes

2906
01:53:25,510 --> 01:53:23,360
with him without the binoculars and i

2907
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:25,520
too felt the exact same thing i felt

2908
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:26,560
fear

2909
01:53:31,510 --> 01:53:28,800
i felt dread i felt like i was seeing

2910
01:53:33,430 --> 01:53:31,520
something that i was not supposed to see

2911
01:53:36,149 --> 01:53:33,440
and ironically enough that's how my

2912
01:53:37,910 --> 01:53:36,159
daughter sort of explained it

2913
01:53:41,270 --> 01:53:37,920
so i came inside

2914
01:53:47,189 --> 01:53:43,990
and i took a shower

2915
01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:48,709
once in bed

2916
01:53:53,430 --> 01:53:51,840
i realized i could see this thing still

2917
01:53:55,189 --> 01:53:53,440
it was i could see it right out my

2918
01:53:57,189 --> 01:53:55,199
window

2919
01:53:59,350 --> 01:53:57,199
and then this is when i noticed this

2920
01:54:01,910 --> 01:53:59,360
thing actually is moving

2921
01:54:03,669 --> 01:54:01,920
and it was moving so slow that the only

2922
01:54:07,750 --> 01:54:03,679
way i could tell

2923
01:54:10,390 --> 01:54:07,760
was by the frame of my window

2924
01:54:12,550 --> 01:54:10,400
i watched it in comparison

2925
01:54:15,669 --> 01:54:12,560
and it was moving so slow

2926
01:54:17,750 --> 01:54:15,679
like you would see the moon move

2927
01:54:20,550 --> 01:54:17,760
if you were sky watching it was moving

2928
01:54:24,310 --> 01:54:20,560
horizontally though

2929
01:54:26,629 --> 01:54:24,320
and i watched it for at least

2930
01:54:28,870 --> 01:54:26,639
another 15 minutes

2931
01:54:31,109 --> 01:54:28,880
and then i don't remember anything

2932
01:54:33,030 --> 01:54:31,119
i had fallen asleep

2933
01:54:35,030 --> 01:54:33,040
in the morning

2934
01:54:36,550 --> 01:54:35,040
i decided i was going to make a call to

2935
01:54:38,550 --> 01:54:36,560
mufon

2936
01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:38,560
and i did that

2937
01:54:43,669 --> 01:54:40,000
and it must have been a pretty good

2938
01:54:45,830 --> 01:54:43,679
story because within 24 to 48 hours

2939
01:54:49,109 --> 01:54:45,840
i had a field rep

2940
01:54:50,470 --> 01:54:49,119
field investigator at my doorstep

2941
01:54:53,350 --> 01:54:50,480
and it was really

2942
01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:53,360
nice to have someone to tell my story to

2943
01:54:59,030 --> 01:54:56,400
and he did a great job of showing me

2944
01:55:01,830 --> 01:54:59,040
with his program

2945
01:55:03,589 --> 01:55:01,840
what was supposed to be in the night sky

2946
01:55:05,189 --> 01:55:03,599
what was in the night sky and what

2947
01:55:06,470 --> 01:55:05,199
shouldn't be in the night sky and what i

2948
01:55:09,270 --> 01:55:06,480
saw that night

2949
01:55:11,430 --> 01:55:09,280
was not supposed to be there

2950
01:55:13,270 --> 01:55:11,440
i did get some pictures of it but it was

2951
01:55:15,189 --> 01:55:13,280
with an old flip phone

2952
01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:15,199
but it was still enough to see that

2953
01:55:19,750 --> 01:55:17,440
there was something there

2954
01:55:22,149 --> 01:55:19,760
so my story is on mufon it does have a

2955
01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:22,159
case number

2956
01:55:27,589 --> 01:55:24,800
this experience has been both

2957
01:55:29,669 --> 01:55:27,599
amazing and terrifying

2958
01:55:31,510 --> 01:55:29,679
but i cannot wait

2959
01:55:32,790 --> 01:55:31,520
to hopefully see something like this

2960
01:55:36,709 --> 01:55:32,800
again

2961
01:55:38,709 --> 01:55:36,719
my story

2962
01:55:41,830 --> 01:55:38,719
and i love your show

2963
01:55:44,950 --> 01:55:41,840
have a good night bye hey there i don't

2964
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:44,960
know the exact date but i know it was

2965
01:55:50,629 --> 01:55:47,679
june of 1970

2966
01:55:52,070 --> 01:55:50,639
i was sitting in my bedroom listening to

2967
01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:52,080
the phillies game

2968
01:55:55,030 --> 01:55:54,000
and then my sister comes running and

2969
01:55:57,830 --> 01:55:55,040
saying

2970
01:56:00,070 --> 01:55:57,840
ken ken there's a flying saucer outside

2971
01:56:02,149 --> 01:56:00,080
screaming at the top of her lungs and

2972
01:56:04,550 --> 01:56:02,159
i'm like yeah right and i thought she

2973
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:04,560
was just fooling around because she

2974
01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:08,080
knew i was into reading um ufo books

2975
01:56:11,589 --> 01:56:09,520
and whatnot

2976
01:56:12,870 --> 01:56:11,599
so anyway i go outside

2977
01:56:14,390 --> 01:56:12,880
and i'm like

2978
01:56:15,990 --> 01:56:14,400
holy crap

2979
01:56:17,350 --> 01:56:16,000
and there was a whole bunch of people

2980
01:56:18,149 --> 01:56:17,360
from the neighborhood looking at this

2981
01:56:20,070 --> 01:56:18,159
thing

2982
01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:20,080
it must have been about 100 feet high

2983
01:56:25,430 --> 01:56:22,960
off the ground it was circular and it

2984
01:56:27,990 --> 01:56:25,440
had um multi-colored lights going around

2985
01:56:31,189 --> 01:56:28,000
the center of it and i do remember that

2986
01:56:32,470 --> 01:56:31,199
one of the lights was black i mean maybe

2987
01:56:34,390 --> 01:56:32,480
there wasn't a light there but it was

2988
01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:34,400
blocked out the section where the light

2989
01:56:39,030 --> 01:56:37,199
should have been was blacked out and um

2990
01:56:40,870 --> 01:56:39,040
i just watched it then my father came

2991
01:56:42,149 --> 01:56:40,880
home and he's like what's everyone

2992
01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:42,159
looking at i'm like can't you see it

2993
01:56:46,470 --> 01:56:45,280
right there and he's like holy crap too

2994
01:56:48,149 --> 01:56:46,480
and um

2995
01:56:49,510 --> 01:56:48,159
he took out his binoculars and looked at

2996
01:56:52,149 --> 01:56:49,520
it and i asked him well what does it

2997
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:52,159
look like through binoculars he says the

2998
01:56:55,510 --> 01:56:54,239
same only bigger

2999
01:56:58,709 --> 01:56:55,520
and then

3000
01:56:59,589 --> 01:56:58,719
after that we watched this for about an

3001
01:57:01,990 --> 01:56:59,599
hour

3002
01:57:03,669 --> 01:57:02,000
the lights just went out on the thing

3003
01:57:04,870 --> 01:57:03,679
and where it used to be was just blank

3004
01:57:07,189 --> 01:57:04,880
space

3005
01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:07,199
in the sky there and then that was it

3006
01:57:11,189 --> 01:57:09,760
and i went inside every hour coming out

3007
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:11,199
actually every half hour coming out to

3008
01:57:18,790 --> 01:57:16,709
so

3009
01:57:19,589 --> 01:57:18,800
i was 18

3010
01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:19,599
and

3011
01:57:23,189 --> 01:57:21,360
in college at

3012
01:57:25,270 --> 01:57:23,199
university of colorado at boulder so i

3013
01:57:26,870 --> 01:57:25,280
was in boulder colorado and if you don't

3014
01:57:29,109 --> 01:57:26,880
know colorado

3015
01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:29,119
near the denver area is actually or just

3016
01:57:34,229 --> 01:57:31,599
colorado in general i think they

3017
01:57:35,589 --> 01:57:34,239
have a lot of ufo sightings in colorado

3018
01:57:38,629 --> 01:57:35,599
i wasn't thinking about that though at

3019
01:57:39,510 --> 01:57:38,639
the time so it was a nighttime

3020
01:57:40,870 --> 01:57:39,520
thing

3021
01:57:43,189 --> 01:57:40,880
i was

3022
01:57:45,510 --> 01:57:43,199
out bored and no friends this was my

3023
01:57:47,669 --> 01:57:45,520
first semester of college and i decided

3024
01:57:49,189 --> 01:57:47,679
to climb the it's ironic because i

3025
01:57:52,229 --> 01:57:49,199
climbed the

3026
01:57:53,990 --> 01:57:52,239
astronomy building it was like the side

3027
01:57:55,589 --> 01:57:54,000
of the building was like it wasn't very

3028
01:57:57,990 --> 01:57:55,599
tall it was like

3029
01:57:59,270 --> 01:57:58,000
slanted and they had like bricks going

3030
01:58:01,270 --> 01:57:59,280
up kind of like a pyramid i don't know

3031
01:58:03,430 --> 01:58:01,280
how to describe it so i climbed up the

3032
01:58:05,910 --> 01:58:03,440
side of it and was sitting up there you

3033
01:58:07,669 --> 01:58:05,920
know doing whatever so i'm looking up at

3034
01:58:09,589 --> 01:58:07,679
the stars and i see this constellation

3035
01:58:11,669 --> 01:58:09,599
it's like a square

3036
01:58:13,750 --> 01:58:11,679
but it's like moving

3037
01:58:16,709 --> 01:58:13,760
slowly very slowly like and i'm like

3038
01:58:18,950 --> 01:58:16,719
that is weird so i'm watching it and i'm

3039
01:58:21,750 --> 01:58:18,960
like there's no way those are stars

3040
01:58:23,189 --> 01:58:21,760
they're not airplanes because they don't

3041
01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:23,199
move they're not making noise it wasn't

3042
01:58:28,550 --> 01:58:25,599
helicopters it was just silent like

3043
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:28,560
moving across the sky slowly so i was

3044
01:58:32,390 --> 01:58:30,560
like that's weird i didn't really think

3045
01:58:34,310 --> 01:58:32,400
anything of it

3046
01:58:36,870 --> 01:58:34,320
and so

3047
01:58:38,790 --> 01:58:36,880
i was like that's strange

3048
01:58:40,390 --> 01:58:38,800
anyway i'm sitting there still right

3049
01:58:41,750 --> 01:58:40,400
after that

3050
01:58:44,310 --> 01:58:41,760
i don't remember how long it was going

3051
01:58:46,070 --> 01:58:44,320
for right after that though

3052
01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:46,080
this

3053
01:58:51,669 --> 01:58:48,960
the formation of lights looking like

3054
01:58:53,430 --> 01:58:51,679
stars but much lower than the first one

3055
01:58:55,830 --> 01:58:53,440
and when i say v formation it's like you

3056
01:58:58,629 --> 01:58:55,840
know when geese are flying

3057
01:58:59,990 --> 01:58:58,639
south for the winter or wherever

3058
01:59:02,229 --> 01:59:00,000
wherever they fly

3059
01:59:04,629 --> 01:59:02,239
and they fly in that v formation this is

3060
01:59:06,390 --> 01:59:04,639
how those stars were aligned and they

3061
01:59:10,310 --> 01:59:06,400
flew over

3062
01:59:13,669 --> 01:59:10,320
fast like in low and no sound

3063
01:59:16,790 --> 01:59:13,679
flew over quick and i was like

3064
01:59:18,070 --> 01:59:16,800
shook i was like whoa what the heck was

3065
01:59:19,350 --> 01:59:18,080
that

3066
01:59:21,189 --> 01:59:19,360
i was like

3067
01:59:22,229 --> 01:59:21,199
really shook up about that

3068
01:59:23,990 --> 01:59:22,239
and so

3069
01:59:24,870 --> 01:59:24,000
i was like oh my god

3070
01:59:28,149 --> 01:59:24,880
that was

3071
01:59:31,189 --> 01:59:28,159
ufos that's weird so i called my dad i

3072
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:31,199
climb up off the tower and call my dad

3073
01:59:34,470 --> 01:59:33,440
because he's into conspiracies and ufos

3074
01:59:35,830 --> 01:59:34,480
and all that

3075
01:59:38,229 --> 01:59:35,840
and i'm telling him about it and all of

3076
01:59:39,109 --> 01:59:38,239
a sudden our my phone disconnects

3077
01:59:47,510 --> 01:59:39,119
and

3078
01:59:49,109 --> 01:59:47,520
he was scared because it was saying

3079
01:59:50,629 --> 01:59:49,119
like the number you're trying to reach

3080
01:59:52,229 --> 01:59:50,639
is like out of

3081
01:59:54,550 --> 01:59:52,239
like service

3082
01:59:56,629 --> 01:59:54,560
area i don't know it was a weird message

3083
01:59:59,350 --> 01:59:56,639
we never heard before but i totally

3084
02:00:01,910 --> 01:59:59,360
believe in ufos now when i say i believe

3085
02:00:04,070 --> 02:00:01,920
in ufos colorado has a lot of military

3086
02:00:05,510 --> 02:00:04,080
installation so when i say ufo it could

3087
02:00:07,430 --> 02:00:05,520
have been

3088
02:00:08,870 --> 02:00:07,440
it's just an unidentified flying object

3089
02:00:13,270 --> 02:00:08,880
it could have been

3090
02:00:15,109 --> 02:00:13,280
like top secret

3091
02:00:17,109 --> 02:00:15,119
technology or it could have been aliens

3092
02:00:18,310 --> 02:00:17,119
i don't know i'm open to all things i

3093
02:00:20,149 --> 02:00:18,320
have a very open mind but i've

3094
02:00:22,470 --> 02:00:20,159
definitely seen them

3095
02:00:25,750 --> 02:00:22,480
when i moved to new orleans i've seen

3096
02:00:28,149 --> 02:00:25,760
ufos as well but now here when i saw

3097
02:00:29,510 --> 02:00:28,159
ufos when i saw the

3098
02:00:32,390 --> 02:00:29,520
ufos

3099
02:00:34,950 --> 02:00:32,400
in colorado they were like like the

3100
02:00:36,470 --> 02:00:34,960
color of stars so white i guess they

3101
02:00:40,229 --> 02:00:36,480
just literally look like stars that are

3102
02:00:43,350 --> 02:00:40,239
moving fast so but when i moved here i'm

3103
02:00:47,189 --> 02:00:43,360
i've seen ufos like that before too but

3104
02:00:48,229 --> 02:00:47,199
i've also seen they were red

3105
02:00:49,589 --> 02:00:48,239
and

3106
02:00:51,990 --> 02:00:49,599
they will

3107
02:00:55,830 --> 02:00:52,000
at first i think they're like

3108
02:00:57,189 --> 02:00:55,840
airplanes but when you watch them

3109
02:00:59,830 --> 02:00:57,199
they're not moving like airplanes

3110
02:01:01,030 --> 02:00:59,840
because they'll move they'll like stop

3111
02:01:04,070 --> 02:01:01,040
or they will

3112
02:01:05,350 --> 02:01:04,080
just zoom around or they

3113
02:01:07,669 --> 02:01:05,360
they just don't move like planes you

3114
02:01:09,669 --> 02:01:07,679
know they'll go up down whatever

3115
02:01:11,910 --> 02:01:09,679
for a moment in my life i was like

3116
02:01:13,510 --> 02:01:11,920
obsessed with it like always looking

3117
02:01:15,350 --> 02:01:13,520
outside always looking in the sky to see

3118
02:01:17,669 --> 02:01:15,360
if there's ufos that drove me a little

3119
02:01:19,589 --> 02:01:17,679
bit crazy

3120
02:01:21,510 --> 02:01:19,599
so then i let it go but i've definitely

3121
02:01:24,550 --> 02:01:21,520
seen ufos

3122
02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:24,560
multiple times and you know i just i

3123
02:01:28,870 --> 02:01:27,280
don't understand it or what's going on

3124
02:01:30,470 --> 02:01:28,880
and i believe that they are there and

3125
02:01:31,510 --> 02:01:30,480
they are there

3126
02:01:32,950 --> 02:01:31,520
and i'm like

3127
02:01:35,189 --> 02:01:32,960
i see you

3128
02:01:36,550 --> 02:01:35,199
i know you are there but what can i do

3129
02:01:37,510 --> 02:01:36,560
about it

3130
02:01:38,709 --> 02:01:37,520
nothing

3131
02:01:39,589 --> 02:01:38,719
they're real

3132
02:01:41,109 --> 02:01:39,599
and

3133
02:01:43,510 --> 02:01:41,119
when i've never had anything happen

3134
02:01:45,350 --> 02:01:43,520
where like they land or i see any aliens

3135
02:01:46,870 --> 02:01:45,360
because that would probably just

3136
02:01:48,870 --> 02:01:46,880
shake me to my core and i don't know if

3137
02:01:52,550 --> 02:01:48,880
i'd survive you know

3138
02:01:57,109 --> 02:01:54,950
uh hello um

3139
02:01:58,950 --> 02:01:57,119
my name is andy um

3140
02:02:02,629 --> 02:01:58,960
and i wanted to share

3141
02:02:06,629 --> 02:02:02,639
a uh ufo experience i had with two of my

3142
02:02:09,270 --> 02:02:06,639
friends uh back in uh 2003

3143
02:02:12,390 --> 02:02:09,280
um as in the sierra cascades

3144
02:02:15,669 --> 02:02:12,400
uh northern california is

3145
02:02:17,109 --> 02:02:15,679
west northwest of lake phillbrook

3146
02:02:18,390 --> 02:02:17,119
which is

3147
02:02:21,830 --> 02:02:18,400
i'd say

3148
02:02:23,589 --> 02:02:21,840
20 miles north northeast of sterling

3149
02:02:25,589 --> 02:02:23,599
city california

3150
02:02:27,750 --> 02:02:25,599
dirt roads

3151
02:02:31,030 --> 02:02:27,760
a lot of logging roads up there

3152
02:02:33,510 --> 02:02:31,040
and i want to say it was july

3153
02:02:35,510 --> 02:02:33,520
being there's uh at that altitude it's

3154
02:02:37,589 --> 02:02:35,520
around seven thousand feet there's

3155
02:02:39,189 --> 02:02:37,599
usually snow around eight months out of

3156
02:02:41,510 --> 02:02:39,199
the year

3157
02:02:44,149 --> 02:02:41,520
and when we're up there where there was

3158
02:02:46,470 --> 02:02:44,159
no snow um we were in t-shirts it was

3159
02:02:48,950 --> 02:02:46,480
warm weather so it had to have been

3160
02:02:51,910 --> 02:02:48,960
right right at the hot hot point of

3161
02:02:52,870 --> 02:02:51,920
summer anyway uh i guess i'll get

3162
02:02:54,470 --> 02:02:52,880
started

3163
02:02:55,589 --> 02:02:54,480
so

3164
02:02:56,709 --> 02:02:55,599
we uh

3165
02:02:58,550 --> 02:02:56,719
like always

3166
02:03:01,430 --> 02:02:58,560
you know we drive up those logging roads

3167
02:03:03,350 --> 02:03:01,440
i had a little 1974 pickup

3168
02:03:06,950 --> 02:03:03,360
sport custom truck

3169
02:03:09,830 --> 02:03:06,960
i love that thing went everywhere and

3170
02:03:12,470 --> 02:03:09,840
anywhere we possibly could uh in the

3171
02:03:16,070 --> 02:03:12,480
mountains up in this area

3172
02:03:18,790 --> 02:03:16,080
so we found plenty of places at the camp

3173
02:03:20,790 --> 02:03:18,800
um and one one place we were like

3174
02:03:23,030 --> 02:03:20,800
in particular uh

3175
02:03:24,790 --> 02:03:23,040
it was an old old logging

3176
02:03:26,790 --> 02:03:24,800
uh ground and

3177
02:03:28,950 --> 02:03:26,800
it was a pretty nice spot it was like

3178
02:03:33,189 --> 02:03:28,960
being in a miniature forest

3179
02:03:34,950 --> 02:03:33,199
anyway me and my friend jason and ira uh

3180
02:03:38,310 --> 02:03:34,960
drove up in my truck

3181
02:03:40,870 --> 02:03:38,320
uh and now we get there

3182
02:03:43,270 --> 02:03:40,880
at that time it was still still daytime

3183
02:03:45,430 --> 02:03:43,280
when we got there we just you know hung

3184
02:03:46,790 --> 02:03:45,440
out for a while went hiking did what we

3185
02:03:48,629 --> 02:03:46,800
usually do

3186
02:03:49,750 --> 02:03:48,639
just explored the area

3187
02:03:51,430 --> 02:03:49,760
talked about

3188
02:03:53,990 --> 02:03:51,440
random stuff

3189
02:03:57,109 --> 02:03:54,000
at the time ira was

3190
02:03:58,470 --> 02:03:57,119
really really delving into christianity

3191
02:04:00,070 --> 02:03:58,480
and and

3192
02:04:02,550 --> 02:04:00,080
he was really fascinated with

3193
02:04:05,189 --> 02:04:02,560
revelations in particular

3194
02:04:07,430 --> 02:04:05,199
at that time so he he brought his bible

3195
02:04:09,030 --> 02:04:07,440
and he uh kind of

3196
02:04:11,910 --> 02:04:09,040
kind of tortured

3197
02:04:13,589 --> 02:04:11,920
me and jason a little bit uh talking you

3198
02:04:15,270 --> 02:04:13,599
know just reading reading our

3199
02:04:17,750 --> 02:04:15,280
revelations and basically saying the

3200
02:04:19,669 --> 02:04:17,760
world was gonna end at any time and

3201
02:04:21,109 --> 02:04:19,679
anyway we just gotta let him do his

3202
02:04:23,350 --> 02:04:21,119
thing and

3203
02:04:24,550 --> 02:04:23,360
kind of fun to philosophize it out

3204
02:04:26,950 --> 02:04:24,560
anyway

3205
02:04:29,030 --> 02:04:26,960
i don't know what time it was son had

3206
02:04:31,350 --> 02:04:29,040
been down for an hour or two at this

3207
02:04:33,750 --> 02:04:31,360
point and you know he

3208
02:04:35,109 --> 02:04:33,760
had a fire already and cooked her kicked

3209
02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:35,119
our meals and

3210
02:04:38,790 --> 02:04:36,320
we were just sitting in the back of the

3211
02:04:41,189 --> 02:04:38,800
truck and yeah i

3212
02:04:43,669 --> 02:04:41,199
first thing i remember is hearing it

3213
02:04:46,310 --> 02:04:43,679
and it's really really difficult for me

3214
02:04:48,310 --> 02:04:46,320
to describe i cannot make the sound i

3215
02:04:50,470 --> 02:04:48,320
can't mimic the sound with

3216
02:04:52,470 --> 02:04:50,480
my own voice and i don't know if i could

3217
02:04:54,709 --> 02:04:52,480
even do it really

3218
02:04:55,830 --> 02:04:54,719
maybe with a computer i don't know but

3219
02:04:58,149 --> 02:04:55,840
uh

3220
02:05:00,470 --> 02:04:58,159
the best way i can describe it

3221
02:05:02,790 --> 02:05:00,480
is if you can imagine a two-stroke

3222
02:05:06,229 --> 02:05:02,800
motorcycle idling

3223
02:05:07,109 --> 02:05:06,239
and then mix that with a dog growling

3224
02:05:10,229 --> 02:05:07,119
and then

3225
02:05:12,709 --> 02:05:10,239
submerge both of those sounds in water

3226
02:05:14,870 --> 02:05:12,719
so they're they're bubbling so it's like

3227
02:05:16,870 --> 02:05:14,880
a muffled uh

3228
02:05:19,589 --> 02:05:16,880
underwater

3229
02:05:22,310 --> 02:05:19,599
motorcycle that's idling but growling at

3230
02:05:23,270 --> 02:05:22,320
the same time that's what we heard

3231
02:05:25,669 --> 02:05:23,280
you're gonna have to use your

3232
02:05:27,589 --> 02:05:25,679
imagination i guess

3233
02:05:29,189 --> 02:05:27,599
all right that's the first thing and you

3234
02:05:31,030 --> 02:05:29,199
know i'm like but

3235
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:31,040
you know i look at jason i look at her

3236
02:05:34,709 --> 02:05:32,480
and kind of

3237
02:05:36,790 --> 02:05:34,719
like okay like this is

3238
02:05:40,310 --> 02:05:36,800
a weird sound and

3239
02:05:42,550 --> 02:05:40,320
and i i look up

3240
02:05:43,589 --> 02:05:42,560
and it had to have been at the very

3241
02:05:46,390 --> 02:05:43,599
least

3242
02:05:59,750 --> 02:05:46,400
a

3243
02:06:03,830 --> 02:05:59,760
uh

3244
02:06:05,510 --> 02:06:03,840
a half a mile to a mile across almost

3245
02:06:08,070 --> 02:06:05,520
even

3246
02:06:09,350 --> 02:06:08,080
at the very least a full football

3247
02:06:11,270 --> 02:06:09,360
stadium

3248
02:06:12,629 --> 02:06:11,280
in size

3249
02:06:14,950 --> 02:06:12,639
um

3250
02:06:17,270 --> 02:06:14,960
and it was going really slow it was it

3251
02:06:19,750 --> 02:06:17,280
went directly directly or almost

3252
02:06:22,870 --> 02:06:19,760
centered perfectly centered almost uh

3253
02:06:25,270 --> 02:06:22,880
above my truck and us um

3254
02:06:26,870 --> 02:06:25,280
anyway the second thing i noticed when i

3255
02:06:28,470 --> 02:06:26,880
when i finally

3256
02:06:31,430 --> 02:06:28,480
noticed it

3257
02:06:34,069 --> 02:06:31,440
uh was the stars were blotted out

3258
02:06:35,669 --> 02:06:34,079
like a huge swath of the sky was was

3259
02:06:37,589 --> 02:06:35,679
blotted out

3260
02:06:39,109 --> 02:06:37,599
that's that's the second thing i noticed

3261
02:06:40,790 --> 02:06:39,119
after the sound

3262
02:06:43,589 --> 02:06:40,800
third thing i noticed was the weird

3263
02:06:46,709 --> 02:06:43,599
light pattern um there was a crescent

3264
02:06:49,350 --> 02:06:46,719
light pattern in the front uh and then a

3265
02:06:50,709 --> 02:06:49,360
line that went directly down the middle

3266
02:06:53,669 --> 02:06:50,719
and then a

3267
02:06:56,229 --> 02:06:53,679
a circular shape of lights in the back

3268
02:06:59,830 --> 02:06:56,239
they're all white um i'd say the

3269
02:07:02,310 --> 02:06:59,840
crescent portion had five white lights

3270
02:07:04,790 --> 02:07:02,320
uh then there was five or six

3271
02:07:07,510 --> 02:07:04,800
running down the middle these are large

3272
02:07:08,870 --> 02:07:07,520
large lights uh five or six running down

3273
02:07:10,470 --> 02:07:08,880
the middle and then

3274
02:07:13,589 --> 02:07:10,480
uh at the back

3275
02:07:15,830 --> 02:07:13,599
it was uh i don't know five i think

3276
02:07:16,870 --> 02:07:15,840
again lights that were in a circular

3277
02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:16,880
pattern

3278
02:07:20,629 --> 02:07:18,880
and the silhouette of this

3279
02:07:23,430 --> 02:07:20,639
uh craft

3280
02:07:25,990 --> 02:07:23,440
was uh if you were to take

3281
02:07:28,629 --> 02:07:26,000
i don't know three quarters of an egg so

3282
02:07:30,390 --> 02:07:28,639
cut off a quarter of an egg just the end

3283
02:07:31,669 --> 02:07:30,400
of it and then

3284
02:07:34,950 --> 02:07:31,679
put

3285
02:07:36,629 --> 02:07:34,960
a golf ball up against it

3286
02:07:38,629 --> 02:07:36,639
so you have three quarters of an egg

3287
02:07:42,149 --> 02:07:38,639
running into a golf ball that was the

3288
02:07:44,790 --> 02:07:42,159
shape of this thing except it's the size

3289
02:07:46,709 --> 02:07:44,800
of a football stadium

3290
02:07:49,990 --> 02:07:46,719
and it's making this weird sound and

3291
02:07:52,229 --> 02:07:50,000
it's very very slowly cruising

3292
02:07:54,790 --> 02:07:52,239
over directly over us

3293
02:07:56,229 --> 02:07:54,800
so we we you know i just look up and i

3294
02:07:58,310 --> 02:07:56,239
look down at my friends and they're all

3295
02:08:00,470 --> 02:07:58,320
looking up and they're looking at it

3296
02:08:03,910 --> 02:08:00,480
obviously and ira is he just stopped

3297
02:08:05,830 --> 02:08:03,920
reading his mouth is just jaw dropped

3298
02:08:08,870 --> 02:08:05,840
eyes wide open he

3299
02:08:10,790 --> 02:08:08,880
he didn't talk the whole time actually

3300
02:08:12,390 --> 02:08:10,800
and me and jason are

3301
02:08:13,910 --> 02:08:12,400
looking at each other looking up looking

3302
02:08:15,990 --> 02:08:13,920
at it like

3303
02:08:18,470 --> 02:08:16,000
like okay what is that

3304
02:08:20,709 --> 02:08:18,480
you know what the hell is that what does

3305
02:08:22,149 --> 02:08:20,719
that sound just like

3306
02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:22,159
yeah we didn't know what the hell we

3307
02:08:27,589 --> 02:08:24,400
were looking

3308
02:08:29,589 --> 02:08:27,599
for we could see it and we could hear it

3309
02:08:31,030 --> 02:08:29,599
we all knew each other we're seeing and

3310
02:08:33,189 --> 02:08:31,040
hearing it but

3311
02:08:37,109 --> 02:08:33,199
none of us like still like really

3312
02:08:39,990 --> 02:08:37,119
believed what we were looking at and

3313
02:08:42,470 --> 02:08:40,000
after a couple minutes we we just didn't

3314
02:08:46,790 --> 02:08:42,480
talk to each other we just watched this

3315
02:08:49,350 --> 02:08:46,800
thing slowly cruise across the skyline

3316
02:08:51,750 --> 02:08:49,360
yeah we watched it for a good 10 minutes

3317
02:08:54,229 --> 02:08:51,760
it had to have been at least 10 minutes

3318
02:08:56,069 --> 02:08:54,239
i mean it was it wasn't going fast and

3319
02:08:58,510 --> 02:08:56,079
it didn't zip off or

3320
02:09:01,030 --> 02:08:58,520
you know disappear or anything it just

3321
02:09:02,790 --> 02:09:01,040
slowly creeped out of our sight over the

3322
02:09:04,390 --> 02:09:02,800
tree line until we couldn't see it

3323
02:09:05,750 --> 02:09:04,400
anymore

3324
02:09:07,430 --> 02:09:05,760
and

3325
02:09:09,109 --> 02:09:07,440
you know

3326
02:09:11,189 --> 02:09:09,119
i've had a few of these encounters and

3327
02:09:12,709 --> 02:09:11,199
the one of the weird things about them

3328
02:09:15,270 --> 02:09:12,719
is when they happen

3329
02:09:17,510 --> 02:09:15,280
uh me and the people i'm with we don't

3330
02:09:19,750 --> 02:09:17,520
talk about it the next day and we don't

3331
02:09:21,830 --> 02:09:19,760
even talk about the day after that

3332
02:09:23,270 --> 02:09:21,840
uh we we don't talk about it for months

3333
02:09:25,589 --> 02:09:23,280
we always end up

3334
02:09:27,830 --> 02:09:25,599
waiting a year or two before we bring it

3335
02:09:29,350 --> 02:09:27,840
up again and then when we do it's kind

3336
02:09:30,550 --> 02:09:29,360
of just like

3337
02:09:33,350 --> 02:09:30,560
awkward

3338
02:09:35,350 --> 02:09:33,360
and weird so anyway

3339
02:09:36,470 --> 02:09:35,360
i'd say a year or two later

3340
02:09:38,870 --> 02:09:36,480
i i

3341
02:09:40,870 --> 02:09:38,880
tried talking to ira about it

3342
02:09:43,350 --> 02:09:40,880
and he

3343
02:09:46,229 --> 02:09:43,360
wouldn't do it he said i'm not gonna

3344
02:09:48,550 --> 02:09:46,239
talk about this with you this

3345
02:09:52,390 --> 02:09:48,560
goes against my belief system i can't do

3346
02:09:54,629 --> 02:09:52,400
it um he had that that time was

3347
02:09:56,229 --> 02:09:54,639
very very full-blown

3348
02:09:58,629 --> 02:09:56,239
i wouldn't want to don't want to say

3349
02:10:01,589 --> 02:09:58,639
christian because that's not he was very

3350
02:10:03,270 --> 02:10:01,599
very adamant about his beliefs let's

3351
02:10:04,229 --> 02:10:03,280
just put it that way and

3352
02:10:07,510 --> 02:10:04,239
so

3353
02:10:08,870 --> 02:10:07,520
anyway he he wouldn't talk about it i

3354
02:10:11,109 --> 02:10:08,880
have never

3355
02:10:13,510 --> 02:10:11,119
been able to get him to talk about and

3356
02:10:15,350 --> 02:10:13,520
now i haven't spoken to him for

3357
02:10:16,950 --> 02:10:15,360
years and

3358
02:10:18,790 --> 02:10:16,960
i don't know what he's up to or anything

3359
02:10:21,750 --> 02:10:18,800
but um

3360
02:10:23,109 --> 02:10:21,760
jason the other guy was there

3361
02:10:26,149 --> 02:10:23,119
back in uh

3362
02:10:27,030 --> 02:10:26,159
i think it was 2011

3363
02:10:29,510 --> 02:10:27,040
so

3364
02:10:30,870 --> 02:10:29,520
is that eight years after uh the

3365
02:10:33,589 --> 02:10:30,880
sighting

3366
02:10:35,750 --> 02:10:33,599
um me and him were roommates we

3367
02:10:37,669 --> 02:10:35,760
roommated uh with each other moved into

3368
02:10:39,830 --> 02:10:37,679
a house together um

3369
02:10:42,229 --> 02:10:39,840
and one night you know i just

3370
02:10:43,910 --> 02:10:42,239
kind of brought it up and i was you know

3371
02:10:45,750 --> 02:10:43,920
and we started talking about it and

3372
02:10:47,510 --> 02:10:45,760
talking about the sound and everything

3373
02:10:49,830 --> 02:10:47,520
and then he starts describing what it

3374
02:10:51,430 --> 02:10:49,840
looked like and i'm like wait that just

3375
02:10:53,109 --> 02:10:51,440
doesn't sound right

3376
02:10:54,149 --> 02:10:53,119
because he started talking about red

3377
02:10:56,310 --> 02:10:54,159
lights

3378
02:10:57,990 --> 02:10:56,320
i'm thinking well i didn't see i only

3379
02:10:59,750 --> 02:10:58,000
saw white lights

3380
02:11:02,629 --> 02:10:59,760
so i asked i was like okay you draw what

3381
02:11:04,629 --> 02:11:02,639
you saw i'll drive draw what i saw

3382
02:11:06,229 --> 02:11:04,639
he described the sound being exactly the

3383
02:11:08,550 --> 02:11:06,239
same like

3384
02:11:11,030 --> 02:11:08,560
the dog growling

3385
02:11:13,669 --> 02:11:11,040
a motorcycle underwater

3386
02:11:14,629 --> 02:11:13,679
he described the size being exactly the

3387
02:11:17,270 --> 02:11:14,639
same

3388
02:11:19,270 --> 02:11:17,280
just a massive football stadium size

3389
02:11:21,430 --> 02:11:19,280
thing that just creeped over

3390
02:11:22,790 --> 02:11:21,440
it's very perplexing

3391
02:11:25,990 --> 02:11:22,800
this is

3392
02:11:28,229 --> 02:11:26,000
probably as mind-boggling

3393
02:11:30,310 --> 02:11:28,239
if not more so mind-boggling than the

3394
02:11:31,910 --> 02:11:30,320
encounter itself

3395
02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:31,920
okay what what i drew is what i

3396
02:11:35,990 --> 02:11:33,520
described earlier the crescent shaped

3397
02:11:37,109 --> 02:11:36,000
lights the egg and the circle and you

3398
02:11:38,870 --> 02:11:37,119
know

3399
02:11:40,550 --> 02:11:38,880
white lights

3400
02:11:42,310 --> 02:11:40,560
and a total of

3401
02:11:44,629 --> 02:11:42,320
you know maybe

3402
02:11:46,550 --> 02:11:44,639
15 to 20 lights

3403
02:11:48,790 --> 02:11:46,560
what he describes

3404
02:11:52,310 --> 02:11:48,800
is a perfect square

3405
02:11:55,669 --> 02:11:52,320
with i'd say two or three dozen bright

3406
02:11:58,149 --> 02:11:55,679
red smaller lights lining the edges

3407
02:12:01,990 --> 02:11:58,159
that's what he saw go over us that night

3408
02:12:04,149 --> 02:12:02,000
a massive football stadium-sized square

3409
02:12:06,709 --> 02:12:04,159
with red lights

3410
02:12:09,910 --> 02:12:06,719
i saw a massive football stadium

3411
02:12:11,270 --> 02:12:09,920
overly shaped circular shaped

3412
02:12:13,750 --> 02:12:11,280
white light

3413
02:12:17,270 --> 02:12:15,350
uh

3414
02:12:19,109 --> 02:12:17,280
that to me

3415
02:12:22,069 --> 02:12:19,119
it definitely

3416
02:12:23,109 --> 02:12:22,079
provided way more questions i have about

3417
02:12:25,669 --> 02:12:23,119
that whole

3418
02:12:28,390 --> 02:12:25,679
all of it any ufo counter any paranoid

3419
02:12:30,229 --> 02:12:28,400
any supernatural any of it

3420
02:12:32,390 --> 02:12:30,239
i have more questions about that stuff

3421
02:12:33,589 --> 02:12:32,400
than i do answers

3422
02:12:35,510 --> 02:12:33,599
because it just

3423
02:12:37,350 --> 02:12:35,520
i don't know it wasn't we just saw

3424
02:12:39,750 --> 02:12:37,360
something fly over us it's

3425
02:12:42,470 --> 02:12:39,760
we describe it in two completely

3426
02:12:45,030 --> 02:12:42,480
different ways visually anyway um

3427
02:12:46,310 --> 02:12:45,040
not as far as size but as far as shape

3428
02:12:48,390 --> 02:12:46,320
and

3429
02:12:51,430 --> 02:12:48,400
color goes

3430
02:12:55,030 --> 02:12:51,440
and it's extremely confusing to me

3431
02:12:57,350 --> 02:12:55,040
i don't know i don't know i i i am

3432
02:12:59,030 --> 02:12:57,360
even though i'm the one saying this and

3433
02:13:00,950 --> 02:12:59,040
and there are skeptics out there that

3434
02:13:02,709 --> 02:13:00,960
are probably gonna listen to this and

3435
02:13:05,910 --> 02:13:02,719
you know be like oh man he's full of

3436
02:13:07,910 --> 02:13:05,920
crap you have to understand something

3437
02:13:09,830 --> 02:13:07,920
i am the biggest skeptic

3438
02:13:12,790 --> 02:13:09,840
in this whole thing because i have no

3439
02:13:15,189 --> 02:13:12,800
idea i do not have a single answer on

3440
02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:15,199
what happened that night i don't know if

3441
02:13:21,270 --> 02:13:17,840
it was a figment of our imaginations we

3442
02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:21,280
all shared some hallucinations somehow

3443
02:13:25,430 --> 02:13:23,840
some plant i don't know some implanted i

3444
02:13:26,629 --> 02:13:25,440
don't know that's what i keep hearing

3445
02:13:28,550 --> 02:13:26,639
people are like oh you're just sharing

3446
02:13:30,310 --> 02:13:28,560
hallucinations and and

3447
02:13:32,069 --> 02:13:30,320
that then people call it a day they

3448
02:13:33,750 --> 02:13:32,079
don't provide any evidence that we're

3449
02:13:34,950 --> 02:13:33,760
sharing hallucinations they just say

3450
02:13:36,950 --> 02:13:34,960
you're oh you're just sharing

3451
02:13:39,910 --> 02:13:36,960
hallucinations it's like well okay if

3452
02:13:41,589 --> 02:13:39,920
that's what's happening how the hell

3453
02:13:43,109 --> 02:13:41,599
are people all

3454
02:13:45,430 --> 02:13:43,119
over the world

3455
02:13:47,109 --> 02:13:45,440
sharing hallucinations simultaneously at

3456
02:13:49,589 --> 02:13:47,119
the exact same time in the middle of the

3457
02:13:52,470 --> 02:13:49,599
damn woods especially

3458
02:13:54,950 --> 02:13:52,480
how does that happen what's causing that

3459
02:13:57,669 --> 02:13:54,960
oh anyway i have a million questions i

3460
02:13:59,589 --> 02:13:57,679
don't know what we saw how is even

3461
02:14:01,669 --> 02:13:59,599
possible because nothing man-made that

3462
02:14:03,750 --> 02:14:01,679
we know of anyway

3463
02:14:05,189 --> 02:14:03,760
that's uh there's nothing

3464
02:14:08,310 --> 02:14:05,199
we can never

3465
02:14:14,950 --> 02:14:11,750
as far as we know the general population

3466
02:14:18,550 --> 02:14:14,960
puts something the size of a football

3467
02:14:20,390 --> 02:14:18,560
stadium in the sky and have it just

3468
02:14:22,870 --> 02:14:20,400
you know kind of creep by

3469
02:14:25,030 --> 02:14:22,880
there's we just now we don't we don't

3470
02:14:26,950 --> 02:14:25,040
have that technology

3471
02:14:29,430 --> 02:14:26,960
or we do and

3472
02:14:32,310 --> 02:14:29,440
only a few people know about it

3473
02:14:35,589 --> 02:14:32,320
oh i have no idea what we saw that night

3474
02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:35,599
i don't know if it was real if it was

3475
02:14:42,629 --> 02:14:37,840
aliens if it was

3476
02:14:47,990 --> 02:14:44,550
i don't know

3477
02:14:51,189 --> 02:14:48,000
but anyway i just figured i'd share it

3478
02:14:52,790 --> 02:14:51,199
maybe someone around the area

3479
02:14:54,870 --> 02:14:52,800
around that time

3480
02:14:57,510 --> 02:14:54,880
saw something similar

3481
02:14:59,510 --> 02:14:57,520
um that's about all i can hope for

3482
02:15:01,430 --> 02:14:59,520
maybe somebody else has had a similar

3483
02:15:03,270 --> 02:15:01,440
experience somewhere else in the world

3484
02:15:05,589 --> 02:15:03,280
where them and their friends saw

3485
02:15:07,030 --> 02:15:05,599
something but they kind of perceive it

3486
02:15:08,470 --> 02:15:07,040
differently

3487
02:15:09,910 --> 02:15:08,480
but they're all sure that they saw

3488
02:15:11,189 --> 02:15:09,920
something

3489
02:15:13,669 --> 02:15:11,199
but yeah

3490
02:15:14,950 --> 02:15:13,679
so uh that's that's one of my

3491
02:15:17,990 --> 02:15:14,960
experiences

3492
02:15:19,750 --> 02:15:18,000
uh thank you for listening and uh yeah

3493
02:15:21,669 --> 02:15:19,760
if you want to

3494
02:15:23,589 --> 02:15:21,679
see this kind of stuff for yourself the

3495
02:15:25,669 --> 02:15:23,599
only thing i can say is get out in the

3496
02:15:26,790 --> 02:15:25,679
middle of nowhere as often as possible

3497
02:15:28,950 --> 02:15:26,800
because

3498
02:15:31,669 --> 02:15:28,960
all the most amazing things

3499
02:15:33,910 --> 02:15:31,679
as far as this kind of thing goes

3500
02:15:37,189 --> 02:15:33,920
i i've mostly been out in the middle of

3501
02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:37,199
nowhere when i saw him and i've had a

3502
02:15:41,270 --> 02:15:39,520
pretty good view of the sky when it all

3503
02:15:42,069 --> 02:15:41,280
happened

3504
02:15:43,750 --> 02:15:42,079
so

3505
02:15:45,750 --> 02:15:43,760
point being if you're sitting at home

3506
02:15:47,669 --> 02:15:45,760
watching tv or

3507
02:15:49,270 --> 02:15:47,679
you know sitting on your cell phone or

3508
02:15:51,669 --> 02:15:49,280
even if you do go out and you're just

3509
02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:51,679
you know face down

3510
02:15:55,910 --> 02:15:53,520
into your tablet you're probably not

3511
02:15:57,750 --> 02:15:55,920
going to experience anything like this

3512
02:16:00,709 --> 02:15:57,760
or maybe you will i don't know get

3513
02:16:01,669 --> 02:16:00,719
outside that's all i know

3514
02:16:02,550 --> 02:16:01,679
so

3515
02:16:04,770 --> 02:16:02,560
anyway

3516
02:16:05,910 --> 02:16:04,780
thank you

3517
02:16:08,069 --> 02:16:05,920
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3518
02:16:11,270 --> 02:16:08,079
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3519
02:16:13,430 --> 02:16:11,280
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3520
02:16:15,910 --> 02:16:13,440
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02:16:20,709 --> 02:16:18,639
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3528
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3533
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3534
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i think we have a story that is maybe

3535
02:16:58,469 --> 02:16:56,319
going to pull us back into the ufo world

3536
02:17:02,230 --> 02:16:58,479
a world that we probably both thought we

3537
02:17:04,950 --> 02:17:02,240
escaped from maybe 20 years ago so we'll

3538
02:17:07,429 --> 02:17:04,960
we'll share the story with ryan and

3539
02:17:08,230 --> 02:17:07,439
we'll see what he and his his listeners

3540
02:17:11,030 --> 02:17:08,240
think

3541
02:17:12,950 --> 02:17:11,040
i'm jordan bonaparte i host a show

3542
02:17:16,389 --> 02:17:12,960
called the nighttime podcast which

3543
02:17:19,190 --> 02:17:16,399
covers canadian crime and mysteries and

3544
02:17:21,270 --> 02:17:19,200
ufo stories from across canada you are

3545
02:17:24,230 --> 02:17:21,280
my brother jay and tell us a bit about

3546
02:17:26,549 --> 02:17:24,240
you well i i live in ottawa right now

3547
02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:26,559
and uh play in a band called paragon

3548
02:17:29,990 --> 02:17:28,479
cause so we record a bunch of music and

3549
02:17:32,230 --> 02:17:30,000
all that stuff and then actually work in

3550
02:17:33,429 --> 02:17:32,240
the hospital here in ottawa as well we

3551
02:17:36,150 --> 02:17:33,439
both

3552
02:17:37,990 --> 02:17:36,160
had a ufo experience maybe

3553
02:17:42,389 --> 02:17:38,000
i guess this was probably

3554
02:17:44,230 --> 02:17:42,399
25 years ago in sydney nova scotia and i

3555
02:17:45,589 --> 02:17:44,240
believe i was probably about seven or

3556
02:17:47,750 --> 02:17:45,599
eight years old so that would have put

3557
02:17:49,669 --> 02:17:47,760
it probably late eighties is that when

3558
02:17:53,349 --> 02:17:49,679
you yeah that sounds about right i'm

3559
02:17:55,270 --> 02:17:53,359
guessing i was 11 12 that age yeah

3560
02:17:56,469 --> 02:17:55,280
and it wasn't just us like the way it

3561
02:17:58,549 --> 02:17:56,479
went down is

3562
02:18:00,070 --> 02:17:58,559
and this is one of those things where

3563
02:18:01,750 --> 02:18:00,080
i'm sure we both have a different

3564
02:18:04,230 --> 02:18:01,760
recollection of it but the way i

3565
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:04,240
remember it it was like a school night

3566
02:18:07,589 --> 02:18:06,000
and we were at the top of the street in

3567
02:18:09,509 --> 02:18:07,599
someone's backyard

3568
02:18:10,870 --> 02:18:09,519
in the winter sledding and it was like

3569
02:18:12,549 --> 02:18:10,880
you and i as well as all the

3570
02:18:14,549 --> 02:18:12,559
neighborhood kids like i remember

3571
02:18:16,790 --> 02:18:14,559
everyone being there yeah there's like

3572
02:18:17,910 --> 02:18:16,800
me you and maybe 10 12 other kids like i

3573
02:18:21,990 --> 02:18:17,920
remember

3574
02:18:24,070 --> 02:18:22,000
standing next to who i was with and it

3575
02:18:25,110 --> 02:18:24,080
was the hill that we always went on we

3576
02:18:27,030 --> 02:18:25,120
were there every night in the winter

3577
02:18:29,270 --> 02:18:27,040
sledding in the backyard yeah and the

3578
02:18:31,349 --> 02:18:29,280
way the yard went is like our street was

3579
02:18:33,669 --> 02:18:31,359
kind of a dead-end street kind of built

3580
02:18:35,589 --> 02:18:33,679
onto a hill and when you were sledding

3581
02:18:37,750 --> 02:18:35,599
you were kind of going from the street

3582
02:18:39,669 --> 02:18:37,760
down into like the woods that was you

3583
02:18:41,509 --> 02:18:39,679
know surrounded our dead end street so

3584
02:18:43,509 --> 02:18:41,519
it was yeah there was like a boundary

3585
02:18:46,150 --> 02:18:43,519
where the trees started at the bottom of

3586
02:18:47,990 --> 02:18:46,160
the hill yeah exactly and so again it

3587
02:18:49,910 --> 02:18:48,000
was it was a school night

3588
02:18:51,509 --> 02:18:49,920
sun it couldn't have been that late

3589
02:18:53,509 --> 02:18:51,519
because it was all the neighborhood kids

3590
02:18:56,790 --> 02:18:53,519
that were out but the sun was certainly

3591
02:18:58,469 --> 02:18:56,800
down it was nighttime it was a dark sky

3592
02:18:59,669 --> 02:18:58,479
back like floodlight was on so it was

3593
02:19:01,429 --> 02:18:59,679
late enough that i remember there was a

3594
02:19:03,349 --> 02:19:01,439
flood light yeah illuminating the

3595
02:19:05,190 --> 02:19:03,359
backyard yeah exactly so when you were

3596
02:19:06,950 --> 02:19:05,200
down the hill you were like down in the

3597
02:19:09,190 --> 02:19:06,960
darkness then you would pull your sled

3598
02:19:11,509 --> 02:19:09,200
up the hill up into the lit backyard is

3599
02:19:13,429 --> 02:19:11,519
the way i i recall it and exactly the

3600
02:19:15,669 --> 02:19:13,439
way i i remember it is i slid down the

3601
02:19:17,429 --> 02:19:15,679
hill and i was among the younger kids

3602
02:19:18,950 --> 02:19:17,439
because most of the kids were like a

3603
02:19:20,790 --> 02:19:18,960
year three or four years older than me

3604
02:19:22,790 --> 02:19:20,800
most of them are around your age so i

3605
02:19:24,709 --> 02:19:22,800
remember being down the bottom of the

3606
02:19:26,389 --> 02:19:24,719
hill looking up at everyone kind of

3607
02:19:28,790 --> 02:19:26,399
slowly coming down the hill and whatnot

3608
02:19:30,629 --> 02:19:28,800
sledding and the way i remember it

3609
02:19:31,429 --> 02:19:30,639
happening was

3610
02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:31,439
this

3611
02:19:36,469 --> 02:19:34,479
bizarre sound that almost sounded like

3612
02:19:38,230 --> 02:19:36,479
just every bit of sound getting sucked

3613
02:19:40,629 --> 02:19:38,240
out of the sky and out of the world like

3614
02:19:41,750 --> 02:19:40,639
i remembered like a second of split

3615
02:19:43,110 --> 02:19:41,760
silence

3616
02:19:45,270 --> 02:19:43,120
followed by

3617
02:19:48,070 --> 02:19:45,280
the brightest light that i've ever seen

3618
02:19:50,790 --> 02:19:48,080
like it went from darkness to brighter

3619
02:19:52,710 --> 02:19:50,800
than daylight instantly yeah so the

3620
02:19:55,429 --> 02:19:52,720
weird thing is me and you i don't think

3621
02:19:56,630 --> 02:19:55,439
we talked about this never never like we

3622
02:19:58,630 --> 02:19:56,640
are now now

3623
02:20:00,230 --> 02:19:58,640
no and so like you're telling me that

3624
02:20:02,950 --> 02:20:00,240
story kind of gave me the chills because

3625
02:20:04,469 --> 02:20:02,960
my recollection is i was standing next

3626
02:20:06,550 --> 02:20:04,479
to my friend brian

3627
02:20:08,550 --> 02:20:06,560
and i remem it's weird because it's like

3628
02:20:09,830 --> 02:20:08,560
clear as day i remember me and brian are

3629
02:20:11,349 --> 02:20:09,840
like okay let's go down the hill and

3630
02:20:12,309 --> 02:20:11,359
we're kids are like let's count to five

3631
02:20:14,389 --> 02:20:12,319
and we'll go

3632
02:20:16,389 --> 02:20:14,399
so we counted and we went down the hill

3633
02:20:19,110 --> 02:20:16,399
and i remember us kind of laughing

3634
02:20:21,110 --> 02:20:19,120
and to me what i remember is

3635
02:20:23,670 --> 02:20:21,120
again the trees the

3636
02:20:25,670 --> 02:20:23,680
the woods there's just that sound of the

3637
02:20:28,550 --> 02:20:25,680
outdoors and then all of a sudden it

3638
02:20:31,349 --> 02:20:28,560
just stopped like nothing existed there

3639
02:20:33,510 --> 02:20:31,359
was no sound it wasn't that it was quiet

3640
02:20:34,469 --> 02:20:33,520
is that sound was gone

3641
02:20:37,270 --> 02:20:34,479
and

3642
02:20:39,830 --> 02:20:37,280
to me it felt like slow motion like i

3643
02:20:41,110 --> 02:20:39,840
felt like time stopped and i remember

3644
02:20:43,150 --> 02:20:41,120
standing up

3645
02:20:45,910 --> 02:20:43,160
and then again

3646
02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:45,920
instantaneously within you know

3647
02:20:50,469 --> 02:20:48,640
milliseconds there was this light that

3648
02:20:52,550 --> 02:20:50,479
felt like it was literally

3649
02:20:54,870 --> 02:20:52,560
just a foot above my head that was so

3650
02:20:57,110 --> 02:20:54,880
bright but at the same time i remember

3651
02:20:59,510 --> 02:20:57,120
thinking that it was incredibly bright

3652
02:21:01,990 --> 02:20:59,520
but it wasn't really blinding me like i

3653
02:21:04,790 --> 02:21:02,000
could see the light and it was crazy

3654
02:21:07,190 --> 02:21:04,800
bright and i remember this slow-motion

3655
02:21:09,110 --> 02:21:07,200
feeling i started turning my head to

3656
02:21:11,110 --> 02:21:09,120
look up at the sky because i wanted to

3657
02:21:13,110 --> 02:21:11,120
know what it was and i felt and i spoke

3658
02:21:15,190 --> 02:21:13,120
to this day remember it and it was like

3659
02:21:18,469 --> 02:21:15,200
slow motion and as i looked up what i

3660
02:21:20,230 --> 02:21:18,479
remember is just this crazy light like i

3661
02:21:22,230 --> 02:21:20,240
couldn't see anything

3662
02:21:24,870 --> 02:21:22,240
and then i remember

3663
02:21:26,870 --> 02:21:24,880
it just kind of sucked itself into like

3664
02:21:28,389 --> 02:21:26,880
a ball almost

3665
02:21:29,830 --> 02:21:28,399
and then just like seeing it just kind

3666
02:21:31,590 --> 02:21:29,840
of shoot off

3667
02:21:33,990 --> 02:21:31,600
into the sky

3668
02:21:35,750 --> 02:21:34,000
but not like horizontally like into the

3669
02:21:36,790 --> 02:21:35,760
sky and then just

3670
02:21:39,030 --> 02:21:36,800
go away

3671
02:21:41,910 --> 02:21:39,040
but i could see it like fly off into

3672
02:21:44,790 --> 02:21:41,920
space basically yeah i i have the exact

3673
02:21:46,710 --> 02:21:44,800
same memory i remember when the light

3674
02:21:48,309 --> 02:21:46,720
came and i realized like all of a sudden

3675
02:21:50,070 --> 02:21:48,319
it was incredibly bright i remember kind

3676
02:21:52,070 --> 02:21:50,080
of shielding my eyes

3677
02:21:53,670 --> 02:21:52,080
and i can i almost had this vision burnt

3678
02:21:55,830 --> 02:21:53,680
into my mind of like looking up at the

3679
02:21:58,309 --> 02:21:55,840
hill probably looking for my older

3680
02:22:00,309 --> 02:21:58,319
brother you and i remember seeing all

3681
02:22:01,990 --> 02:22:00,319
the kids kind of just standing there you

3682
02:22:03,830 --> 02:22:02,000
know looking at the sky and down at me

3683
02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:03,840
and i remember like the really hard

3684
02:22:08,469 --> 02:22:06,319
shadow on the ground like every kid had

3685
02:22:09,990 --> 02:22:08,479
like you know like as a photographer if

3686
02:22:12,389 --> 02:22:10,000
you have the flash on you get a really

3687
02:22:14,469 --> 02:22:12,399
nasty shadow i just remember this vision

3688
02:22:15,750 --> 02:22:14,479
of all the kids with their like sleds in

3689
02:22:17,349 --> 02:22:15,760
their hand

3690
02:22:19,670 --> 02:22:17,359
you know with a bright light shining on

3691
02:22:22,710 --> 02:22:19,680
them and at the same thing as what you

3692
02:22:24,950 --> 02:22:22,720
said i remember looking up and as i did

3693
02:22:26,870 --> 02:22:24,960
i almost describe it as like the light

3694
02:22:28,870 --> 02:22:26,880
being sucked into like the vacuum of

3695
02:22:30,469 --> 02:22:28,880
space because it just yeah exactly it

3696
02:22:33,990 --> 02:22:30,479
just that's exactly what it was yeah it

3697
02:22:36,150 --> 02:22:34,000
just got smaller and just went away and

3698
02:22:38,790 --> 02:22:36,160
as it went away the sound of the world

3699
02:22:40,070 --> 02:22:38,800
came back kind of at the same pace

3700
02:22:43,270 --> 02:22:40,080
and i don't know about you but what i

3701
02:22:44,389 --> 02:22:43,280
remember is silence but then once it

3702
02:22:46,469 --> 02:22:44,399
went away

3703
02:22:48,790 --> 02:22:46,479
kids started screaming

3704
02:22:50,870 --> 02:22:48,800
and crying and everybody ran home to

3705
02:22:53,830 --> 02:22:50,880
their parents yeah into their houses

3706
02:22:56,389 --> 02:22:53,840
yeah like it was cray chaos i should ask

3707
02:22:57,429 --> 02:22:56,399
dad about it because i i do remember you

3708
02:22:59,429 --> 02:22:57,439
and i

3709
02:23:01,270 --> 02:22:59,439
and brian and like all the kids just

3710
02:23:02,950 --> 02:23:01,280
running down the street

3711
02:23:05,110 --> 02:23:02,960
freaking out and i don't remember if we

3712
02:23:07,030 --> 02:23:05,120
used the word ufo or like what we

3713
02:23:10,150 --> 02:23:07,040
thought had happened but i do remember

3714
02:23:12,389 --> 02:23:10,160
like running home and like running upset

3715
02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:12,399
and telling dad what had happened

3716
02:23:16,070 --> 02:23:14,080
the other thing i remember though is i

3717
02:23:18,790 --> 02:23:16,080
remember when it happened

3718
02:23:21,030 --> 02:23:18,800
i i was looking towards the woods

3719
02:23:23,510 --> 02:23:21,040
and there was actually i could see i

3720
02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:23,520
remember seeing like a line

3721
02:23:26,550 --> 02:23:25,600
where the it wasn't like a light that

3722
02:23:28,070 --> 02:23:26,560
was

3723
02:23:30,790 --> 02:23:28,080
diffusing and

3724
02:23:32,710 --> 02:23:30,800
it was like a like a like a like a a

3725
02:23:35,349 --> 02:23:32,720
bulb outside i remember seeing a

3726
02:23:37,510 --> 02:23:35,359
distinct line where the light stopped

3727
02:23:39,670 --> 02:23:37,520
and there was darkness beyond it it was

3728
02:23:42,150 --> 02:23:39,680
very very weird like it was light that

3729
02:23:43,990 --> 02:23:42,160
whatever it was it wasn't normal light

3730
02:23:46,630 --> 02:23:44,000
like it was not normal it wasn't a

3731
02:23:48,870 --> 02:23:46,640
spotlight from a helicopter like it was

3732
02:23:51,349 --> 02:23:48,880
abnormal and i'm sure you'd agree like

3733
02:23:53,670 --> 02:23:51,359
yeah even felt it even felt different

3734
02:23:55,510 --> 02:23:53,680
yeah like it felt different yeah the way

3735
02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:55,520
i remember it is

3736
02:24:01,190 --> 02:23:59,200
it did feel like the light was kind of

3737
02:24:03,190 --> 02:24:01,200
in an area around us like there was

3738
02:24:04,790 --> 02:24:03,200
spots like beyond where we were that

3739
02:24:06,710 --> 02:24:04,800
were still dark

3740
02:24:08,630 --> 02:24:06,720
yeah but it wasn't a spotlight like you

3741
02:24:10,389 --> 02:24:08,640
said for one where we lived there would

3742
02:24:12,550 --> 02:24:10,399
never be a helicopter above a shining

3743
02:24:14,389 --> 02:24:12,560
light for kids but

3744
02:24:16,469 --> 02:24:14,399
but it was also a bigger area like it

3745
02:24:18,230 --> 02:24:16,479
would have lit up probably the area of

3746
02:24:21,030 --> 02:24:18,240
like one or two

3747
02:24:23,190 --> 02:24:21,040
you know uh two um

3748
02:24:24,150 --> 02:24:23,200
yards that a house would be sitting on

3749
02:24:26,070 --> 02:24:24,160
yeah

3750
02:24:27,429 --> 02:24:26,080
exactly and i think the other important

3751
02:24:30,230 --> 02:24:27,439
thing is like behind this house the

3752
02:24:32,230 --> 02:24:30,240
woods behind our house is like hundreds

3753
02:24:33,990 --> 02:24:32,240
and hundreds and hundreds of kilometers

3754
02:24:35,750 --> 02:24:34,000
there's nothing else behind it it's not

3755
02:24:37,590 --> 02:24:35,760
like there's a little bit of forest and

3756
02:24:39,349 --> 02:24:37,600
another street like it is the forest

3757
02:24:42,309 --> 02:24:39,359
until you hit water basically yeah the

3758
02:24:44,389 --> 02:24:42,319
ocean eventually you would get exactly

3759
02:24:46,550 --> 02:24:44,399
but and i actually brought this up with

3760
02:24:47,910 --> 02:24:46,560
this guy brian and he won't talk about

3761
02:24:49,349 --> 02:24:47,920
it he's like i don't want to talk about

3762
02:24:52,950 --> 02:24:49,359
i don't want to talk about it he won't

3763
02:24:55,270 --> 02:24:52,960
talk about this um i have no idea why

3764
02:24:57,190 --> 02:24:55,280
it's bizarre um super bizarre but it's a

3765
02:24:58,630 --> 02:24:57,200
it's a weird thing because you know you

3766
02:25:01,270 --> 02:24:58,640
experience that

3767
02:25:03,670 --> 02:25:01,280
and i think you probably agree like

3768
02:25:06,790 --> 02:25:03,680
when people ask me if ufo exists i'm

3769
02:25:08,950 --> 02:25:06,800
like yeah i see like there's no i'm not

3770
02:25:11,590 --> 02:25:08,960
crazy i'm a normal person it is what it

3771
02:25:12,710 --> 02:25:11,600
is it's not there's no other explanation

3772
02:25:14,710 --> 02:25:12,720
like this is

3773
02:25:16,150 --> 02:25:14,720
it was there and it kind of changes your

3774
02:25:17,990 --> 02:25:16,160
your perspective on life and your

3775
02:25:19,990 --> 02:25:18,000
perspective in general because it's

3776
02:25:21,670 --> 02:25:20,000
weird when you know that no one believes

3777
02:25:22,550 --> 02:25:21,680
you but at the same time they're like i

3778
02:25:25,349 --> 02:25:22,560
know

3779
02:25:27,510 --> 02:25:25,359
trust me i feel the exact same way well

3780
02:25:28,790 --> 02:25:27,520
we'll we'll give this story to ryan and

3781
02:25:30,309 --> 02:25:28,800
you never know maybe we'll excite him

3782
02:25:31,910 --> 02:25:30,319
and he'll investigate it and we can

3783
02:25:34,389 --> 02:25:31,920
figure out what the hell happened

3784
02:25:36,790 --> 02:25:34,399
definitely all right jamie well thanks

3785
02:25:38,150 --> 02:25:36,800
for uh for chatting this out with me and

3786
02:25:39,990 --> 02:25:38,160
hopefully ryan can look into it and

3787
02:25:41,830 --> 02:25:40,000
maybe this will even inspire the next

3788
02:25:43,349 --> 02:25:41,840
paragon cause song like you guys should

3789
02:25:45,270 --> 02:25:43,359
do something about this

3790
02:25:46,790 --> 02:25:45,280
it uh it already has i think we may

3791
02:25:48,710 --> 02:25:46,800
right we just you know we're releasing a

3792
02:25:50,070 --> 02:25:48,720
new album this week on next friday

3793
02:25:51,830 --> 02:25:50,080
actually on the 17th

3794
02:25:53,349 --> 02:25:51,840
and um you know if it wasn't for that

3795
02:25:54,550 --> 02:25:53,359
ufo i wouldn't have the towel to play

3796
02:25:55,830 --> 02:25:54,560
the guitar because i'm pretty sure they

3797
02:25:57,590 --> 02:25:55,840
installed that

3798
02:25:59,670 --> 02:25:57,600
so i owe them a lot of money there you

3799
02:26:07,030 --> 02:25:59,680
go well this is perfect jayla thanks for

3800
02:26:10,230 --> 02:26:08,150
hello

3801
02:26:13,190 --> 02:26:10,240
my name is dennis mckenzie

3802
02:26:14,230 --> 02:26:13,200
i'm 52 years old and live in st louis

3803
02:26:16,389 --> 02:26:14,240
missouri

3804
02:26:17,670 --> 02:26:16,399
i was born here but grew up in western

3805
02:26:19,349 --> 02:26:17,680
michigan

3806
02:26:21,910 --> 02:26:19,359
my family and i have been living in st

3807
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:21,920
louis since about 2008.

3808
02:26:26,070 --> 02:26:24,160
in 2014

3809
02:26:28,550 --> 02:26:26,080
i experienced the sighting

3810
02:26:30,550 --> 02:26:28,560
i didn't share it with anyone no reason

3811
02:26:32,469 --> 02:26:30,560
i just

3812
02:26:34,469 --> 02:26:32,479
didn't report it it was

3813
02:26:37,510 --> 02:26:34,479
strange but uneventful

3814
02:26:39,190 --> 02:26:37,520
i mentioned it to my wife but uh

3815
02:26:41,670 --> 02:26:39,200
yeah i didn't file it with the folks

3816
02:26:42,870 --> 02:26:41,680
that tracked these things for whatever

3817
02:26:44,870 --> 02:26:42,880
reason

3818
02:26:48,230 --> 02:26:44,880
uh but recently i've been enjoying

3819
02:26:51,190 --> 02:26:48,240
ryan's and some other paranormal and ufo

3820
02:26:52,870 --> 02:26:51,200
podcasts and listening to accounts of

3821
02:26:56,550 --> 02:26:52,880
people who've

3822
02:27:00,070 --> 02:26:56,560
seen the the triangle-shaped lights

3823
02:27:03,590 --> 02:27:00,080
it got me thinking and led me to search

3824
02:27:05,510 --> 02:27:03,600
for any reports of incidents matching

3825
02:27:08,870 --> 02:27:05,520
what i had seen

3826
02:27:11,510 --> 02:27:08,880
back around 2013 or 2014.

3827
02:27:14,070 --> 02:27:11,520
so i got on the google machine and

3828
02:27:14,790 --> 02:27:14,080
started poking around and lo and behold

3829
02:27:29,110 --> 02:27:14,800
i

3830
02:27:31,110 --> 02:27:29,120
o'fallon and st peters are just one

3831
02:27:33,110 --> 02:27:31,120
giant suburb

3832
02:27:35,349 --> 02:27:33,120
it's one massive neighborhood with about

3833
02:27:37,590 --> 02:27:35,359
80 000 people

3834
02:27:39,510 --> 02:27:37,600
i read the report and it matched exactly

3835
02:27:41,429 --> 02:27:39,520
what i saw it

3836
02:27:42,870 --> 02:27:41,439
kind of freaked me out it was i think a

3837
02:27:45,190 --> 02:27:42,880
high school kid

3838
02:27:48,309 --> 02:27:45,200
and he had seen it and was talking about

3839
02:27:51,030 --> 02:27:48,319
it in school and had

3840
02:27:53,429 --> 02:27:51,040
a teacher had seen it too and the area

3841
02:27:55,190 --> 02:27:53,439
where they were kind of matched it

3842
02:27:57,270 --> 02:27:55,200
sinked to what

3843
02:27:59,750 --> 02:27:57,280
i had seen

3844
02:28:02,950 --> 02:27:59,760
uh after reading the report i decided

3845
02:28:05,270 --> 02:28:02,960
that i'd go on to uh ryan's website and

3846
02:28:07,190 --> 02:28:05,280
summarize my sighting

3847
02:28:08,550 --> 02:28:07,200
he asked me to share the story so here

3848
02:28:10,710 --> 02:28:08,560
it goes

3849
02:28:12,950 --> 02:28:10,720
i'm a manufacturing engineer and i've

3850
02:28:14,230 --> 02:28:12,960
worked in factories my entire

3851
02:28:16,389 --> 02:28:14,240
career

3852
02:28:18,469 --> 02:28:16,399
oftentimes i get called into plants

3853
02:28:19,510 --> 02:28:18,479
after normal business hours which is why

3854
02:28:21,429 --> 02:28:19,520
i was

3855
02:28:22,710 --> 02:28:21,439
driving down highway k about two in the

3856
02:28:25,190 --> 02:28:22,720
morning

3857
02:28:27,030 --> 02:28:25,200
so at the date i

3858
02:28:29,910 --> 02:28:27,040
narrowed down based on reading that

3859
02:28:32,070 --> 02:28:29,920
other report and that was filed june 12

3860
02:28:34,070 --> 02:28:32,080
2014.

3861
02:28:35,910 --> 02:28:34,080
so i was called into the plant for some

3862
02:28:38,070 --> 02:28:35,920
issue that i don't remember specifically

3863
02:28:40,230 --> 02:28:38,080
what it was

3864
02:28:42,070 --> 02:28:40,240
but i was driving on highway k in

3865
02:28:46,070 --> 02:28:42,080
o'fallon missouri

3866
02:28:48,469 --> 02:28:46,080
highway k is an extremely busy road

3867
02:28:51,270 --> 02:28:48,479
the the entirety of this

3868
02:28:53,590 --> 02:28:51,280
road is well lit full of major shopping

3869
02:28:56,230 --> 02:28:53,600
centers grocery stores big box home

3870
02:28:59,429 --> 02:28:56,240
improvement gas stations

3871
02:29:02,150 --> 02:28:59,439
nothing about this is rural it's a very

3872
02:29:03,990 --> 02:29:02,160
densely or very densely populated very

3873
02:29:06,710 --> 02:29:04,000
active place

3874
02:29:10,870 --> 02:29:06,720
at 2 30 in the morning i was pretty much

3875
02:29:13,270 --> 02:29:10,880
the only one on this section of it

3876
02:29:15,270 --> 02:29:13,280
you know most things are closed

3877
02:29:18,630 --> 02:29:15,280
it was a pleasant evening

3878
02:29:21,030 --> 02:29:18,640
i remember some clouds in the sky

3879
02:29:23,750 --> 02:29:21,040
and i was heading south on k

3880
02:29:26,389 --> 02:29:23,760
and had just passed a road called laura

3881
02:29:28,630 --> 02:29:26,399
hill and i was between laura hill and

3882
02:29:32,790 --> 02:29:28,640
mexico

3883
02:29:34,389 --> 02:29:32,800
and i noticed in the sky to my right

3884
02:29:36,790 --> 02:29:34,399
a triangle

3885
02:29:38,230 --> 02:29:36,800
of white lights moving steadily through

3886
02:29:40,070 --> 02:29:38,240
the air

3887
02:29:42,469 --> 02:29:40,080
in my first thought there was a

3888
02:29:45,349 --> 02:29:42,479
formation of planes

3889
02:29:46,309 --> 02:29:45,359
i didn't see an outline of any craft

3890
02:29:47,990 --> 02:29:46,319
just

3891
02:29:50,550 --> 02:29:48,000
bright white lights

3892
02:29:51,590 --> 02:29:50,560
forming an equilateral triangle there

3893
02:29:54,550 --> 02:29:51,600
were no

3894
02:29:56,230 --> 02:29:54,560
no lights at the base just the sides

3895
02:29:59,910 --> 02:29:56,240
and it was moving

3896
02:30:01,990 --> 02:29:59,920
due west from east to west across k

3897
02:30:04,389 --> 02:30:02,000
in the direction it was like arrowhead

3898
02:30:09,590 --> 02:30:07,270
i heard absolutely nothing

3899
02:30:12,550 --> 02:30:09,600
completely silence

3900
02:30:14,230 --> 02:30:12,560
i had my radio was off my windows were

3901
02:30:16,950 --> 02:30:14,240
down

3902
02:30:18,389 --> 02:30:16,960
i couldn't hear a thing i looked for

3903
02:30:21,110 --> 02:30:18,399
blinking lights

3904
02:30:27,590 --> 02:30:25,110
aircraft wing tips or tail lights

3905
02:30:29,750 --> 02:30:27,600
i didn't see anything that a

3906
02:30:32,150 --> 02:30:29,760
identifiable aircraft

3907
02:30:35,110 --> 02:30:32,160
would have had on it the pace of this

3908
02:30:37,190 --> 02:30:35,120
whatever this was was pretty steady

3909
02:30:42,150 --> 02:30:37,200
moving about as fast as a traffic

3910
02:30:43,590 --> 02:30:42,160
helicopter so not real fast not hovering

3911
02:30:45,030 --> 02:30:43,600
and it didn't appear to be that high

3912
02:30:47,670 --> 02:30:45,040
because there were some clouds and the

3913
02:30:49,830 --> 02:30:47,680
lights were very clear

3914
02:30:51,670 --> 02:30:49,840
it was moving east to west

3915
02:30:53,270 --> 02:30:51,680
i leaned over the steering wheel as i

3916
02:30:57,590 --> 02:30:53,280
drove

3917
02:31:00,790 --> 02:30:59,190
and i you know i'm thinking to myself

3918
02:31:03,510 --> 02:31:00,800
holy i'm

3919
02:31:04,469 --> 02:31:03,520
seeing a ufo huh

3920
02:31:07,349 --> 02:31:04,479
um

3921
02:31:09,590 --> 02:31:07,359
so after it had moved west and was

3922
02:31:11,990 --> 02:31:09,600
directly to my left i still heard

3923
02:31:15,670 --> 02:31:12,000
absolutely nothing

3924
02:31:18,070 --> 02:31:15,680
not too long after it crossed over k

3925
02:31:21,830 --> 02:31:18,080
these things disappeared

3926
02:31:23,429 --> 02:31:21,840
upward into the sky and it wasn't a

3927
02:31:25,670 --> 02:31:23,439
smooth

3928
02:31:27,510 --> 02:31:25,680
turn or drift

3929
02:31:28,950 --> 02:31:27,520
into the clouds

3930
02:31:30,550 --> 02:31:28,960
these things

3931
02:31:31,990 --> 02:31:30,560
rocketed upward

3932
02:31:33,429 --> 02:31:32,000
i mean it was

3933
02:31:35,910 --> 02:31:33,439
immediate

3934
02:31:38,710 --> 02:31:35,920
and the the thing that that really

3935
02:31:42,950 --> 02:31:38,720
struck me is that i heard nothing

3936
02:31:45,110 --> 02:31:42,960
in this area because of boeing um

3937
02:31:47,830 --> 02:31:45,120
you know we have a lot of f-18 traffic

3938
02:31:50,230 --> 02:31:47,840
we see f-15s

3939
02:31:51,670 --> 02:31:50,240
by the airport these guys do touch and

3940
02:31:53,670 --> 02:31:51,680
goes where they touch the runway and

3941
02:31:54,870 --> 02:31:53,680
just explode damn near vertically into

3942
02:31:57,510 --> 02:31:54,880
the sky

3943
02:31:59,429 --> 02:31:57,520
and when a when a military aircraft is

3944
02:32:00,630 --> 02:31:59,439
doing that it is you hear it in your

3945
02:32:02,070 --> 02:32:00,640
bones

3946
02:32:04,070 --> 02:32:02,080
this was

3947
02:32:07,270 --> 02:32:04,080
seemed to be as quick as that but there

3948
02:32:10,710 --> 02:32:07,280
was absolutely no sound

3949
02:32:13,270 --> 02:32:10,720
the report that was filed by this other

3950
02:32:14,950 --> 02:32:13,280
individual said that

3951
02:32:17,030 --> 02:32:14,960
they kind of noted a humming or

3952
02:32:20,870 --> 02:32:17,040
throbbing sensation

3953
02:32:24,630 --> 02:32:20,880
i didn't hear even that but i was also

3954
02:32:26,070 --> 02:32:24,640
driving in a pickup truck so who knows

3955
02:32:29,910 --> 02:32:26,080
um

3956
02:32:31,750 --> 02:32:29,920
my thoughts on what it is or what it was

3957
02:32:34,870 --> 02:32:31,760
i think it'd be really neat if it were

3958
02:32:36,630 --> 02:32:34,880
aliens i would love that i'm

3959
02:32:38,630 --> 02:32:36,640
desperately hoping to

3960
02:32:40,870 --> 02:32:38,640
actually have a video of contact or see

3961
02:32:41,990 --> 02:32:40,880
something like that but

3962
02:32:44,950 --> 02:32:42,000
i think

3963
02:32:46,550 --> 02:32:44,960
ours

3964
02:32:48,469 --> 02:32:46,560
um

3965
02:32:51,750 --> 02:32:48,479
whatever it is i

3966
02:32:54,710 --> 02:32:51,760
the tech has got to be crazy like noise

3967
02:32:56,870 --> 02:32:54,720
canceling technology or

3968
02:32:59,429 --> 02:32:56,880
even more badass would be a gravity

3969
02:33:02,469 --> 02:32:59,439
polarizer how cool would that be

3970
02:33:04,550 --> 02:33:02,479
um but i

3971
02:33:06,790 --> 02:33:04,560
don't know that it was alien i'd you

3972
02:33:08,389 --> 02:33:06,800
know who knows that so many people have

3973
02:33:10,469 --> 02:33:08,399
seen these triangle lights that's what's

3974
02:33:13,030 --> 02:33:10,479
got me thinking that

3975
02:33:15,030 --> 02:33:13,040
it's something that

3976
02:33:16,790 --> 02:33:15,040
we're playing with

3977
02:33:18,870 --> 02:33:16,800
um

3978
02:33:21,030 --> 02:33:18,880
you know i don't think that we are the

3979
02:33:23,349 --> 02:33:21,040
only ones in the universe but

3980
02:33:25,429 --> 02:33:23,359
like fermi said you know where is

3981
02:33:27,270 --> 02:33:25,439
everybody

3982
02:33:29,230 --> 02:33:27,280
anyway the sighting intrigued me didn't

3983
02:33:30,790 --> 02:33:29,240
really frighten me um

3984
02:33:32,389 --> 02:33:30,800
[Music]

3985
02:33:33,510 --> 02:33:32,399
it was just very interesting i think

3986
02:33:35,910 --> 02:33:33,520
about it

3987
02:33:38,150 --> 02:33:35,920
all the time and every time i i listen

3988
02:33:40,790 --> 02:33:38,160
to a podcast or hear somebody or see

3989
02:33:42,950 --> 02:33:40,800
videos of the phoenix lights it's

3990
02:33:45,190 --> 02:33:42,960
you know i'm really

3991
02:33:48,070 --> 02:33:45,200
what the hell was that

3992
02:33:50,710 --> 02:33:48,080
that's my story

3993
02:33:54,710 --> 02:33:50,720
my name is melissa and

3994
02:33:55,910 --> 02:33:54,720
back on october 3rd of 1995

3995
02:33:58,309 --> 02:33:55,920
i had

3996
02:33:59,510 --> 02:33:58,319
what i can only describe as

3997
02:34:03,990 --> 02:33:59,520
an

3998
02:34:06,150 --> 02:34:04,000
unidentified flying object incident

3999
02:34:08,389 --> 02:34:06,160
i remember it to be specifically october

4000
02:34:11,190 --> 02:34:08,399
3rd of 1995 because

4001
02:34:13,349 --> 02:34:11,200
it was a day that i was moving from

4002
02:34:15,429 --> 02:34:13,359
florida to kansas

4003
02:34:17,990 --> 02:34:15,439
after my freshman year of college

4004
02:34:20,630 --> 02:34:18,000
and it was my mother my stepfather and i

4005
02:34:22,550 --> 02:34:20,640
in a u-haul van that i had rented

4006
02:34:24,309 --> 02:34:22,560
the reason i know it was october 3rd is

4007
02:34:26,469 --> 02:34:24,319
because i remember on our way back

4008
02:34:27,429 --> 02:34:26,479
listening and hearing the o.j simpson

4009
02:34:30,230 --> 02:34:27,439
verdict

4010
02:34:32,790 --> 02:34:30,240
so i was able to determine that it was

4011
02:34:35,190 --> 02:34:32,800
october 3rd of 1995.

4012
02:34:37,110 --> 02:34:35,200
anyway we were driving uh one straight

4013
02:34:39,750 --> 02:34:37,120
shot which is about 25 hours and we were

4014
02:34:42,790 --> 02:34:39,760
halfway through roughly about 14 hour

4015
02:34:45,429 --> 02:34:42,800
into the dr 14 hour into the drive

4016
02:34:47,349 --> 02:34:45,439
and we were east of st louis i'm gonna

4017
02:34:49,030 --> 02:34:47,359
say we're at least an hour maybe a

4018
02:34:50,309 --> 02:34:49,040
little bit more outside of st louis

4019
02:34:53,429 --> 02:34:50,319
missouri

4020
02:34:55,429 --> 02:34:53,439
it was a very very dark night um

4021
02:34:57,510 --> 02:34:55,439
there wasn't a lot of traffic because it

4022
02:34:59,429 --> 02:34:57,520
was a weekday night in october not a lot

4023
02:35:00,469 --> 02:34:59,439
of summer travelers or anything of that

4024
02:35:02,150 --> 02:35:00,479
sort

4025
02:35:04,230 --> 02:35:02,160
my stepfather was driving the u-haul my

4026
02:35:05,590 --> 02:35:04,240
mother was in the middle and i was on

4027
02:35:06,870 --> 02:35:05,600
the passenger side looking out the

4028
02:35:08,469 --> 02:35:06,880
window

4029
02:35:10,309 --> 02:35:08,479
and i was just kind of looking out the

4030
02:35:14,070 --> 02:35:10,319
window

4031
02:35:15,670 --> 02:35:14,080
not really necessarily pain to anything

4032
02:35:16,469 --> 02:35:15,680
in particular

4033
02:35:18,950 --> 02:35:16,479
and

4034
02:35:20,309 --> 02:35:18,960
these lights in the sky kind of caught

4035
02:35:21,110 --> 02:35:20,319
my eye

4036
02:35:23,110 --> 02:35:21,120
and

4037
02:35:24,550 --> 02:35:23,120
at first you know you kind of readjust

4038
02:35:26,630 --> 02:35:24,560
your eyes a little bit and try to figure

4039
02:35:27,750 --> 02:35:26,640
out exactly what you're seeing

4040
02:35:30,870 --> 02:35:27,760
but

4041
02:35:31,750 --> 02:35:30,880
i saw distinctly like three

4042
02:35:33,510 --> 02:35:31,760
and

4043
02:35:35,110 --> 02:35:33,520
the reason they caught my eye is they

4044
02:35:37,670 --> 02:35:35,120
weren't moving

4045
02:35:39,429 --> 02:35:37,680
um but then

4046
02:35:43,190 --> 02:35:39,439
one would move

4047
02:35:44,550 --> 02:35:43,200
really slowly and then another one

4048
02:35:45,870 --> 02:35:44,560
would move

4049
02:35:48,389 --> 02:35:45,880
it was almost like this kind of

4050
02:35:50,389 --> 02:35:48,399
choreographed movement that was going on

4051
02:35:52,790 --> 02:35:50,399
between the three

4052
02:35:54,469 --> 02:35:52,800
that i can't remember how many miles we

4053
02:35:57,349 --> 02:35:54,479
would have been we were far enough away

4054
02:35:59,110 --> 02:35:57,359
where i watched this for a while

4055
02:36:00,630 --> 02:35:59,120
and i'm watching it and another thing

4056
02:36:02,469 --> 02:36:00,640
that struck me is they were perfectly

4057
02:36:07,030 --> 02:36:02,479
spaced apart

4058
02:36:09,030 --> 02:36:07,040
the lighting on it was kind of sporadic

4059
02:36:11,190 --> 02:36:09,040
it was it was like

4060
02:36:12,950 --> 02:36:11,200
you know blinking lights but but not

4061
02:36:14,790 --> 02:36:12,960
like a pulsating light that you normally

4062
02:36:15,990 --> 02:36:14,800
see on a jet

4063
02:36:17,270 --> 02:36:16,000
um

4064
02:36:19,429 --> 02:36:17,280
and

4065
02:36:22,309 --> 02:36:19,439
they were

4066
02:36:24,790 --> 02:36:22,319
like i said perfectly spaced apart but

4067
02:36:26,870 --> 02:36:24,800
they would sometimes move at the exact

4068
02:36:27,670 --> 02:36:26,880
same speed together

4069
02:36:30,150 --> 02:36:27,680
um

4070
02:36:32,150 --> 02:36:30,160
or sometimes one would move and the

4071
02:36:35,190 --> 02:36:32,160
other one would move and then once in a

4072
02:36:36,870 --> 02:36:35,200
while one would just dim completely

4073
02:36:38,950 --> 02:36:36,880
and be gone

4074
02:36:40,790 --> 02:36:38,960
and then i looked and it would be in a

4075
02:36:42,710 --> 02:36:40,800
different location

4076
02:36:44,070 --> 02:36:42,720
so i'm watching this for a while and i'm

4077
02:36:45,910 --> 02:36:44,080
sitting there in my head trying to

4078
02:36:48,389 --> 02:36:45,920
decide like do i tell my stepfather what

4079
02:36:49,910 --> 02:36:48,399
i'm saying because this is really odd

4080
02:36:52,230 --> 02:36:49,920
and i remember being really nervous to

4081
02:36:54,230 --> 02:36:52,240
tell him because he's one of those you

4082
02:36:55,910 --> 02:36:54,240
know very skeptical people

4083
02:36:58,790 --> 02:36:55,920
he also was someone that has his pilot's

4084
02:37:00,230 --> 02:36:58,800
license and he was uh in the air force

4085
02:37:01,110 --> 02:37:00,240
reserves

4086
02:37:02,469 --> 02:37:01,120
so

4087
02:37:04,950 --> 02:37:02,479
i was like oh he's probably going to

4088
02:37:07,830 --> 02:37:04,960
just kind of dismiss this but i kept

4089
02:37:09,990 --> 02:37:07,840
watching it but as i watched it also it

4090
02:37:12,230 --> 02:37:10,000
was like more lights appeared

4091
02:37:14,389 --> 02:37:12,240
then i noticed there was one

4092
02:37:17,110 --> 02:37:14,399
across the interstate on the other side

4093
02:37:19,750 --> 02:37:17,120
of us and so at this point it's like

4094
02:37:21,830 --> 02:37:19,760
it's almost like they're all around

4095
02:37:23,110 --> 02:37:21,840
and i don't recall how many there were

4096
02:37:24,790 --> 02:37:23,120
um but

4097
02:37:25,990 --> 02:37:24,800
as i said they were perfectly spaced

4098
02:37:26,870 --> 02:37:26,000
apart

4099
02:37:28,710 --> 02:37:26,880
and

4100
02:37:30,630 --> 02:37:28,720
the way they were moving it was almost

4101
02:37:34,550 --> 02:37:30,640
like there was a communication going on

4102
02:37:36,150 --> 02:37:34,560
between them um and they they moved

4103
02:37:37,670 --> 02:37:36,160
you know as i would describe today very

4104
02:37:38,630 --> 02:37:37,680
similar to a drone

4105
02:37:39,590 --> 02:37:38,640
i

4106
02:37:41,270 --> 02:37:39,600
feel

4107
02:37:43,110 --> 02:37:41,280
that it you know they were they'd be

4108
02:37:44,469 --> 02:37:43,120
stopped for

4109
02:37:47,030 --> 02:37:44,479
for a while

4110
02:37:49,590 --> 02:37:47,040
and then one would move and so certainly

4111
02:37:51,670 --> 02:37:49,600
back in 1995 there was nothing that

4112
02:37:53,750 --> 02:37:51,680
existed to my knowledge at least

4113
02:37:54,710 --> 02:37:53,760
um that could do this

4114
02:37:56,389 --> 02:37:54,720
so

4115
02:37:57,990 --> 02:37:56,399
i don't remember how long i was watching

4116
02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:58,000
this several minutes if not maybe a

4117
02:38:02,710 --> 02:38:01,040
little bit more and um i finally told my

4118
02:38:05,510 --> 02:38:02,720
stepfather i said

4119
02:38:07,910 --> 02:38:05,520
do you see these lights

4120
02:38:10,389 --> 02:38:07,920
and i think he was noticing them too and

4121
02:38:12,389 --> 02:38:10,399
he didn't want to say anything

4122
02:38:13,349 --> 02:38:12,399
and he's like yeah i've been watching

4123
02:38:19,030 --> 02:38:13,359
this

4124
02:38:21,030 --> 02:38:19,040
and he said

4125
02:38:23,510 --> 02:38:21,040
i honestly can't tell you

4126
02:38:25,429 --> 02:38:23,520
i don't know what this is

4127
02:38:26,950 --> 02:38:25,439
and um

4128
02:38:29,590 --> 02:38:26,960
you know he was driving so he had to

4129
02:38:31,270 --> 02:38:29,600
kind of pay attention to the road

4130
02:38:33,750 --> 02:38:31,280
you know

4131
02:38:36,630 --> 02:38:33,760
we just didn't really say a lot because

4132
02:38:38,230 --> 02:38:36,640
we were more just in awe and

4133
02:38:40,469 --> 02:38:38,240
trying to

4134
02:38:41,750 --> 02:38:40,479
comprehend what we were witnessing

4135
02:38:43,910 --> 02:38:41,760
and i think my mother was a little more

4136
02:38:45,429 --> 02:38:43,920
freaked out by it

4137
02:38:46,710 --> 02:38:45,439
um

4138
02:38:48,230 --> 02:38:46,720
i don't

4139
02:38:49,670 --> 02:38:48,240
i we definitely didn't hear any noise

4140
02:38:51,670 --> 02:38:49,680
but the reason we didn't hear any noise

4141
02:38:53,429 --> 02:38:51,680
also is we were driving so

4142
02:38:54,790 --> 02:38:53,439
the the sound of our vehicle was loud

4143
02:38:56,870 --> 02:38:54,800
enough to where i wouldn't know if there

4144
02:38:58,230 --> 02:38:56,880
was any noise associated with with what

4145
02:39:01,830 --> 02:38:58,240
we saw

4146
02:39:04,550 --> 02:39:01,840
um but we would you know we got like

4147
02:39:06,150 --> 02:39:04,560
when i say closer and closer

4148
02:39:07,510 --> 02:39:06,160
we saw them for such a long period of

4149
02:39:08,630 --> 02:39:07,520
time it was almost like they were moving

4150
02:39:09,830 --> 02:39:08,640
with us i'm not saying they were

4151
02:39:10,950 --> 02:39:09,840
following us or anything i'm just saying

4152
02:39:13,750 --> 02:39:10,960
it was like they were kind of moving

4153
02:39:15,990 --> 02:39:13,760
along the same pattern or the same um

4154
02:39:17,429 --> 02:39:16,000
distance along with us because

4155
02:39:19,910 --> 02:39:17,439
it felt like we watched this for

4156
02:39:22,469 --> 02:39:19,920
probably 20 minutes or so

4157
02:39:24,870 --> 02:39:22,479
and then as we kind of got outside and

4158
02:39:26,710 --> 02:39:24,880
closer to st louis and you started to

4159
02:39:29,110 --> 02:39:26,720
see kind of the city lights or at least

4160
02:39:32,230 --> 02:39:29,120
the you know the the

4161
02:39:34,070 --> 02:39:32,240
the reflection in the sky

4162
02:39:35,190 --> 02:39:34,080
they just disappeared

4163
02:39:36,469 --> 02:39:35,200
and

4164
02:39:37,750 --> 02:39:36,479
that was it

4165
02:39:41,590 --> 02:39:37,760
um

4166
02:39:42,870 --> 02:39:41,600
we never really talked about it we just

4167
02:39:45,190 --> 02:39:42,880
just kind of gave each other a look and

4168
02:39:47,349 --> 02:39:45,200
just said i don't know what that is i

4169
02:39:49,590 --> 02:39:47,359
just have no idea what that is

4170
02:39:52,150 --> 02:39:49,600
and we're used to very dark nights and

4171
02:39:53,590 --> 02:39:52,160
skies in kansas and you know we've seen

4172
02:39:55,750 --> 02:39:53,600
a lot of meteor showers and things of

4173
02:39:58,790 --> 02:39:55,760
that sort we just couldn't put a

4174
02:39:59,830 --> 02:39:58,800
placement to what it was at all

4175
02:40:00,790 --> 02:39:59,840
so

4176
02:40:02,950 --> 02:40:00,800
that

4177
02:40:06,389 --> 02:40:02,960
was kind of my my

4178
02:40:08,469 --> 02:40:06,399
one very v very vivid

4179
02:40:11,030 --> 02:40:08,479
incident with with an unidentified

4180
02:40:13,270 --> 02:40:11,040
flying object and the reason again is

4181
02:40:14,710 --> 02:40:13,280
there was multiple um

4182
02:40:17,190 --> 02:40:14,720
how many there ultimately were was

4183
02:40:18,790 --> 02:40:17,200
probably upwards of five

4184
02:40:20,790 --> 02:40:18,800
like i said they they seem to have made

4185
02:40:22,389 --> 02:40:20,800
like a formation of some sort

4186
02:40:24,230 --> 02:40:22,399
they were very slow

4187
02:40:25,349 --> 02:40:24,240
um they weren't moving at any high rate

4188
02:40:27,190 --> 02:40:25,359
of speed

4189
02:40:28,710 --> 02:40:27,200
but then they would disappear or at

4190
02:40:30,710 --> 02:40:28,720
least the lights would be off and it was

4191
02:40:32,150 --> 02:40:30,720
like they were gone and then all of a

4192
02:40:33,830 --> 02:40:32,160
sudden i'd see it

4193
02:40:35,429 --> 02:40:33,840
what i think was the same one appear in

4194
02:40:36,150 --> 02:40:35,439
another location

4195
02:40:39,270 --> 02:40:36,160
so

4196
02:40:40,389 --> 02:40:39,280
there was kind of that going on too

4197
02:40:42,950 --> 02:40:40,399
so

4198
02:40:44,950 --> 02:40:42,960
how did it make me feel as far as

4199
02:40:48,469 --> 02:40:44,960
the whole experience you know

4200
02:40:50,710 --> 02:40:48,479
i mean looking back out on it um you

4201
02:40:51,590 --> 02:40:50,720
know i

4202
02:41:05,429 --> 02:40:51,600
i

4203
02:41:07,510 --> 02:41:05,439
but

4204
02:41:09,110 --> 02:41:07,520
a couple years ago i decided to tell my

4205
02:41:10,790 --> 02:41:09,120
nephew who is a

4206
02:41:15,270 --> 02:41:10,800
air force pilot

4207
02:41:18,790 --> 02:41:15,280
years and is a very high ranking

4208
02:41:20,630 --> 02:41:18,800
security he's been to lots of training

4209
02:41:22,550 --> 02:41:20,640
lots of very high-end training that that

4210
02:41:24,230 --> 02:41:22,560
i probably can't even speak to

4211
02:41:27,910 --> 02:41:24,240
so

4212
02:41:30,389 --> 02:41:27,920
he probably has seen a few things

4213
02:41:32,230 --> 02:41:30,399
though he won't admit it but

4214
02:41:35,670 --> 02:41:32,240
i will say that i

4215
02:41:38,070 --> 02:41:35,680
told him about this incident and i said

4216
02:41:40,950 --> 02:41:38,080
here's what i saw

4217
02:41:43,030 --> 02:41:40,960
you know what do you make of this and he

4218
02:41:47,349 --> 02:41:43,040
said to me that he had absolutely no

4219
02:41:55,590 --> 02:41:51,510
he didn't doubt it and he said that

4220
02:41:56,830 --> 02:41:55,600
the one thing to keep in mind he said is

4221
02:42:05,830 --> 02:41:56,840
that

4222
02:42:08,070 --> 02:42:05,840
imagination

4223
02:42:10,870 --> 02:42:08,080
um so sometimes what maybe i was seeing

4224
02:42:12,469 --> 02:42:10,880
in 1995 is maybe what's available today

4225
02:42:13,910 --> 02:42:12,479
i.e drones

4226
02:42:17,030 --> 02:42:13,920
um

4227
02:42:18,230 --> 02:42:17,040
that's kind of how he explained it now

4228
02:42:21,349 --> 02:42:18,240
of course he didn't see it he doesn't

4229
02:42:23,190 --> 02:42:21,359
know it but he did say that there's

4230
02:42:24,870 --> 02:42:23,200
there is

4231
02:42:27,510 --> 02:42:24,880
aircraft that exists that would blow our

4232
02:42:29,110 --> 02:42:27,520
minds away so that was kind of

4233
02:42:30,550 --> 02:42:29,120
interesting to me and it was also

4234
02:42:32,230 --> 02:42:30,560
interesting to me that he didn't dismiss

4235
02:42:34,950 --> 02:42:32,240
completely dismiss or deny what i said

4236
02:42:38,230 --> 02:42:34,960
in fact if anything he validated it

4237
02:42:42,550 --> 02:42:38,240
so that's kind of reassuring and um

4238
02:42:46,950 --> 02:42:44,309
i've always been into aviation and

4239
02:42:48,469 --> 02:42:46,960
astronomy especially aviation but in

4240
02:42:50,550 --> 02:42:48,479
either case i've always been looking up

4241
02:42:52,309 --> 02:42:50,560
at the sky and observing things and i

4242
02:42:54,469 --> 02:42:52,319
feel very privileged to have seen

4243
02:42:56,710 --> 02:42:54,479
something as crazy as this i also

4244
02:42:59,030 --> 02:42:56,720
haven't seen any reports of sightings

4245
02:43:00,870 --> 02:42:59,040
similar to mine over the past 15 years

4246
02:43:02,630 --> 02:43:00,880
so whatever it was that i saw it's not

4247
02:43:04,790 --> 02:43:02,640
happening anymore so let me start by

4248
02:43:07,030 --> 02:43:04,800
giving you the setting it was late 90s

4249
02:43:09,270 --> 02:43:07,040
i'm pretty sure it was 1999 but it could

4250
02:43:11,510 --> 02:43:09,280
have been early 2000 as well so there

4251
02:43:12,950 --> 02:43:11,520
were no smartphones easily available i

4252
02:43:15,110 --> 02:43:12,960
didn't have anything in my pocket to

4253
02:43:17,190 --> 02:43:15,120
film with like the nearest camera was

4254
02:43:19,590 --> 02:43:17,200
probably 15 minutes away and didn't even

4255
02:43:21,590 --> 02:43:19,600
know if there was tape for it or not so

4256
02:43:23,510 --> 02:43:21,600
i could not record it all i have is my

4257
02:43:25,349 --> 02:43:23,520
memory this also happened in a populated

4258
02:43:27,270 --> 02:43:25,359
area which prompted me to think that

4259
02:43:29,110 --> 02:43:27,280
other people must have seen it but there

4260
02:43:31,349 --> 02:43:29,120
was no one around me at the time it was

4261
02:43:33,270 --> 02:43:31,359
my grandmother's backyard and everybody

4262
02:43:34,790 --> 02:43:33,280
was busy so

4263
02:43:36,389 --> 02:43:34,800
pretty much if you want to make the case

4264
02:43:38,389 --> 02:43:36,399
that i'm crazy

4265
02:43:40,230 --> 02:43:38,399
there's some evidence for you it was 11

4266
02:43:41,670 --> 02:43:40,240
a.m and everybody in my family was

4267
02:43:43,190 --> 02:43:41,680
getting ready to go out on a family

4268
02:43:45,110 --> 02:43:43,200
lunch i was just hanging out my

4269
02:43:46,710 --> 02:43:45,120
grandmother's backyard looking at the

4270
02:43:49,190 --> 02:43:46,720
sky which is pretty normal maybe

4271
02:43:51,429 --> 02:43:49,200
expecting the cargo 727 that usually

4272
02:43:53,349 --> 02:43:51,439
went by at that time when i suddenly

4273
02:43:56,230 --> 02:43:53,359
noticed this weird

4274
02:43:58,150 --> 02:43:56,240
black triangle now it was getting kind

4275
02:43:59,910 --> 02:43:58,160
of cloudy uh there was still good

4276
02:44:01,190 --> 02:43:59,920
visibility but you know you could tell

4277
02:44:03,030 --> 02:44:01,200
that later on that day probably there

4278
02:44:05,590 --> 02:44:03,040
was going to be some rain so there was a

4279
02:44:07,110 --> 02:44:05,600
layer of stratus clouds that was forming

4280
02:44:09,590 --> 02:44:07,120
pretty rapidly

4281
02:44:11,910 --> 02:44:09,600
but this thing was well above that and

4282
02:44:14,630 --> 02:44:11,920
sometimes you know a cloud would go by

4283
02:44:16,710 --> 02:44:14,640
and when the cloud went by i noticed it

4284
02:44:18,950 --> 02:44:16,720
was still there so just hovering not

4285
02:44:20,550 --> 02:44:18,960
moving not making any sounds

4286
02:44:23,349 --> 02:44:20,560
i couldn't even tell what the texture

4287
02:44:26,150 --> 02:44:23,359
was like it was so black it was just

4288
02:44:28,150 --> 02:44:26,160
completely black

4289
02:44:30,389 --> 02:44:28,160
no lights no details

4290
02:44:32,550 --> 02:44:30,399
nothing like that now at that time

4291
02:44:34,630 --> 02:44:32,560
drones were not very common and i

4292
02:44:36,630 --> 02:44:34,640
definitely knew it was not a kite

4293
02:44:39,110 --> 02:44:36,640
especially up at that altitude and not

4294
02:44:41,110 --> 02:44:39,120
moving at all despite all the wind so

4295
02:44:43,349 --> 02:44:41,120
the first thing that came to my mind was

4296
02:44:45,830 --> 02:44:43,359
maybe a skunk works aircraft some kind

4297
02:44:47,030 --> 02:44:45,840
of top secret american air force project

4298
02:44:49,990 --> 02:44:47,040
or whatever

4299
02:44:53,110 --> 02:44:50,000
uh i thought of the f-117 and also the

4300
02:44:55,269 --> 02:44:53,120
b-2 which were both black triangles

4301
02:44:57,910 --> 02:44:55,279
but this triangle looked kind of smaller

4302
02:45:00,070 --> 02:44:57,920
than those two aircraft and as far as

4303
02:45:01,830 --> 02:45:00,080
i'm concerned those two airplanes cannot

4304
02:45:03,910 --> 02:45:01,840
hover they can just fly on a straight

4305
02:45:05,750 --> 02:45:03,920
line or you know conventional flight

4306
02:45:08,230 --> 02:45:05,760
like normal airplanes

4307
02:45:10,070 --> 02:45:08,240
so no hovering so i thought hey maybe

4308
02:45:12,230 --> 02:45:10,080
skunk works is up to something new i

4309
02:45:14,230 --> 02:45:12,240
better go check it out it's pretty cool

4310
02:45:16,469 --> 02:45:14,240
so naturally i tried to observe it for

4311
02:45:19,190 --> 02:45:16,479
as long as i could but it was just that

4312
02:45:22,309 --> 02:45:19,200
it was just a black triangle not moving

4313
02:45:24,230 --> 02:45:22,319
making no sounds uh unlike other reports

4314
02:45:26,630 --> 02:45:24,240
of black triangles which usually

4315
02:45:28,469 --> 02:45:26,640
accelerate or have lights or you know do

4316
02:45:29,590 --> 02:45:28,479
something this one was just

4317
02:45:31,670 --> 02:45:29,600
just there

4318
02:45:33,429 --> 02:45:31,680
i actually yelled out to my aunt who was

4319
02:45:35,670 --> 02:45:33,439
taking a shower at the time she told me

4320
02:45:37,429 --> 02:45:35,680
it was probably a kite but obviously she

4321
02:45:38,630 --> 02:45:37,439
wasn't observing it

4322
02:45:40,070 --> 02:45:38,640
and

4323
02:45:42,070 --> 02:45:40,080
i thought i was going to get to see it

4324
02:45:45,030 --> 02:45:42,080
go away or accelerate or do something

4325
02:45:46,630 --> 02:45:45,040
but actually it became so cloudy that i

4326
02:45:48,389 --> 02:45:46,640
just couldn't see it anymore you know

4327
02:45:50,309 --> 02:45:48,399
the the layer of clouds became really

4328
02:45:52,710 --> 02:45:50,319
dense and really thick became kind of an

4329
02:45:54,630 --> 02:45:52,720
overcast so i couldn't see it anymore i

4330
02:45:57,750 --> 02:45:54,640
don't know when it disappeared

4331
02:46:01,030 --> 02:45:57,760
like i said i have not heard or read any

4332
02:46:02,950 --> 02:46:01,040
reports especially near where i live of

4333
02:46:04,309 --> 02:46:02,960
anything similar to this over the past

4334
02:46:05,990 --> 02:46:04,319
15 years

4335
02:46:08,550 --> 02:46:06,000
like i said i've always been fascinated

4336
02:46:10,469 --> 02:46:08,560
with aviation and astronomy and the

4337
02:46:12,230 --> 02:46:10,479
atmosphere and all those things

4338
02:46:14,070 --> 02:46:12,240
i don't really buy into conspiracy

4339
02:46:16,070 --> 02:46:14,080
theories and i didn't think for one

4340
02:46:17,030 --> 02:46:16,080
second that it was an alien attack or an

4341
02:46:19,429 --> 02:46:17,040
alien

4342
02:46:21,190 --> 02:46:19,439
appearance or whatever if it had been an

4343
02:46:21,910 --> 02:46:21,200
alien attack i would probably just gone

4344
02:46:23,670 --> 02:46:21,920
out

4345
02:46:26,230 --> 02:46:23,680
hit my chest and be like bring it on

4346
02:46:28,230 --> 02:46:26,240
which would probably been my last words

4347
02:46:30,550 --> 02:46:28,240
i feel like i said really privileged to

4348
02:46:32,870 --> 02:46:30,560
have seen something like this

4349
02:46:35,830 --> 02:46:32,880
i saw a ufo

4350
02:46:39,670 --> 02:46:35,840
so who knows what this thing was

4351
02:46:41,750 --> 02:46:39,680
but it all started back when i was

4352
02:46:43,429 --> 02:46:41,760
i think i was 12

4353
02:46:45,510 --> 02:46:43,439
12 years old

4354
02:46:48,630 --> 02:46:45,520
like sixth grade

4355
02:46:50,790 --> 02:46:48,640
and um i was having a sleepover

4356
02:46:52,309 --> 02:46:50,800
with my best friend

4357
02:46:54,070 --> 02:46:52,319
no it wasn't because my best friend

4358
02:46:55,990 --> 02:46:54,080
moved away i don't remember who i was

4359
02:46:57,990 --> 02:46:56,000
with it was just like a friend or my

4360
02:46:59,750 --> 02:46:58,000
sister but we just it was like one

4361
02:47:02,469 --> 02:46:59,760
summer night we decided to go sleep on

4362
02:47:05,750 --> 02:47:02,479
the trampoline and i will never forget

4363
02:47:07,910 --> 02:47:05,760
this like seriously so where i grew up

4364
02:47:10,870 --> 02:47:07,920
i grew up really close to an air force

4365
02:47:13,750 --> 02:47:10,880
base so like our my little

4366
02:47:14,790 --> 02:47:13,760
town is kind of surrounded by hills and

4367
02:47:17,590 --> 02:47:14,800
then

4368
02:47:19,910 --> 02:47:17,600
to the east of it our really huge

4369
02:47:22,550 --> 02:47:19,920
mountain range and also there's a canyon

4370
02:47:24,230 --> 02:47:22,560
right there and so it is a really unique

4371
02:47:25,830 --> 02:47:24,240
place where i grew up it's really

4372
02:47:28,230 --> 02:47:25,840
beautiful

4373
02:47:30,230 --> 02:47:28,240
and actually the town i grew up in has a

4374
02:47:33,349 --> 02:47:30,240
really weird history with

4375
02:47:36,070 --> 02:47:33,359
a lot of people seeing um the sasquatch

4376
02:47:37,670 --> 02:47:36,080
also known as bigfoot which obviously i

4377
02:47:40,070 --> 02:47:37,680
don't believe in but when i was a little

4378
02:47:42,150 --> 02:47:40,080
kid i totally believed in it because i

4379
02:47:44,469 --> 02:47:42,160
had my friends whose grandparents said

4380
02:47:45,269 --> 02:47:44,479
they'd seen the sasquatch and all that

4381
02:47:47,349 --> 02:47:45,279
and

4382
02:47:49,190 --> 02:47:47,359
yeah so i was obsessed with bigfoot when

4383
02:47:51,110 --> 02:47:49,200
i was little but i mean that's a whole

4384
02:47:53,349 --> 02:47:51,120
nother story

4385
02:47:56,389 --> 02:47:53,359
but this story was we were sleeping on

4386
02:47:58,469 --> 02:47:56,399
the trampoline i had a huge backyard

4387
02:47:59,910 --> 02:47:58,479
and tons of trees like when it would be

4388
02:48:01,750 --> 02:47:59,920
like when the wind would come through

4389
02:48:04,870 --> 02:48:01,760
the breeze would come through you could

4390
02:48:07,830 --> 02:48:04,880
hear the wind and the leaves

4391
02:48:10,230 --> 02:48:07,840
um rustling in the trees

4392
02:48:12,550 --> 02:48:10,240
and i was staring at the nice guy my

4393
02:48:15,110 --> 02:48:12,560
friend fell asleep and i was still awake

4394
02:48:17,269 --> 02:48:15,120
just like staring up and like

4395
02:48:19,750 --> 02:48:17,279
just you could see so many stars like

4396
02:48:22,070 --> 02:48:19,760
where i lived so many it was amazing and

4397
02:48:24,070 --> 02:48:22,080
you could see satellites going by and

4398
02:48:26,790 --> 02:48:24,080
shooting stars

4399
02:48:29,590 --> 02:48:26,800
and i had been awake for quite a while

4400
02:48:32,469 --> 02:48:29,600
just thinking and staring at the sky

4401
02:48:35,269 --> 02:48:32,479
and that whole time i was

4402
02:48:37,750 --> 02:48:35,279
watching the night sky the hill

4403
02:48:39,670 --> 02:48:37,760
so i was laying down and

4404
02:48:41,030 --> 02:48:39,680
behind me was east

4405
02:48:43,990 --> 02:48:41,040
and the other way

4406
02:48:46,870 --> 02:48:44,000
was west and kind of to like the west

4407
02:48:49,349 --> 02:48:46,880
south part of the sky really low into

4408
02:48:51,349 --> 02:48:49,359
the sky there's this big bright star the

4409
02:48:55,190 --> 02:48:51,359
whole time that it was like a planet or

4410
02:48:57,030 --> 02:48:55,200
a star i don't know but it was huge like

4411
02:48:59,269 --> 02:48:57,040
well throughout the night i crossed it

4412
02:49:00,710 --> 02:48:59,279
many times looking at the sky you know

4413
02:49:02,790 --> 02:49:00,720
looking at it

4414
02:49:05,030 --> 02:49:02,800
the whole time it was there for at least

4415
02:49:07,190 --> 02:49:05,040
an hour it had not moved this big bright

4416
02:49:09,670 --> 02:49:07,200
star planet i'm not sure

4417
02:49:12,469 --> 02:49:09,680
and then out of nowhere like this was

4418
02:49:14,150 --> 02:49:12,479
the freakiest thing ever i didn't know

4419
02:49:16,389 --> 02:49:14,160
where all of a sudden

4420
02:49:20,070 --> 02:49:16,399
that star planet

4421
02:49:22,469 --> 02:49:20,080
just slowly started moving up

4422
02:49:25,190 --> 02:49:22,479
just higher like

4423
02:49:27,830 --> 02:49:25,200
what the hell this thing started moving

4424
02:49:29,830 --> 02:49:27,840
and it was holding still shining bright

4425
02:49:31,830 --> 02:49:29,840
just like any other star

4426
02:49:33,830 --> 02:49:31,840
the whole night

4427
02:49:36,309 --> 02:49:33,840
and it starts

4428
02:49:37,429 --> 02:49:36,319
moving up towards higher into the sky

4429
02:49:38,870 --> 02:49:37,439
because it was one of the stars that

4430
02:49:41,190 --> 02:49:38,880
were a little bit lower not like

4431
02:49:44,070 --> 02:49:41,200
directly above and i remember just like

4432
02:49:46,790 --> 02:49:44,080
my heart literally just like sank to my

4433
02:49:49,590 --> 02:49:46,800
stomach i was just frozen just staring

4434
02:49:51,269 --> 02:49:49,600
at it like watching it slowly just go up

4435
02:49:53,510 --> 02:49:51,279
into the sky and as it got higher up it

4436
02:49:55,349 --> 02:49:53,520
started getting smaller and smaller

4437
02:49:56,309 --> 02:49:55,359
dimmer and dimmer until it finally just

4438
02:49:58,950 --> 02:49:56,319
got

4439
02:50:00,710 --> 02:49:58,960
so high up it disappeared

4440
02:50:03,190 --> 02:50:00,720
and i remember just thinking what the

4441
02:50:04,870 --> 02:50:03,200
hell was that it wasn't a plane it

4442
02:50:07,110 --> 02:50:04,880
wasn't

4443
02:50:08,870 --> 02:50:07,120
what was it it was the freakiest thing

4444
02:50:10,870 --> 02:50:08,880
and it was just not there anymore that

4445
02:50:12,790 --> 02:50:10,880
big bright star that was there it was

4446
02:50:15,190 --> 02:50:12,800
not there anymore

4447
02:50:17,190 --> 02:50:15,200
it disappeared i just watched it

4448
02:50:19,110 --> 02:50:17,200
move up into the sky

4449
02:50:20,830 --> 02:50:19,120
it was the creepiest and weirdest thing

4450
02:50:23,110 --> 02:50:20,840
and i remember

4451
02:50:24,710 --> 02:50:23,120
like the next day telling my whole

4452
02:50:26,790 --> 02:50:24,720
family about my friends about it like

4453
02:50:28,710 --> 02:50:26,800
everyone just thinks i'm crazy like i

4454
02:50:31,830 --> 02:50:28,720
will never forget that because i was not

4455
02:50:34,309 --> 02:50:31,840
crazy i knew exactly what i saw so

4456
02:50:36,870 --> 02:50:34,319
whether it was aliens or it was from the

4457
02:50:37,910 --> 02:50:36,880
air force base some kind of

4458
02:50:39,910 --> 02:50:37,920
new

4459
02:50:42,389 --> 02:50:39,920
aircraft that they were testing but the

4460
02:50:46,230 --> 02:50:42,399
weird part is is that it had been in

4461
02:50:48,070 --> 02:50:46,240
that same spot for a very long time

4462
02:50:50,550 --> 02:50:48,080
just hovering so if it wasn't aircraft

4463
02:50:53,190 --> 02:50:50,560
was it just hovering there it just does

4464
02:50:54,790 --> 02:50:53,200
not make any sense and to this day

4465
02:50:56,150 --> 02:50:54,800
i still don't know what it was i'll

4466
02:51:00,070 --> 02:50:56,160
never know

4467
02:51:01,830 --> 02:51:00,080
but it's very weird and mysterious

4468
02:51:04,070 --> 02:51:01,840
and yeah that was my

4469
02:51:05,429 --> 02:51:04,080
my story of seeing an unidentified

4470
02:51:07,990 --> 02:51:05,439
object

4471
02:51:13,590 --> 02:51:11,269
hello my name is miguel rodriguez i'm a

4472
02:51:14,950 --> 02:51:13,600
native new yorker i was born and raised

4473
02:51:17,830 --> 02:51:14,960
in the bronx

4474
02:51:20,469 --> 02:51:17,840
i currently live in south florida i work

4475
02:51:22,469 --> 02:51:20,479
for the broward county school board

4476
02:51:24,070 --> 02:51:22,479
i wanted to share two sightings that i

4477
02:51:26,870 --> 02:51:24,080
had in the bronx

4478
02:51:28,710 --> 02:51:26,880
both as a child and as an adult

4479
02:51:32,469 --> 02:51:28,720
my first initial sighting took place in

4480
02:51:34,870 --> 02:51:32,479
1989 i was 12 years old the building

4481
02:51:38,070 --> 02:51:34,880
that i lived in from my bedroom

4482
02:51:38,870 --> 02:51:38,080
i could see the new york city skyline

4483
02:51:40,469 --> 02:51:38,880
and

4484
02:51:42,389 --> 02:51:40,479
all of queens

4485
02:51:45,510 --> 02:51:42,399
directly in front of me was the hudson

4486
02:51:48,309 --> 02:51:45,520
river and the white stone bridge

4487
02:51:50,230 --> 02:51:48,319
on this particular night i saw what

4488
02:51:53,110 --> 02:51:50,240
appeared to be a

4489
02:51:55,830 --> 02:51:53,120
luminescent orb over the bridge

4490
02:51:56,870 --> 02:51:55,840
this orb was pulsating

4491
02:51:59,750 --> 02:51:56,880
a

4492
02:52:01,990 --> 02:51:59,760
mini moon

4493
02:52:04,070 --> 02:52:02,000
it was rocking back and forth

4494
02:52:05,190 --> 02:52:04,080
in the sky right over the white stone

4495
02:52:08,710 --> 02:52:05,200
bridge

4496
02:52:10,150 --> 02:52:08,720
like a boat in water effortlessly what i

4497
02:52:12,469 --> 02:52:10,160
observed

4498
02:52:13,510 --> 02:52:12,479
was that this

4499
02:52:15,110 --> 02:52:13,520
orb

4500
02:52:17,670 --> 02:52:15,120
this ufo

4501
02:52:20,469 --> 02:52:17,680
wanted to be seen

4502
02:52:22,710 --> 02:52:20,479
as a child i was

4503
02:52:24,550 --> 02:52:22,720
amazed i didn't know what to make of it

4504
02:52:27,429 --> 02:52:24,560
i've never heard of

4505
02:52:29,349 --> 02:52:27,439
ufos or anything of that sort

4506
02:52:32,309 --> 02:52:29,359
prior to that

4507
02:52:34,389 --> 02:52:32,319
so i tried to make sense of what i was

4508
02:52:37,190 --> 02:52:34,399
seeing and

4509
02:52:41,269 --> 02:52:37,200
my description of that was a little mini

4510
02:52:43,990 --> 02:52:41,279
moon that floated like a boat on water

4511
02:52:47,269 --> 02:52:44,000
things got more interesting

4512
02:52:50,230 --> 02:52:47,279
as i observed this object which

4513
02:52:52,870 --> 02:52:50,240
the experience in total may have lasted

4514
02:52:55,590 --> 02:52:52,880
anywhere between 15

4515
02:52:57,190 --> 02:52:55,600
to 20 minutes that's how long

4516
02:52:59,670 --> 02:52:57,200
it was there

4517
02:53:02,710 --> 02:52:59,680
two jets were scrambled to pursue this

4518
02:53:04,150 --> 02:53:02,720
object they came out of queens

4519
02:53:07,190 --> 02:53:04,160
and

4520
02:53:08,870 --> 02:53:07,200
at this point i feel like i'm in a movie

4521
02:53:11,590 --> 02:53:08,880
i couldn't believe what i was seeing i

4522
02:53:13,429 --> 02:53:11,600
was excited i was scared

4523
02:53:14,309 --> 02:53:13,439
i asked my brother to come take a look

4524
02:53:16,870 --> 02:53:14,319
at it

4525
02:53:19,590 --> 02:53:16,880
he was terrified he ran back to his bunk

4526
02:53:21,269 --> 02:53:19,600
bed and got under the covers

4527
02:53:23,429 --> 02:53:21,279
me on the other hand i couldn't take my

4528
02:53:24,950 --> 02:53:23,439
eyes off of it and

4529
02:53:27,030 --> 02:53:24,960
i was

4530
02:53:29,670 --> 02:53:27,040
you might as well have given me popcorn

4531
02:53:31,990 --> 02:53:29,680
because my eyes were glued

4532
02:53:34,790 --> 02:53:32,000
to what i was seeing so the jets pursued

4533
02:53:36,630 --> 02:53:34,800
this object the object vanished

4534
02:53:39,910 --> 02:53:36,640
and the jets returned

4535
02:53:42,710 --> 02:53:39,920
to wherever they came from in queens

4536
02:53:45,910 --> 02:53:42,720
this object re appeared

4537
02:53:47,269 --> 02:53:45,920
and when it reappeared it really started

4538
02:53:49,190 --> 02:53:47,279
uh

4539
02:53:51,590 --> 02:53:49,200
going heavy with the light show it

4540
02:53:54,309 --> 02:53:51,600
started pulsating even more

4541
02:53:55,750 --> 02:53:54,319
the light was even more brilliant

4542
02:53:58,469 --> 02:53:55,760
and

4543
02:53:59,910 --> 02:53:58,479
then things started getting even more

4544
02:54:01,670 --> 02:53:59,920
interesting

4545
02:54:04,710 --> 02:54:01,680
so from

4546
02:54:07,670 --> 02:54:04,720
the middle of the white stone bridge to

4547
02:54:09,990 --> 02:54:07,680
my building i'd have to say i'm just

4548
02:54:12,389 --> 02:54:10,000
taking a wild guess here but

4549
02:54:13,910 --> 02:54:12,399
uh i'd say anywhere between five to ten

4550
02:54:15,590 --> 02:54:13,920
miles

4551
02:54:16,870 --> 02:54:15,600
what started happening is that this

4552
02:54:18,790 --> 02:54:16,880
object

4553
02:54:20,870 --> 02:54:18,800
from that point in the bridge to my

4554
02:54:25,349 --> 02:54:20,880
building to my neighborhood

4555
02:54:27,830 --> 02:54:25,359
started flying over in what appeared

4556
02:54:30,950 --> 02:54:27,840
to be milliseconds

4557
02:54:34,070 --> 02:54:30,960
i have to say that in under a minute

4558
02:54:37,269 --> 02:54:34,080
possibly even under 30 seconds

4559
02:54:39,110 --> 02:54:37,279
this object flew from the bridge to my

4560
02:54:40,790 --> 02:54:39,120
neighborhood

4561
02:54:43,510 --> 02:54:40,800
at least

4562
02:54:45,830 --> 02:54:43,520
seven times eight times back and forth

4563
02:54:49,990 --> 02:54:45,840
effortlessly like nothing

4564
02:54:55,030 --> 02:54:52,870
as fast as if you were to point a a

4565
02:54:58,070 --> 02:54:55,040
light uh pointer

4566
02:54:59,510 --> 02:54:58,080
a laser pointer on a chalkboard and move

4567
02:55:01,190 --> 02:54:59,520
it

4568
02:55:03,670 --> 02:55:01,200
around

4569
02:55:06,150 --> 02:55:03,680
that's how fast it was

4570
02:55:09,429 --> 02:55:06,160
when it got to my neighborhood which

4571
02:55:13,670 --> 02:55:09,439
was very fast i noticed that it wasn't

4572
02:55:15,750 --> 02:55:13,680
an orb it was in fact they craft a disc

4573
02:55:18,950 --> 02:55:15,760
shaped craft

4574
02:55:20,309 --> 02:55:18,960
metallic in nature and that the orb that

4575
02:55:22,469 --> 02:55:20,319
i thought it was

4576
02:55:25,830 --> 02:55:22,479
was just uh

4577
02:55:28,309 --> 02:55:25,840
an energy of sorts around the craft

4578
02:55:29,860 --> 02:55:28,319
like an aura

4579
02:55:31,269 --> 02:55:29,870
circular

4580
02:55:32,710 --> 02:55:31,279
[Music]

4581
02:55:36,150 --> 02:55:32,720
and that was

4582
02:55:41,110 --> 02:55:38,790
i couldn't take my eyes off of the sky

4583
02:55:42,950 --> 02:55:41,120
after that after that i became very

4584
02:55:47,910 --> 02:55:42,960
adamant in

4585
02:55:53,110 --> 02:55:50,630
the second sighting took place in 2002 i

4586
02:55:55,990 --> 02:55:53,120
worked as a security guard

4587
02:55:57,990 --> 02:55:56,000
for a beer distribution company

4588
02:55:59,590 --> 02:55:58,000
this was

4589
02:56:01,110 --> 02:55:59,600
also in the bronx

4590
02:56:04,950 --> 02:56:01,120
and

4591
02:56:06,950 --> 02:56:04,960
my shift was from 11 p.m to 8 a.m

4592
02:56:10,550 --> 02:56:06,960
i worked overnight

4593
02:56:12,710 --> 02:56:10,560
and i noticed that in 2002 mid october

4594
02:56:15,190 --> 02:56:12,720
late october actually

4595
02:56:18,150 --> 02:56:15,200
october 25th 26th

4596
02:56:20,389 --> 02:56:18,160
i noticed uh what appeared to be like a

4597
02:56:23,429 --> 02:56:20,399
like roman sparklers like the sparks

4598
02:56:24,550 --> 02:56:23,439
that come off a roman sparkler or

4599
02:56:27,990 --> 02:56:24,560
uh

4600
02:56:30,710 --> 02:56:28,000
someone working with metal a machinist

4601
02:56:32,469 --> 02:56:30,720
working with metal that uh the sparks

4602
02:56:36,070 --> 02:56:32,479
that come off of that

4603
02:56:40,150 --> 02:56:37,750
over this building that was in front of

4604
02:56:43,590 --> 02:56:40,160
the facility

4605
02:56:46,230 --> 02:56:43,600
the building is six stories tall

4606
02:56:49,590 --> 02:56:46,240
fairly small building and

4607
02:56:50,870 --> 02:56:49,600
i was in my post in the back of uh the

4608
02:56:53,030 --> 02:56:50,880
facility

4609
02:56:54,710 --> 02:56:53,040
it was very cold and i didn't really

4610
02:56:56,710 --> 02:56:54,720
care to go

4611
02:56:58,070 --> 02:56:56,720
investigate whatever that was any

4612
02:57:00,230 --> 02:56:58,080
further

4613
02:57:01,590 --> 02:57:00,240
in fact it was so cold that for two

4614
02:57:04,550 --> 02:57:01,600
weeks

4615
02:57:06,950 --> 02:57:04,560
it just didn't dawn on me to investigate

4616
02:57:09,269 --> 02:57:06,960
whatever that was although

4617
02:57:11,349 --> 02:57:09,279
i was watching it

4618
02:57:13,110 --> 02:57:11,359
and uh

4619
02:57:16,309 --> 02:57:13,120
checking it out

4620
02:57:19,030 --> 02:57:16,319
on november 10th 2002

4621
02:57:21,110 --> 02:57:19,040
i finally gave in i was my curiosity got

4622
02:57:23,670 --> 02:57:21,120
the best of me

4623
02:57:26,790 --> 02:57:23,680
i i asked myself what is this what am i

4624
02:57:29,349 --> 02:57:26,800
looking at because it was just

4625
02:57:30,710 --> 02:57:29,359
you know i just couldn't make it out so

4626
02:57:33,750 --> 02:57:30,720
i walked toward the front of the

4627
02:57:35,590 --> 02:57:33,760
facility to the first post

4628
02:57:37,750 --> 02:57:35,600
and uh

4629
02:57:39,910 --> 02:57:37,760
that facility is that it's as big as a

4630
02:57:42,870 --> 02:57:39,920
football field so

4631
02:57:44,950 --> 02:57:42,880
i walked to the front of it and

4632
02:57:46,469 --> 02:57:44,960
out of these sparks that i saw over the

4633
02:57:48,950 --> 02:57:46,479
building

4634
02:57:52,070 --> 02:57:48,960
a triangular craft appeared

4635
02:57:53,990 --> 02:57:52,080
out of nowhere out of those sparks

4636
02:57:55,990 --> 02:57:54,000
and it was big

4637
02:57:57,590 --> 02:57:56,000
it was silent

4638
02:57:59,349 --> 02:57:57,600
if i didn't see it come out of those

4639
02:58:01,830 --> 02:57:59,359
sparks i wouldn't have known it was

4640
02:58:04,550 --> 02:58:01,840
there in the first place

4641
02:58:06,309 --> 02:58:04,560
it made no noise whatsoever

4642
02:58:08,309 --> 02:58:06,319
there was one

4643
02:58:09,590 --> 02:58:08,319
light on it that i could tell that was

4644
02:58:10,950 --> 02:58:09,600
red

4645
02:58:12,710 --> 02:58:10,960
other than that

4646
02:58:15,269 --> 02:58:12,720
it was completely blended in with the

4647
02:58:17,349 --> 02:58:15,279
night and made no noise i walked

4648
02:58:19,990 --> 02:58:17,359
backwards with this

4649
02:58:22,710 --> 02:58:20,000
triangular craft over me

4650
02:58:26,469 --> 02:58:22,720
uh which by the way was just over

4651
02:58:28,150 --> 02:58:26,479
six stories above me it was fairly close

4652
02:58:29,830 --> 02:58:28,160
i'm pretty sure that

4653
02:58:31,349 --> 02:58:29,840
if i wanted to i could throw something

4654
02:58:33,990 --> 02:58:31,359
at the object but

4655
02:58:35,590 --> 02:58:34,000
i walked backwards the entire time with

4656
02:58:38,550 --> 02:58:35,600
this object

4657
02:58:39,990 --> 02:58:38,560
over me and it was so

4658
02:58:42,070 --> 02:58:40,000
unreal

4659
02:58:44,830 --> 02:58:42,080
that i couldn't

4660
02:58:49,269 --> 02:58:44,840
i couldn't even talk i couldn't even i

4661
02:58:50,230 --> 02:58:49,279
just moved with it backwards until

4662
02:58:54,230 --> 02:58:50,240
it

4663
02:58:57,910 --> 02:58:54,240
is

4664
02:59:01,830 --> 02:58:57,920
uh obscured by rocks and you know a big

4665
02:59:04,230 --> 02:59:01,840
rocky wall that over that goes into the

4666
02:59:05,269 --> 02:59:04,240
cross bronx expressway

4667
02:59:08,150 --> 02:59:05,279
and

4668
02:59:10,630 --> 02:59:08,160
that was in 2002 so i wrestled with that

4669
02:59:13,429 --> 02:59:10,640
sighting because

4670
02:59:15,190 --> 02:59:13,439
i didn't know who to talk to about it so

4671
02:59:17,429 --> 02:59:15,200
i i really wrestled with that

4672
02:59:19,590 --> 02:59:17,439
information and what i saw

4673
02:59:21,110 --> 02:59:19,600
i've never reported a ufo or anything of

4674
02:59:25,269 --> 02:59:21,120
that sort

4675
02:59:28,790 --> 02:59:25,279
until 2005 when i started i first

4676
02:59:30,870 --> 02:59:28,800
started using the internet in aol

4677
02:59:34,550 --> 02:59:30,880
i did my research

4678
02:59:37,590 --> 02:59:34,560
i wanted to file my first ufo report

4679
02:59:39,830 --> 02:59:37,600
and i did so with somebody that i

4680
02:59:43,309 --> 02:59:39,840
felt was very credible

4681
02:59:47,590 --> 02:59:43,319
and that person was brian vike from hbcc

4682
02:59:49,110 --> 02:59:47,600
ufo.com i filled out the report

4683
02:59:51,429 --> 02:59:49,120
he called me

4684
02:59:53,269 --> 02:59:51,439
he vetted me

4685
02:59:55,429 --> 02:59:53,279
and

4686
02:59:57,750 --> 02:59:55,439
according to brian vike my story checked

4687
03:00:00,070 --> 02:59:57,760
out and he wanted me

4688
03:00:02,389 --> 03:00:00,080
to talk with jeff france and

4689
03:00:03,910 --> 03:00:02,399
be interviewed by jeff france and be on

4690
03:00:05,670 --> 03:00:03,920
his radio show

4691
03:00:07,670 --> 03:00:05,680
and i did

4692
03:00:10,790 --> 03:00:07,680
and after that

4693
03:00:13,110 --> 03:00:10,800
interview which is uh on jeff the jeff

4694
03:00:15,429 --> 03:00:13,120
fred's program which is a nationally

4695
03:00:17,750 --> 03:00:15,439
syndicated radio show

4696
03:00:19,910 --> 03:00:17,760
uh the floodgates were open uh people

4697
03:00:21,510 --> 03:00:19,920
started contacting me in regards to what

4698
03:00:22,550 --> 03:00:21,520
i saw

4699
03:00:24,550 --> 03:00:22,560
and

4700
03:00:25,990 --> 03:00:24,560
from that day on

4701
03:00:27,750 --> 03:00:26,000
i've been

4702
03:00:30,550 --> 03:00:27,760
involved in the

4703
03:00:32,630 --> 03:00:30,560
information community the ufo community

4704
03:00:34,150 --> 03:00:32,640
whatever you want to call it

4705
03:00:37,190 --> 03:00:34,160
and to this day

4706
03:00:39,030 --> 03:00:37,200
i still have sightings i have pictures

4707
03:00:39,910 --> 03:00:39,040
i have video

4708
03:00:43,910 --> 03:00:39,920
uh

4709
03:00:47,190 --> 03:00:43,920
particularly here in south florida

4710
03:00:48,950 --> 03:00:47,200
and that's my story i hope that uh

4711
03:00:50,950 --> 03:00:48,960
people in new york

4712
03:00:52,550 --> 03:00:50,960
share their stories more because to my

4713
03:00:55,110 --> 03:00:52,560
understanding

4714
03:00:57,750 --> 03:00:55,120
uh having a sighting out there

4715
03:01:00,710 --> 03:00:57,760
is not a usual but we don't hear about

4716
03:01:02,790 --> 03:01:00,720
those much especially in the cities

4717
03:01:04,550 --> 03:01:02,800
in the five boroughs

4718
03:01:09,190 --> 03:01:04,560
you know

4719
03:01:14,230 --> 03:01:11,190
i have been putting off this story for

4720
03:01:16,870 --> 03:01:14,240
such a very long time because it creeps

4721
03:01:18,950 --> 03:01:16,880
me out i've only like really told this

4722
03:01:22,150 --> 03:01:18,960
story to like my family members and like

4723
03:01:24,309 --> 03:01:22,160
some co-workers so for today's video i'm

4724
03:01:27,990 --> 03:01:24,319
going to be talking about my encounters

4725
03:01:29,269 --> 03:01:28,000
with extraterrestrials and ufos really

4726
03:01:31,830 --> 03:01:29,279
um i

4727
03:01:33,429 --> 03:01:31,840
i start getting so scared talking about

4728
03:01:35,269 --> 03:01:33,439
these kind of things

4729
03:01:37,349 --> 03:01:35,279
and i'm also home alone which doesn't

4730
03:01:38,710 --> 03:01:37,359
help so to start things off i'm actually

4731
03:01:39,510 --> 03:01:38,720
going to be talking about one of my

4732
03:01:42,790 --> 03:01:39,520
first

4733
03:01:44,870 --> 03:01:42,800
earliest encounters with ufos so this

4734
03:01:47,269 --> 03:01:44,880
story begins with me and one of my

4735
03:01:49,750 --> 03:01:47,279
friends so me and chase were actually

4736
03:01:51,830 --> 03:01:49,760
playing in this playground and in these

4737
03:01:54,070 --> 03:01:51,840
apartments that i used to live in they

4738
03:01:56,790 --> 03:01:54,080
had a playground in a field that was

4739
03:01:59,910 --> 03:01:56,800
across the apartments for me at the time

4740
03:02:01,429 --> 03:01:59,920
this field was huge so i don't know how

4741
03:02:03,269 --> 03:02:01,439
it is now because i haven't been there

4742
03:02:05,110 --> 03:02:03,279
for so long me and my friend chase were

4743
03:02:07,190 --> 03:02:05,120
playing on the playground the sun was

4744
03:02:09,830 --> 03:02:07,200
starting to set already we had like a

4745
03:02:12,070 --> 03:02:09,840
good 30 to 45 minutes maybe left of

4746
03:02:14,790 --> 03:02:12,080
daylight i don't remember why but we

4747
03:02:17,349 --> 03:02:14,800
decided oh like let's go play out in the

4748
03:02:19,750 --> 03:02:17,359
field uh which is strange because there

4749
03:02:21,910 --> 03:02:19,760
was nothing in the field we were just

4750
03:02:23,910 --> 03:02:21,920
kind of walking around the field i think

4751
03:02:27,030 --> 03:02:23,920
we were just you know just talking i had

4752
03:02:29,910 --> 03:02:27,040
the sudden urge to actually look up and

4753
03:02:32,870 --> 03:02:29,920
right as i looked up i noticed something

4754
03:02:35,910 --> 03:02:32,880
in the sky it looked like a big rock it

4755
03:02:36,790 --> 03:02:35,920
had two dots on each side of the of the

4756
03:02:39,750 --> 03:02:36,800
thing

4757
03:02:42,150 --> 03:02:39,760
of the ufo it had like a rough texture

4758
03:02:44,950 --> 03:02:42,160
all around it it didn't have any

4759
03:02:47,349 --> 03:02:44,960
wings and it was just there almost right

4760
03:02:49,190 --> 03:02:47,359
above us there was nothing attached to

4761
03:02:51,990 --> 03:02:49,200
it or a part of it that would make it

4762
03:02:53,990 --> 03:02:52,000
you know fly me and chase we really

4763
03:02:56,230 --> 03:02:54,000
didn't know what we were looking at i

4764
03:02:58,070 --> 03:02:56,240
pointed to it and i asked chase chase do

4765
03:02:59,830 --> 03:02:58,080
you see that and chase was like yeah i

4766
03:03:01,349 --> 03:02:59,840
do see that what is that you know like

4767
03:03:03,429 --> 03:03:01,359
we were both just like oh what is it and

4768
03:03:05,750 --> 03:03:03,439
we looked at it for a good few minutes

4769
03:03:07,830 --> 03:03:05,760
and it was still there just floating it

4770
03:03:09,429 --> 03:03:07,840
wasn't too close to us but it was still

4771
03:03:11,510 --> 03:03:09,439
really high up in the sky but we could

4772
03:03:13,590 --> 03:03:11,520
still see it perfectly but we just made

4773
03:03:15,910 --> 03:03:13,600
our way back to the playground away from

4774
03:03:17,510 --> 03:03:15,920
it really because we just didn't know

4775
03:03:19,269 --> 03:03:17,520
what it was and we were just kind of

4776
03:03:21,349 --> 03:03:19,279
playing on the play structure and there

4777
03:03:23,030 --> 03:03:21,359
is this part in the play structure where

4778
03:03:25,030 --> 03:03:23,040
you can kind of climb up and it's like

4779
03:03:27,269 --> 03:03:25,040
almost like a roofing that you can climb

4780
03:03:30,309 --> 03:03:27,279
up on and kind of just look out into the

4781
03:03:31,990 --> 03:03:30,319
field and the ufo was still there it

4782
03:03:35,910 --> 03:03:32,000
didn't look like it was moving around or

4783
03:03:37,910 --> 03:03:35,920
anything it was just still up in the sky

4784
03:03:40,150 --> 03:03:37,920
no movement whatsoever this is going to

4785
03:03:42,950 --> 03:03:40,160
sound really silly but earlier that week

4786
03:03:45,750 --> 03:03:42,960
me and my family actually went to kfc

4787
03:03:48,309 --> 03:03:45,760
and in the kids meals at that time they

4788
03:03:50,550 --> 03:03:48,319
actually came with like binoculars for

4789
03:03:52,389 --> 03:03:50,560
kids i told my friend chase that i was

4790
03:03:55,110 --> 03:03:52,399
like hey chase like i have these new

4791
03:03:57,670 --> 03:03:55,120
binoculars in my house i could go bring

4792
03:04:00,070 --> 03:03:57,680
them and i we can come back outside and

4793
03:04:01,750 --> 03:04:00,080
we can see this thing up close and my

4794
03:04:04,070 --> 03:04:01,760
friend chase was like yeah okay you know

4795
03:04:06,309 --> 03:04:04,080
let's do it and so what was really cool

4796
03:04:08,070 --> 03:04:06,319
too is chase actually lived right next

4797
03:04:10,790 --> 03:04:08,080
to me in the other apartment so we

4798
03:04:13,030 --> 03:04:10,800
walked home and by this time too it was

4799
03:04:15,429 --> 03:04:13,040
actually starting to get dark like it

4800
03:04:17,429 --> 03:04:15,439
was about 10 minutes before it actually

4801
03:04:19,670 --> 03:04:17,439
got like dark out once we walked up to

4802
03:04:21,190 --> 03:04:19,680
our doors chase's mom told me oh chase

4803
03:04:23,990 --> 03:04:21,200
can't play outside anymore it's getting

4804
03:04:26,230 --> 03:04:24,000
dark but i was still determined to get

4805
03:04:28,550 --> 03:04:26,240
my binoculars and go back outside to the

4806
03:04:30,550 --> 03:04:28,560
park to go look at whatever this thing

4807
03:04:32,790 --> 03:04:30,560
was i ran into my room and i was trying

4808
03:04:35,910 --> 03:04:32,800
to look everywhere i remember i had like

4809
03:04:37,670 --> 03:04:35,920
a gray giant tub full of toys and i was

4810
03:04:39,750 --> 03:04:37,680
just kind of digging my way through it

4811
03:04:41,990 --> 03:04:39,760
taking out every toy to see if i could

4812
03:04:44,309 --> 03:04:42,000
find my binoculars and i couldn't find

4813
03:04:46,469 --> 03:04:44,319
them my sister opened the door and i

4814
03:04:48,630 --> 03:04:46,479
heard the rattling of the binoculars so

4815
03:04:49,990 --> 03:04:48,640
i actually hung them up on the doorknob

4816
03:04:51,670 --> 03:04:50,000
i told my sister i was like oh there's

4817
03:04:53,030 --> 03:04:51,680
something in the sky and it's floating

4818
03:04:54,389 --> 03:04:53,040
there and i want to see it with my new

4819
03:04:56,230 --> 03:04:54,399
binoculars you know i grabbed my

4820
03:04:58,070 --> 03:04:56,240
binoculars i opened the door and then i

4821
03:05:01,030 --> 03:04:58,080
ran down the stairs and i went back to

4822
03:05:02,950 --> 03:05:01,040
the park by myself and i went up to the

4823
03:05:06,309 --> 03:05:02,960
rooftop of the play structure and i

4824
03:05:08,790 --> 03:05:06,319
pulled out my binoculars and

4825
03:05:10,950 --> 03:05:08,800
it was gone and it was a clear night

4826
03:05:12,389 --> 03:05:10,960
there was nothing else in the sky but

4827
03:05:14,150 --> 03:05:12,399
anyways so yeah

4828
03:05:16,469 --> 03:05:14,160
didn't see anything in the sky you know

4829
03:05:18,230 --> 03:05:16,479
i had my little kfc binoculars on my

4830
03:05:20,950 --> 03:05:18,240
neck and i just was like well you know

4831
03:05:22,790 --> 03:05:20,960
what oh well so i came back home i was

4832
03:05:24,950 --> 03:05:22,800
telling my sisters i have three sisters

4833
03:05:26,710 --> 03:05:24,960
by the way i was telling my sisters i

4834
03:05:28,870 --> 03:05:26,720
was like you guys like me and my friend

4835
03:05:31,510 --> 03:05:28,880
chase saw the craziest thing today and i

4836
03:05:32,870 --> 03:05:31,520
told him exactly how i saw it i told

4837
03:05:35,030 --> 03:05:32,880
them i was like oh my god it was like a

4838
03:05:37,429 --> 03:05:35,040
big rock and it had like four grey dots

4839
03:05:38,630 --> 03:05:37,439
on it and my sisters were like oh my god

4840
03:05:40,389 --> 03:05:38,640
you know like they were trying to scare

4841
03:05:41,910 --> 03:05:40,399
me because they were teenagers at this

4842
03:05:44,230 --> 03:05:41,920
point i was just a little bean at this

4843
03:05:46,790 --> 03:05:44,240
time my sisters were like you just saw a

4844
03:05:49,030 --> 03:05:46,800
ufo you and your friend just saw a ufo

4845
03:05:50,469 --> 03:05:49,040
and you know it was aliens and all of

4846
03:05:52,469 --> 03:05:50,479
this stuff and they were just trying to

4847
03:05:55,110 --> 03:05:52,479
freak me out that's when i realized i

4848
03:05:56,710 --> 03:05:55,120
was like oh my god i saw a ufo they're

4849
03:05:58,150 --> 03:05:56,720
like oh they're gonna track you down and

4850
03:05:59,830 --> 03:05:58,160
you know they're gonna abduct you and

4851
03:06:02,950 --> 03:05:59,840
they're gonna take you in your sleep but

4852
03:06:04,950 --> 03:06:02,960
i was just balling my eyes out it was so

4853
03:06:06,870 --> 03:06:04,960
traumatizing for me because they're like

4854
03:06:08,469 --> 03:06:06,880
yeah like why did you why did you go

4855
03:06:09,910 --> 03:06:08,479
back outside they might have known that

4856
03:06:12,150 --> 03:06:09,920
you were on to them and that's why they

4857
03:06:14,790 --> 03:06:12,160
left so yeah that was one of the first

4858
03:06:17,190 --> 03:06:14,800
encounters i have with you know

4859
03:06:18,630 --> 03:06:17,200
seeing the ufo and all that stuff every

4860
03:06:20,469 --> 03:06:18,640
once in a while when you do walk

4861
03:06:22,450 --> 03:06:20,479
somewhere you know just

4862
03:06:26,950 --> 03:06:22,460
make sure you look up

4863
03:06:31,190 --> 03:06:29,349
my name is sean and i live just outside

4864
03:06:33,990 --> 03:06:31,200
of nashville tennessee

4865
03:06:36,469 --> 03:06:34,000
this is my story about a ufo that i

4866
03:06:38,950 --> 03:06:36,479
witnessed several years ago

4867
03:06:40,950 --> 03:06:38,960
i don't remember exactly how long ago it

4868
03:06:42,710 --> 03:06:40,960
was but it was probably around seven or

4869
03:06:44,550 --> 03:06:42,720
eight years ago

4870
03:06:46,710 --> 03:06:44,560
the time of day was between four and

4871
03:06:49,429 --> 03:06:46,720
five o'clock in the afternoon the sky

4872
03:06:51,910 --> 03:06:49,439
was clear with no clouds so visibility

4873
03:06:53,429 --> 03:06:51,920
was excellent

4874
03:06:55,269 --> 03:06:53,439
sometime between four and five in the

4875
03:06:58,389 --> 03:06:55,279
afternoon i walked outside of my house

4876
03:07:00,150 --> 03:06:58,399
to just go check my mail

4877
03:07:01,910 --> 03:07:00,160
and i stepped out onto my front porch

4878
03:07:04,790 --> 03:07:01,920
and as i shut the door behind me

4879
03:07:05,670 --> 03:07:04,800
something told me that i needed to look

4880
03:07:08,630 --> 03:07:05,680
up

4881
03:07:09,510 --> 03:07:08,640
and when i did i saw a long

4882
03:07:12,790 --> 03:07:09,520
white

4883
03:07:14,389 --> 03:07:12,800
cigar-shaped object that was flying low

4884
03:07:16,389 --> 03:07:14,399
in the sky

4885
03:07:18,389 --> 03:07:16,399
pretty much directly in front of me

4886
03:07:19,990 --> 03:07:18,399
and it was flying in a north to south

4887
03:07:22,710 --> 03:07:20,000
direction

4888
03:07:25,910 --> 03:07:22,720
i estimate that it was anywhere between

4889
03:07:27,750 --> 03:07:25,920
500 to a thousand feet in the air and it

4890
03:07:30,790 --> 03:07:27,760
was approximately a hundred feet in

4891
03:07:32,870 --> 03:07:30,800
length so this was a rather large object

4892
03:07:35,830 --> 03:07:32,880
in my opinion

4893
03:07:37,429 --> 03:07:35,840
it had no wings

4894
03:07:40,550 --> 03:07:37,439
no tail

4895
03:07:42,710 --> 03:07:40,560
no visible means of propulsion and i saw

4896
03:07:44,630 --> 03:07:42,720
no windows

4897
03:07:47,830 --> 03:07:44,640
and it also

4898
03:07:50,630 --> 03:07:47,840
didn't make a sound at all

4899
03:07:52,389 --> 03:07:50,640
i stood there for what seemed like

4900
03:07:54,469 --> 03:07:52,399
i don't know several minutes just

4901
03:07:57,429 --> 03:07:54,479
watching it slowly move

4902
03:07:58,389 --> 03:07:57,439
from the north to the south in the sky

4903
03:08:00,710 --> 03:07:58,399
and i

4904
03:08:02,710 --> 03:08:00,720
i was frozen in place

4905
03:08:04,550 --> 03:08:02,720
after all i was just going out to check

4906
03:08:06,950 --> 03:08:04,560
my mail you know i wasn't expecting to

4907
03:08:09,429 --> 03:08:06,960
see something like a ufo

4908
03:08:11,670 --> 03:08:09,439
and like i said it seemed like i was

4909
03:08:14,150 --> 03:08:11,680
standing there watching it for what

4910
03:08:16,150 --> 03:08:14,160
seemed like several minutes time just

4911
03:08:18,469 --> 03:08:16,160
seemed to slow down

4912
03:08:21,190 --> 03:08:18,479
but in reality it probably wasn't more

4913
03:08:23,750 --> 03:08:21,200
than about 30 to 60 seconds before i

4914
03:08:25,190 --> 03:08:23,760
came to my senses and realized that

4915
03:08:28,309 --> 03:08:25,200
what i was seeing

4916
03:08:31,269 --> 03:08:28,319
wasn't a conventional aircraft

4917
03:08:33,590 --> 03:08:31,279
i watched it for just a few more seconds

4918
03:08:35,429 --> 03:08:33,600
trying to determine exactly

4919
03:08:37,590 --> 03:08:35,439
what this thing was that i was seeing

4920
03:08:39,990 --> 03:08:37,600
and i suddenly realized that man i

4921
03:08:42,309 --> 03:08:40,000
needed to get a picture of

4922
03:08:44,790 --> 03:08:42,319
whatever this thing is

4923
03:08:46,950 --> 03:08:44,800
and so i ran back inside

4924
03:08:48,550 --> 03:08:46,960
to grab my cell phone and when i was

4925
03:08:51,030 --> 03:08:48,560
doing that i called for my wife at the

4926
03:08:52,630 --> 03:08:51,040
same time and i said you've got to come

4927
03:08:55,429 --> 03:08:52,640
out here and see this

4928
03:08:57,670 --> 03:08:55,439
i think it's a ufo

4929
03:09:01,510 --> 03:08:57,680
so i ran back onto the porch with my

4930
03:09:04,070 --> 03:09:01,520
wife behind me and the object was gone

4931
03:09:07,190 --> 03:09:04,080
it had vanished

4932
03:09:10,469 --> 03:09:07,200
so i ran into the front yard and i began

4933
03:09:12,469 --> 03:09:10,479
just scanning the skies first

4934
03:09:15,110 --> 03:09:12,479
looking in the direction

4935
03:09:17,190 --> 03:09:15,120
that this thing had been heading in

4936
03:09:19,830 --> 03:09:17,200
and then just scanning the skies looking

4937
03:09:23,349 --> 03:09:19,840
around and all 360 degrees

4938
03:09:24,540 --> 03:09:23,359
and this thing was gone

4939
03:09:25,910 --> 03:09:24,550
nowhere to be found

4940
03:09:28,710 --> 03:09:25,920
[Music]

4941
03:09:31,990 --> 03:09:28,720
now it was moving so slow

4942
03:09:33,190 --> 03:09:32,000
when i ran back inside to grab my phone

4943
03:09:35,510 --> 03:09:33,200
and

4944
03:09:38,309 --> 03:09:35,520
there was no way

4945
03:09:40,710 --> 03:09:38,319
it could have simply just disappeared

4946
03:09:43,190 --> 03:09:40,720
in the five whole seconds

4947
03:09:45,750 --> 03:09:43,200
it took me to get my phone

4948
03:09:48,790 --> 03:09:45,760
my phone was on the coffee table in the

4949
03:09:51,590 --> 03:09:48,800
living room so it literally took me just

4950
03:09:53,269 --> 03:09:51,600
a few seconds to grab it

4951
03:09:55,110 --> 03:09:53,279
whatever it was

4952
03:09:57,910 --> 03:09:55,120
had to accelerate

4953
03:10:00,710 --> 03:09:57,920
at an incredible rate of speed to

4954
03:10:02,389 --> 03:10:00,720
disappear that fast there's no noise no

4955
03:10:05,190 --> 03:10:02,399
sonic boom from something like you know

4956
03:10:07,269 --> 03:10:05,200
breaking the sound barrier nothing it

4957
03:10:08,630 --> 03:10:07,279
was completely gone

4958
03:10:10,710 --> 03:10:08,640
vanished

4959
03:10:11,670 --> 03:10:10,720
the whole event couldn't have lasted

4960
03:10:14,469 --> 03:10:11,680
more than

4961
03:10:15,830 --> 03:10:14,479
about five minutes

4962
03:10:17,830 --> 03:10:15,840
now my wife

4963
03:10:19,990 --> 03:10:17,840
must have thought that i was crazy

4964
03:10:21,190 --> 03:10:20,000
even though she said she believed me

4965
03:10:23,269 --> 03:10:21,200
and

4966
03:10:24,309 --> 03:10:23,279
i have to admit i felt a little crazy

4967
03:10:25,670 --> 03:10:24,319
myself

4968
03:10:28,790 --> 03:10:25,680
but i know

4969
03:10:31,670 --> 03:10:28,800
that i saw something i just don't know

4970
03:10:32,790 --> 03:10:31,680
what exactly the something that i saw

4971
03:10:35,110 --> 03:10:32,800
was

4972
03:10:36,710 --> 03:10:35,120
now here's a couple of things about me

4973
03:10:37,910 --> 03:10:36,720
that you need to know

4974
03:10:40,309 --> 03:10:37,920
first off

4975
03:10:42,950 --> 03:10:40,319
i'm a former government employee and

4976
03:10:43,990 --> 03:10:42,960
because of my job i held a top secret

4977
03:10:45,030 --> 03:10:44,000
clearance

4978
03:10:47,990 --> 03:10:45,040
i worked

4979
03:10:52,309 --> 03:10:48,000
for the army and i was around a lot of

4980
03:10:53,990 --> 03:10:52,319
aircraft it was mostly rotary wing but

4981
03:10:56,630 --> 03:10:54,000
i've spent some time around some

4982
03:10:58,230 --> 03:10:56,640
fixed-wing aircraft as well

4983
03:10:59,910 --> 03:10:58,240
i didn't work

4984
03:11:01,990 --> 03:10:59,920
on the aircraft

4985
03:11:04,389 --> 03:11:02,000
nor did i fly them

4986
03:11:06,309 --> 03:11:04,399
my job was something

4987
03:11:08,230 --> 03:11:06,319
completely different but i was around

4988
03:11:10,150 --> 03:11:08,240
them just about every day that i was at

4989
03:11:12,389 --> 03:11:10,160
work

4990
03:11:14,710 --> 03:11:12,399
now that's about all that i can say

4991
03:11:15,990 --> 03:11:14,720
about what i did

4992
03:11:17,600 --> 03:11:16,000
because of my

4993
03:11:18,870 --> 03:11:17,610
the nature of my job

4994
03:11:19,990 --> 03:11:18,880
[Music]

4995
03:11:21,349 --> 03:11:20,000
i know

4996
03:11:24,309 --> 03:11:21,359
what kind

4997
03:11:26,150 --> 03:11:24,319
of rotary rotary wing aircraft

4998
03:11:28,389 --> 03:11:26,160
it is without even seeing it i've been

4999
03:11:29,990 --> 03:11:28,399
around them so much that i i know what

5000
03:11:32,150 --> 03:11:30,000
kind of

5001
03:11:35,190 --> 03:11:32,160
aircraft it is that what

5002
03:11:36,710 --> 03:11:35,200
type it is just by the sound of it so i

5003
03:11:39,830 --> 03:11:36,720
know how to tell the difference between

5004
03:11:41,990 --> 03:11:39,840
a fixed wing and a rotary wing

5005
03:11:44,630 --> 03:11:42,000
i know the sounds they make and i

5006
03:11:45,990 --> 03:11:44,640
definitely know what they look like and

5007
03:11:47,670 --> 03:11:46,000
what i saw

5008
03:11:50,550 --> 03:11:47,680
didn't look like

5009
03:11:53,269 --> 03:11:50,560
anything like either one of those two

5010
03:11:54,630 --> 03:11:53,279
type of aircraft

5011
03:11:56,550 --> 03:11:54,640
now second

5012
03:11:59,110 --> 03:11:56,560
i live about 20 minutes away from the

5013
03:12:01,670 --> 03:11:59,120
nashville international airport my home

5014
03:12:04,469 --> 03:12:01,680
is almost directly in line with an

5015
03:12:05,750 --> 03:12:04,479
approached zone and the departure zone

5016
03:12:07,670 --> 03:12:05,760
so

5017
03:12:09,190 --> 03:12:07,680
i've got a lot of airplanes that fly

5018
03:12:12,389 --> 03:12:09,200
over my home

5019
03:12:15,269 --> 03:12:12,399
i mean a lot every day in fact

5020
03:12:18,550 --> 03:12:15,279
now they don't fly too low because i

5021
03:12:20,710 --> 03:12:18,560
live in a in a rather large subdivision

5022
03:12:22,230 --> 03:12:20,720
but i would estimate that the lowest

5023
03:12:24,710 --> 03:12:22,240
that they fly

5024
03:12:27,510 --> 03:12:24,720
would be around a thousand feet

5025
03:12:29,349 --> 03:12:27,520
however high or low it is it's it's low

5026
03:12:30,870 --> 03:12:29,359
enough that you can see

5027
03:12:32,389 --> 03:12:30,880
the black dots where the windows are

5028
03:12:34,070 --> 03:12:32,399
supposed to be

5029
03:12:36,389 --> 03:12:34,080
you can see the wings of the plane you

5030
03:12:38,710 --> 03:12:36,399
can see the tail you can see the engines

5031
03:12:40,550 --> 03:12:38,720
and you can definitely hear

5032
03:12:44,070 --> 03:12:40,560
the engines as well

5033
03:12:46,230 --> 03:12:44,080
i see all sizes of passenger planes

5034
03:12:48,070 --> 03:12:46,240
pretty much every day so i know what

5035
03:12:49,990 --> 03:12:48,080
they look like and i know what they

5036
03:12:52,150 --> 03:12:50,000
sound like

5037
03:12:55,269 --> 03:12:52,160
the point i'm trying to make is i've

5038
03:12:56,950 --> 03:12:55,279
been around a lot of aircraft

5039
03:12:59,349 --> 03:12:56,960
of all types

5040
03:13:02,150 --> 03:12:59,359
for a lot of years

5041
03:13:05,990 --> 03:13:02,160
and what i saw wasn't

5042
03:13:08,150 --> 03:13:06,000
a conventional aircraft whatever it was

5043
03:13:10,309 --> 03:13:08,160
was flying a little lower

5044
03:13:12,550 --> 03:13:10,319
than what these passenger planes fly in

5045
03:13:15,190 --> 03:13:12,560
their approach in departure zones and it

5046
03:13:17,830 --> 03:13:15,200
was flying way too slow

5047
03:13:20,790 --> 03:13:17,840
for one of those big planes to fly

5048
03:13:23,510 --> 03:13:20,800
i i would think that if a passenger

5049
03:13:25,830 --> 03:13:23,520
plane was flying at that slow of a rate

5050
03:13:28,950 --> 03:13:25,840
of speed that it would literally just

5051
03:13:30,550 --> 03:13:28,960
fall right out of the sky

5052
03:13:32,790 --> 03:13:30,560
what i saw

5053
03:13:33,750 --> 03:13:32,800
was definitely as big as a passenger

5054
03:13:35,750 --> 03:13:33,760
plane

5055
03:13:38,229 --> 03:13:35,760
and it was white in color

5056
03:13:39,590 --> 03:13:38,239
but that's where the similarities begin

5057
03:13:42,389 --> 03:13:39,600
and end

5058
03:13:44,790 --> 03:13:42,399
it was shaped like a cigar and it was

5059
03:13:47,830 --> 03:13:44,800
initially flying way too slow for a

5060
03:13:50,309 --> 03:13:47,840
passenger plane to safely fly

5061
03:13:52,710 --> 03:13:50,319
it had no windows that i could see it

5062
03:13:54,790 --> 03:13:52,720
had no wings or tail and it made no

5063
03:13:57,670 --> 03:13:54,800
sound at all

5064
03:13:59,590 --> 03:13:57,680
now even though i didn't have eyes on it

5065
03:14:01,510 --> 03:13:59,600
whenever it disappeared

5066
03:14:06,150 --> 03:14:01,520
it did

5067
03:14:07,510 --> 03:14:06,160
that any human

5068
03:14:08,830 --> 03:14:07,520
that would have

5069
03:14:10,469 --> 03:14:08,840
been in

5070
03:14:18,870 --> 03:14:10,479
that

5071
03:14:21,590 --> 03:14:18,880
been crushed by the g-force generated by

5072
03:14:22,630 --> 03:14:21,600
the acceleration

5073
03:14:23,750 --> 03:14:22,640
so

5074
03:14:26,870 --> 03:14:23,760
that's it

5075
03:14:29,670 --> 03:14:26,880
that's my story it's not some amazing

5076
03:14:31,429 --> 03:14:29,680
ufo story i didn't get abducted i don't

5077
03:14:33,110 --> 03:14:31,439
have any missing time

5078
03:14:34,630 --> 03:14:33,120
i don't suffer from any physical or

5079
03:14:36,950 --> 03:14:34,640
psychological effects from it or

5080
03:14:39,670 --> 03:14:36,960
anything like that i simply saw

5081
03:14:41,349 --> 03:14:39,680
something that i can't explain

5082
03:14:43,269 --> 03:14:41,359
i don't know what it was

5083
03:14:46,229 --> 03:14:43,279
but i know what it wasn't

5084
03:14:49,030 --> 03:14:46,239
it wasn't a conventional aircraft

5085
03:14:50,630 --> 03:14:49,040
that i know for a fact

5086
03:14:54,150 --> 03:14:50,640
thank you for taking the time to listen

5087
03:14:56,309 --> 03:14:54,160
to my story i'd love to know what you or

5088
03:15:00,150 --> 03:14:56,319
any of your listeners think about it

5089
03:15:04,790 --> 03:15:02,389
my name is montserrat panetta friends

5090
03:15:06,710 --> 03:15:04,800
call me monzy and i've had what appears

5091
03:15:09,349 --> 03:15:06,720
to be a lifelong relationship with

5092
03:15:12,150 --> 03:15:09,359
unidentified flying objects

5093
03:15:14,070 --> 03:15:12,160
i was born in chile in 1961.

5094
03:15:16,389 --> 03:15:14,080
my father had received a prestigious

5095
03:15:18,150 --> 03:15:16,399
rockefeller scholarship which allowed my

5096
03:15:20,630 --> 03:15:18,160
family to move to the states while he

5097
03:15:22,550 --> 03:15:20,640
attended university upon receiving his

5098
03:15:24,630 --> 03:15:22,560
master's in phd a doctorate in

5099
03:15:27,110 --> 03:15:24,640
veterinary medicine we returned back

5100
03:15:29,510 --> 03:15:27,120
home to the los rios region of valdivia

5101
03:15:31,510 --> 03:15:29,520
where my family owned a ranch

5102
03:15:33,590 --> 03:15:31,520
on the evening of my first event my

5103
03:15:36,550 --> 03:15:33,600
extended family had gathered for a

5104
03:15:38,309 --> 03:15:36,560
reunion celebrating our return

5105
03:15:40,309 --> 03:15:38,319
after dinner that evening some of us

5106
03:15:42,870 --> 03:15:40,319
gathered outside and because there was

5107
03:15:44,389 --> 03:15:42,880
no electricity the remote landscape was

5108
03:15:46,710 --> 03:15:44,399
pitch black

5109
03:15:48,710 --> 03:15:46,720
suddenly a light was noticed through the

5110
03:15:50,070 --> 03:15:48,720
tree line near the river's edge

5111
03:15:52,550 --> 03:15:50,080
traveling and weaving while

5112
03:15:53,830 --> 03:15:52,560
simultaneously our two dogs began

5113
03:15:56,630 --> 03:15:53,840
barking

5114
03:15:58,469 --> 03:15:56,640
quite loudly and taking off toward it

5115
03:16:00,870 --> 03:15:58,479
i heard an adult and the group wonder

5116
03:16:03,349 --> 03:16:00,880
out loud who might be coming to visit

5117
03:16:05,269 --> 03:16:03,359
they assumed it was a car but oddly that

5118
03:16:07,910 --> 03:16:05,279
wouldn't make sense as there was only

5119
03:16:09,269 --> 03:16:07,920
one road in and it was nowhere near the

5120
03:16:11,429 --> 03:16:09,279
river

5121
03:16:14,710 --> 03:16:11,439
unexpectedly a bright light appeared

5122
03:16:17,190 --> 03:16:14,720
overhead our group mesmerized looking up

5123
03:16:18,950 --> 03:16:17,200
no one said a word no sound just the

5124
03:16:21,670 --> 03:16:18,960
stillness of the night and a sense of

5125
03:16:24,229 --> 03:16:21,680
something huge looming overhead

5126
03:16:26,870 --> 03:16:24,239
it slowly took off its bright light

5127
03:16:28,950 --> 03:16:26,880
shining across hundreds of acres

5128
03:16:31,269 --> 03:16:28,960
i stood by the barn along with other

5129
03:16:32,469 --> 03:16:31,279
children watching in awe as this event

5130
03:16:34,550 --> 03:16:32,479
unfolded

5131
03:16:36,389 --> 03:16:34,560
my siblings and parents would each later

5132
03:16:38,070 --> 03:16:36,399
recall being in different parts of the

5133
03:16:40,309 --> 03:16:38,080
homestead that night

5134
03:16:43,429 --> 03:16:40,319
interestingly no one could figure out

5135
03:16:45,510 --> 03:16:43,439
who the other mysterious children were

5136
03:16:48,070 --> 03:16:45,520
we heard on the car radio as we headed

5137
03:16:50,229 --> 03:16:48,080
home that some fishermen few miles away

5138
03:16:51,990 --> 03:16:50,239
had encountered an unexplained object

5139
03:16:53,910 --> 03:16:52,000
the same night

5140
03:16:57,110 --> 03:16:53,920
our family never discussed it until

5141
03:16:59,269 --> 03:16:57,120
years later after other events unfolded

5142
03:17:01,349 --> 03:16:59,279
many strange synchronicities would occur

5143
03:17:04,150 --> 03:17:01,359
over the years especially after we came

5144
03:17:06,309 --> 03:17:04,160
back to the states in the late 60s

5145
03:17:08,870 --> 03:17:06,319
fast forward to the early morning of

5146
03:17:10,870 --> 03:17:08,880
january 2007

5147
03:17:12,710 --> 03:17:10,880
after 20 plus successful years in

5148
03:17:14,710 --> 03:17:12,720
corporate i now had the privilege of

5149
03:17:17,030 --> 03:17:14,720
being a stay-at-home mom and that

5150
03:17:19,190 --> 03:17:17,040
particular january morning like

5151
03:17:21,190 --> 03:17:19,200
clockwork i walked by two children down

5152
03:17:22,550 --> 03:17:21,200
the long driveway in the dark to await

5153
03:17:24,469 --> 03:17:22,560
the school bus

5154
03:17:26,070 --> 03:17:24,479
as they chatted among themselves looking

5155
03:17:29,110 --> 03:17:26,080
in the opposite direction i was

5156
03:17:30,710 --> 03:17:29,120
mesmerized by a sphere now weaving and

5157
03:17:32,710 --> 03:17:30,720
floating towards us

5158
03:17:34,550 --> 03:17:32,720
it was softly glowing inside it was

5159
03:17:36,870 --> 03:17:34,560
about the size of a basketball and it

5160
03:17:39,429 --> 03:17:36,880
was traveling only a few feet above the

5161
03:17:42,389 --> 03:17:39,439
road toward me and below the tree line

5162
03:17:44,630 --> 03:17:42,399
it was quiet and oddly i was calm except

5163
03:17:46,389 --> 03:17:44,640
for the rush of adrenaline i now sense

5164
03:17:48,790 --> 03:17:46,399
flowing through my veins

5165
03:17:51,269 --> 03:17:48,800
it felt conscious and yet i was not

5166
03:17:52,870 --> 03:17:51,279
afraid in fact my feelings were one of

5167
03:17:55,110 --> 03:17:52,880
recognition of it

5168
03:17:57,429 --> 03:17:55,120
yet this had never happened before

5169
03:18:00,070 --> 03:17:57,439
it began to dematerialize as soon as the

5170
03:18:02,309 --> 03:18:00,080
school bus strolled in i watched a cloak

5171
03:18:04,550 --> 03:18:02,319
traveling over the bus toward the front

5172
03:18:06,790 --> 03:18:04,560
pasture as my kids were boarding and it

5173
03:18:08,550 --> 03:18:06,800
floated over my neighbor dawn's roof and

5174
03:18:10,630 --> 03:18:08,560
it disappeared

5175
03:18:12,790 --> 03:18:10,640
back inside the house i went and well

5176
03:18:14,790 --> 03:18:12,800
rested from the previous night's sleep i

5177
03:18:17,510 --> 03:18:14,800
usually would have 20 or more chores to

5178
03:18:19,269 --> 03:18:17,520
do and yet perhaps in shock i felt

5179
03:18:20,229 --> 03:18:19,279
suddenly the urge to go lie down for a

5180
03:18:23,110 --> 03:18:20,239
nap

5181
03:18:25,429 --> 03:18:23,120
i awoke four hours later to a sound

5182
03:18:27,349 --> 03:18:25,439
unlike anything i had ever heard the

5183
03:18:29,750 --> 03:18:27,359
glass windows throughout the house were

5184
03:18:32,790 --> 03:18:29,760
rattling loudly to the vibration of what

5185
03:18:33,910 --> 03:18:32,800
sounded like a military helicopter above

5186
03:18:36,070 --> 03:18:33,920
my roof

5187
03:18:37,910 --> 03:18:36,080
i bolted up disoriented and ran

5188
03:18:39,510 --> 03:18:37,920
downstairs to look but now there was

5189
03:18:41,510 --> 03:18:39,520
complete silence

5190
03:18:43,269 --> 03:18:41,520
several hours later kids back from

5191
03:18:45,349 --> 03:18:43,279
school and were hanging out in the den

5192
03:18:46,950 --> 03:18:45,359
when suddenly that helicopter sound

5193
03:18:48,710 --> 03:18:46,960
began again

5194
03:18:50,790 --> 03:18:48,720
my windows are rattling and by this

5195
03:18:53,110 --> 03:18:50,800
point i'm pissed off i'm wondering why

5196
03:18:55,670 --> 03:18:53,120
some idiot in a helicopter is flying so

5197
03:18:57,910 --> 03:18:55,680
close to my roof i felt like my windows

5198
03:18:59,990 --> 03:18:57,920
were going to break and so i run outside

5199
03:19:01,750 --> 03:19:00,000
but again nothing was there and the

5200
03:19:03,590 --> 03:19:01,760
sound had stopped

5201
03:19:05,510 --> 03:19:03,600
i'm confused and really trying hard to

5202
03:19:06,950 --> 03:19:05,520
process what is happening

5203
03:19:08,870 --> 03:19:06,960
later that evening

5204
03:19:11,030 --> 03:19:08,880
out to dinner with my husband i share

5205
03:19:12,950 --> 03:19:11,040
these odd events as the kids are playing

5206
03:19:14,870 --> 03:19:12,960
nearby

5207
03:19:16,550 --> 03:19:14,880
and on our return home while everyone

5208
03:19:19,110 --> 03:19:16,560
else is upstairs getting ready for bed

5209
03:19:21,190 --> 03:19:19,120
i'm in the kitchen prepping our lunches

5210
03:19:23,030 --> 03:19:21,200
and as i stand by the island facing a

5211
03:19:25,190 --> 03:19:23,040
different pasture that is behind my pool

5212
03:19:27,910 --> 03:19:25,200
fence a light of some kind is now

5213
03:19:29,910 --> 03:19:27,920
traveling slowly along the fence line

5214
03:19:31,830 --> 03:19:29,920
and it's just a few feet off the ground

5215
03:19:33,830 --> 03:19:31,840
it's very luminous and i watch it in

5216
03:19:36,710 --> 03:19:33,840
between the fence crack

5217
03:19:38,790 --> 03:19:36,720
i step outside quietly and i go in to

5218
03:19:41,349 --> 03:19:38,800
investigate

5219
03:19:44,150 --> 03:19:41,359
again the sound of a helicopter above

5220
03:19:47,349 --> 03:19:44,160
and yet it's pitch dark and nothing else

5221
03:19:49,429 --> 03:19:47,359
i don't understand what's going on

5222
03:19:51,670 --> 03:19:49,439
up until that night i had never been

5223
03:19:54,389 --> 03:19:51,680
interested in nor had i pursued anything

5224
03:19:56,550 --> 03:19:54,399
related to the study of ufos i did reach

5225
03:19:59,349 --> 03:19:56,560
out to mufon on this one occasion after

5226
03:20:01,190 --> 03:19:59,359
the event of 2007 and i was informed

5227
03:20:03,030 --> 03:20:01,200
that three other cases within a few

5228
03:20:06,150 --> 03:20:03,040
miles of my home had actually been

5229
03:20:08,229 --> 03:20:06,160
reported on the same day

5230
03:20:11,750 --> 03:20:08,239
now while traveling in peru a couple

5231
03:20:13,910 --> 03:20:11,760
years later in fact in 2009 i had sensed

5232
03:20:15,990 --> 03:20:13,920
their presence i began to shoot video

5233
03:20:17,990 --> 03:20:16,000
but it would be several years later when

5234
03:20:20,150 --> 03:20:18,000
trying to transfer that video format to

5235
03:20:22,710 --> 03:20:20,160
another device that i discovered that i

5236
03:20:24,790 --> 03:20:22,720
had the ufo in my shot

5237
03:20:27,110 --> 03:20:24,800
the picture is proof of ufo being real

5238
03:20:28,469 --> 03:20:27,120
and it is pinned on my at mystic monsie

5239
03:20:30,309 --> 03:20:28,479
twitter account

5240
03:20:32,870 --> 03:20:30,319
i've always felt guided and protected

5241
03:20:34,950 --> 03:20:32,880
and even more so now as i on any given

5242
03:20:37,030 --> 03:20:34,960
day or night do sense their presence and

5243
03:20:39,429 --> 03:20:37,040
i do see their craft often

5244
03:20:41,110 --> 03:20:39,439
it is always benevolent for me it has

5245
03:20:43,190 --> 03:20:41,120
brought me deeper and a more profound

5246
03:20:48,710 --> 03:20:43,200
connection to god and i'm really feeling

5247
03:20:51,320 --> 03:20:50,229
hello everyone

5248
03:20:52,630 --> 03:20:51,330
stephen lloyd here

5249
03:20:56,229 --> 03:20:52,640
[Music]

5250
03:20:58,630 --> 03:20:56,239
i've been invited to talk about my

5251
03:21:01,190 --> 03:20:58,640
ufo experience

5252
03:21:05,030 --> 03:21:01,200
back in the early 90s

5253
03:21:07,190 --> 03:21:05,040
i was eight 19 or 20 at the time

5254
03:21:09,110 --> 03:21:07,200
and i was attending bac college in

5255
03:21:11,990 --> 03:21:09,120
granite city illinois

5256
03:21:13,910 --> 03:21:12,000
before all this happened i was a skeptic

5257
03:21:15,590 --> 03:21:13,920
i'd always been a skeptic i don't i

5258
03:21:18,630 --> 03:21:15,600
never believed in such things even

5259
03:21:21,429 --> 03:21:18,640
though i was a i'm a huge fan of the

5260
03:21:24,389 --> 03:21:21,439
original three star wars movies and

5261
03:21:26,309 --> 03:21:24,399
close encounters of the third kind

5262
03:21:29,349 --> 03:21:26,319
but i didn't believe

5263
03:21:31,990 --> 03:21:29,359
like millions of other people out there

5264
03:21:33,830 --> 03:21:32,000
who have a hard time believing

5265
03:21:36,389 --> 03:21:33,840
uh ufos exist

5266
03:21:37,590 --> 03:21:36,399
other planets with life forms on them

5267
03:21:40,790 --> 03:21:37,600
exist

5268
03:21:43,590 --> 03:21:40,800
but i am a firm believer

5269
03:21:46,150 --> 03:21:43,600
sitting here today and tell you

5270
03:21:48,550 --> 03:21:46,160
that they do exist

5271
03:21:51,030 --> 03:21:48,560
but in the early 90s i was sitting at a

5272
03:21:52,870 --> 03:21:51,040
intersection waiting to

5273
03:21:54,469 --> 03:21:52,880
for the light to change and i saw

5274
03:21:55,830 --> 03:21:54,479
something moving out of the corner of my

5275
03:21:59,429 --> 03:21:55,840
eye

5276
03:22:02,229 --> 03:21:59,439
and i thought it was a blimp or a uh

5277
03:22:04,070 --> 03:22:02,239
or a balloon of some sort

5278
03:22:05,830 --> 03:22:04,080
a hot air balloon

5279
03:22:07,990 --> 03:22:05,840
and as it got closer i realized it was

5280
03:22:09,830 --> 03:22:08,000
moving way too quick to be

5281
03:22:13,030 --> 03:22:09,840
either one of those

5282
03:22:17,030 --> 03:22:13,040
and then it came into view so clear

5283
03:22:18,550 --> 03:22:17,040
at one point that i realized that uh

5284
03:22:19,750 --> 03:22:18,560
i'd never seen anything like it before

5285
03:22:22,630 --> 03:22:19,760
in my life

5286
03:22:24,870 --> 03:22:22,640
it was a silver ball

5287
03:22:29,429 --> 03:22:24,880
about the size

5288
03:22:34,070 --> 03:22:32,070
tractor trailer maybe

5289
03:22:37,910 --> 03:22:34,080
it passed over the intersection and made

5290
03:22:39,510 --> 03:22:37,920
no noise whatsoever when it crossed

5291
03:22:41,030 --> 03:22:39,520
people started honking their horns

5292
03:22:42,710 --> 03:22:41,040
letting other people know what was going

5293
03:22:44,630 --> 03:22:42,720
on but i already knew what was going on

5294
03:22:46,309 --> 03:22:44,640
and it was exciting my heart was beating

5295
03:22:48,870 --> 03:22:46,319
so fast

5296
03:22:50,309 --> 03:22:48,880
that i could hardly accept what was

5297
03:22:53,190 --> 03:22:50,319
going on

5298
03:22:55,030 --> 03:22:53,200
because i'd been except a skeptic

5299
03:22:56,309 --> 03:22:55,040
the whole time my whole life up until

5300
03:22:58,710 --> 03:22:56,319
that point

5301
03:23:00,710 --> 03:22:58,720
and as it silently made its way over the

5302
03:23:02,950 --> 03:23:00,720
intersection heading toward granite city

5303
03:23:05,349 --> 03:23:02,960
illinois about

5304
03:23:08,229 --> 03:23:05,359
four miles down the road

5305
03:23:11,110 --> 03:23:08,239
i'd say probably about maybe a minute or

5306
03:23:14,710 --> 03:23:13,110
after it crossed over

5307
03:23:17,830 --> 03:23:14,720
there were

5308
03:23:20,229 --> 03:23:17,840
three maybe four fighter jets following

5309
03:23:22,469 --> 03:23:20,239
it of course we didn't we didn't we

5310
03:23:24,229 --> 03:23:22,479
didn't see these jets until they were up

5311
03:23:27,030 --> 03:23:24,239
right up on us

5312
03:23:28,150 --> 03:23:27,040
and man they were loud passing over and

5313
03:23:30,469 --> 03:23:28,160
then

5314
03:23:32,070 --> 03:23:30,479
this silver ball and these jets

5315
03:23:35,429 --> 03:23:32,080
chasing it

5316
03:23:36,870 --> 03:23:35,439
they were probably about 30 feet above

5317
03:23:38,790 --> 03:23:36,880
the lights

5318
03:23:40,389 --> 03:23:38,800
they were they were flying pretty damn

5319
03:23:41,510 --> 03:23:40,399
low

5320
03:23:42,710 --> 03:23:41,520
and uh

5321
03:23:43,510 --> 03:23:42,720
i just couldn't believe what i was

5322
03:23:44,870 --> 03:23:43,520
seeing

5323
03:23:47,110 --> 03:23:44,880
you know i had a guy roll down his

5324
03:23:48,870 --> 03:23:47,120
window next to me and he's like did you

5325
03:23:50,950 --> 03:23:48,880
see that

5326
03:23:52,950 --> 03:23:50,960
and we were both laughing and just

5327
03:23:54,550 --> 03:23:52,960
carrying on like it was the best thing

5328
03:23:56,710 --> 03:23:54,560
in the world you know

5329
03:23:58,630 --> 03:23:56,720
and i don't know if the guy

5330
03:24:00,630 --> 03:23:58,640
across for me

5331
03:24:03,750 --> 03:24:00,640
believed in them before

5332
03:24:05,830 --> 03:24:03,760
before this but i know i didn't

5333
03:24:08,550 --> 03:24:05,840
and uh

5334
03:24:10,229 --> 03:24:08,560
the light changed back to red of course

5335
03:24:11,830 --> 03:24:10,239
most of us missed

5336
03:24:14,309 --> 03:24:11,840
you know a chance to go but we just

5337
03:24:17,269 --> 03:24:14,319
could not believe what we had seen

5338
03:24:19,590 --> 03:24:17,279
when i got over to the college

5339
03:24:21,269 --> 03:24:19,600
i got in class i started telling all you

5340
03:24:23,830 --> 03:24:21,279
know all my classmates yeah you're not

5341
03:24:25,750 --> 03:24:23,840
going to believe what i just saw

5342
03:24:26,630 --> 03:24:25,760
and uh and of course they didn't believe

5343
03:24:31,429 --> 03:24:26,640
me

5344
03:24:32,550 --> 03:24:31,439
you know i thought it was kind of funny

5345
03:24:35,349 --> 03:24:32,560
that uh

5346
03:24:39,030 --> 03:24:35,359
at one time i would have been them

5347
03:24:40,870 --> 03:24:39,040
you know not believing someone

5348
03:24:43,269 --> 03:24:40,880
but uh

5349
03:24:45,429 --> 03:24:43,279
we're not alone in this galaxy we're not

5350
03:24:46,309 --> 03:24:45,439
we're definitely not alone

5351
03:24:47,670 --> 03:24:46,319
you know

5352
03:24:51,269 --> 03:24:47,680
the world

5353
03:24:53,429 --> 03:24:51,279
the the galaxy we cannot be the only

5354
03:24:54,469 --> 03:24:53,439
ones

5355
03:24:56,550 --> 03:24:54,479
you know

5356
03:24:58,790 --> 03:24:56,560
having a life

5357
03:25:01,670 --> 03:24:58,800
there's got to be other worlds out there

5358
03:25:03,910 --> 03:25:01,680
that we have not even come close to

5359
03:25:06,830 --> 03:25:03,920
to uh seeing

5360
03:25:09,830 --> 03:25:06,840
you know there's just no way

5361
03:25:11,830 --> 03:25:09,840
um this course i told my parents when i

5362
03:25:13,110 --> 03:25:11,840
got home

5363
03:25:15,030 --> 03:25:13,120
and uh

5364
03:25:16,710 --> 03:25:15,040
at the time i was still living and

5365
03:25:18,710 --> 03:25:16,720
living there with them

5366
03:25:20,389 --> 03:25:18,720
and they didn't believe me either

5367
03:25:21,510 --> 03:25:20,399
my little brother thought you got a kick

5368
03:25:25,110 --> 03:25:21,520
out of it he was a little younger than

5369
03:25:28,229 --> 03:25:26,229
i just knew there was going to be

5370
03:25:31,510 --> 03:25:28,239
something on the news about it

5371
03:25:33,830 --> 03:25:31,520
there had to be it was you know

5372
03:25:35,030 --> 03:25:33,840
there had to be something

5373
03:25:36,630 --> 03:25:35,040
aired

5374
03:25:38,229 --> 03:25:36,640
about the sighting

5375
03:25:40,150 --> 03:25:38,239
but after a week

5376
03:25:44,950 --> 03:25:40,160
nothing

5377
03:25:47,510 --> 03:25:44,960
else and i was too young

5378
03:25:51,269 --> 03:25:47,520
to uh to think about calling scott air

5379
03:25:55,190 --> 03:25:51,279
force base which is based out

5380
03:25:57,990 --> 03:25:55,200
past uh probably about 40 40 miles out

5381
03:26:01,269 --> 03:25:58,000
past fairview heights illinois

5382
03:26:02,309 --> 03:26:01,279
i didn't call them you know i guess

5383
03:26:03,830 --> 03:26:02,319
you know

5384
03:26:06,309 --> 03:26:03,840
thinking about it now they probably

5385
03:26:08,389 --> 03:26:06,319
would have lied and said

5386
03:26:09,510 --> 03:26:08,399
that i was crazy there was nothing out

5387
03:26:10,950 --> 03:26:09,520
there of course there had to have been

5388
03:26:13,830 --> 03:26:10,960
something out there to have their jets

5389
03:26:16,389 --> 03:26:13,840
out there the air force chasing it

5390
03:26:18,469 --> 03:26:16,399
it was just a memorable experience that

5391
03:26:20,150 --> 03:26:18,479
i will never forget

5392
03:26:21,910 --> 03:26:20,160
it changed my whole outlook on

5393
03:26:24,389 --> 03:26:21,920
everything

5394
03:26:26,710 --> 03:26:24,399
it's one of those things that

5395
03:26:28,150 --> 03:26:26,720
that you dwell on you don't talk too

5396
03:26:29,349 --> 03:26:28,160
much about it

5397
03:26:30,790 --> 03:26:29,359
you know

5398
03:26:33,830 --> 03:26:30,800
but uh

5399
03:26:35,429 --> 03:26:33,840
because people think you're crazy

5400
03:26:38,150 --> 03:26:35,439
of course people think you're crazy i've

5401
03:26:40,309 --> 03:26:38,160
never seen anything not yet

5402
03:26:42,229 --> 03:26:40,319
but uh in their life

5403
03:26:43,910 --> 03:26:42,239
but it was memorable

5404
03:26:45,670 --> 03:26:43,920
it was exciting it was an adrenaline

5405
03:26:48,710 --> 03:26:45,680
rush

5406
03:26:50,950 --> 03:26:48,720
and i'm glad i was i was there to uh to

5407
03:26:51,830 --> 03:26:50,960
see it all go down i just thought it was

5408
03:26:53,830 --> 03:26:51,840
just

5409
03:26:55,750 --> 03:26:53,840
absolutely amazing

5410
03:26:58,550 --> 03:26:55,760
and it'll change your life it'll change

5411
03:26:59,750 --> 03:26:58,560
your whole outlook on what you think you

5412
03:27:02,070 --> 03:26:59,760
know

5413
03:27:03,990 --> 03:27:02,080
and i've always said this too

5414
03:27:04,710 --> 03:27:04,000
human beings have been on this planet

5415
03:27:06,309 --> 03:27:04,720
for

5416
03:27:08,870 --> 03:27:06,319
millions of years

5417
03:27:12,710 --> 03:27:08,880
and you can't tell me

5418
03:27:14,229 --> 03:27:12,720
that in the last 120 years we've come up

5419
03:27:15,670 --> 03:27:14,239
we've come up with what we've come up

5420
03:27:17,429 --> 03:27:15,680
with today

5421
03:27:18,870 --> 03:27:17,439
it's like uh

5422
03:27:21,349 --> 03:27:18,880
why didn't they come out with this stuff

5423
03:27:23,590 --> 03:27:21,359
millions of years ago planes automobiles

5424
03:27:25,349 --> 03:27:23,600
things like that

5425
03:27:27,110 --> 03:27:25,359
something's behind it there was some

5426
03:27:29,349 --> 03:27:27,120
intelligence that got to somebody and

5427
03:27:31,429 --> 03:27:29,359
and started teaching them

5428
03:27:33,990 --> 03:27:31,439
you know and

5429
03:27:36,150 --> 03:27:34,000
it's just weird that uh

5430
03:27:39,510 --> 03:27:36,160
we've come as far as we have

5431
03:27:40,830 --> 03:27:39,520
and what we have today computers cars

5432
03:27:44,070 --> 03:27:40,840
airplanes

5433
03:27:46,710 --> 03:27:44,080
computers where you know about the size

5434
03:27:49,030 --> 03:27:46,720
size of your thumbnail even smaller

5435
03:27:50,950 --> 03:27:49,040
where did all the technology come from

5436
03:27:53,990 --> 03:27:50,960
that's that's something to think about

5437
03:27:57,510 --> 03:27:54,000
did it come from outer space could be

5438
03:27:59,030 --> 03:27:57,520
but that is my story about my first ufo

5439
03:28:00,469 --> 03:27:59,040
encounter

5440
03:28:01,590 --> 03:28:00,479
and maybe one of these days i'll have

5441
03:28:04,469 --> 03:28:01,600
another one

5442
03:28:08,389 --> 03:28:06,389
it's july 18

5443
03:28:10,389 --> 03:28:08,399
2020

5444
03:28:11,590 --> 03:28:10,399
about 11 o'clock at night my wife and i

5445
03:28:13,429 --> 03:28:11,600
came out

5446
03:28:15,510 --> 03:28:13,439
take some pictures of comet kneel-wise

5447
03:28:17,590 --> 03:28:15,520
before it was gone

5448
03:28:19,590 --> 03:28:17,600
we're sitting in the backyard facing

5449
03:28:21,990 --> 03:28:19,600
north towards a comet

5450
03:28:24,630 --> 03:28:22,000
we have a few acres here's a 20-acre

5451
03:28:26,150 --> 03:28:24,640
farm field behind our house

5452
03:28:28,630 --> 03:28:26,160
that's surrounded by

5453
03:28:31,349 --> 03:28:28,640
a rich line of trees

5454
03:28:33,590 --> 03:28:31,359
and we're sitting in chairs

5455
03:28:36,710 --> 03:28:33,600
we had just got done taking pictures and

5456
03:28:39,030 --> 03:28:36,720
i see off to my left which is the west

5457
03:28:40,790 --> 03:28:39,040
a bright light

5458
03:28:43,110 --> 03:28:40,800
i thought it was like a little blue uh

5459
03:28:45,349 --> 03:28:43,120
blue beam but i credit that to being the

5460
03:28:46,950 --> 03:28:45,359
reflection off my glasses

5461
03:28:49,030 --> 03:28:46,960
just the way it was i don't know if

5462
03:28:50,870 --> 03:28:49,040
there was an actual beam or not

5463
03:28:53,030 --> 03:28:50,880
but anyways

5464
03:28:54,710 --> 03:28:53,040
look off to my left and i'm like why is

5465
03:28:57,110 --> 03:28:54,720
that bright light see it's light that's

5466
03:28:58,070 --> 03:28:57,120
shining through the trees as it's moving

5467
03:29:00,150 --> 03:28:58,080
okay

5468
03:29:02,389 --> 03:29:00,160
the way sunlight does with

5469
03:29:04,550 --> 03:29:02,399
uh leaves and stuff

5470
03:29:07,030 --> 03:29:04,560
but uh so i get up out of my chair in

5471
03:29:09,910 --> 03:29:07,040
them i walk north a little ways

5472
03:29:11,110 --> 03:29:09,920
and i'm watching this light as it's just

5473
03:29:13,030 --> 03:29:11,120
coming

5474
03:29:16,550 --> 03:29:13,040
i don't know how else to say it

5475
03:29:18,710 --> 03:29:16,560
but it's coming flying towards us well

5476
03:29:20,710 --> 03:29:18,720
it's south of us actually but it's still

5477
03:29:21,510 --> 03:29:20,720
it's coming along the tree line where

5478
03:29:24,950 --> 03:29:21,520
the

5479
03:29:26,790 --> 03:29:24,960
and i think maybe five ten seconds went

5480
03:29:27,830 --> 03:29:26,800
by and i'm like oh crap grab the camera

5481
03:29:30,229 --> 03:29:27,840
film this

5482
03:29:31,670 --> 03:29:30,239
so i went and got my camera and i'm

5483
03:29:34,469 --> 03:29:31,680
starting to film it

5484
03:29:35,269 --> 03:29:34,479
and it's just going over not making a

5485
03:29:36,150 --> 03:29:35,279
sound

5486
03:29:38,070 --> 03:29:36,160
it's not

5487
03:29:39,590 --> 03:29:38,080
doing anything remarkable it's just

5488
03:29:43,190 --> 03:29:39,600
going

5489
03:29:45,269 --> 03:29:43,200
like oh okay well that's a different

5490
03:29:47,030 --> 03:29:45,279
so i've filmed it

5491
03:29:49,670 --> 03:29:47,040
it went out of sight because we were

5492
03:29:51,030 --> 03:29:49,680
lost in the trees off to the east of us

5493
03:29:51,910 --> 03:29:51,040
[Music]

5494
03:29:54,469 --> 03:29:51,920
and

5495
03:29:56,389 --> 03:29:54,479
put the camera down i put out my

5496
03:29:58,550 --> 03:29:56,399
phone because i'm like i'm gonna check

5497
03:30:01,030 --> 03:29:58,560
flight radar it's an app you can get

5498
03:30:02,870 --> 03:30:01,040
shows you all the location of any

5499
03:30:05,910 --> 03:30:02,880
aircraft in the sky around you gives you

5500
03:30:06,870 --> 03:30:05,920
their altitude speed heading what not

5501
03:30:08,389 --> 03:30:06,880
and

5502
03:30:10,229 --> 03:30:08,399
i'm curious what kind what kind of

5503
03:30:12,389 --> 03:30:10,239
aircraft was that

5504
03:30:13,990 --> 03:30:12,399
and

5505
03:30:16,630 --> 03:30:14,000
there's no aircraft in our area

5506
03:30:19,670 --> 03:30:16,640
according to that app nothing

5507
03:30:22,870 --> 03:30:19,680
and i know in the video the light looks

5508
03:30:24,309 --> 03:30:22,880
purplish but it was a low-light camera

5509
03:30:26,710 --> 03:30:24,319
uh

5510
03:30:29,190 --> 03:30:26,720
psionics aurora is the type of camera

5511
03:30:31,670 --> 03:30:29,200
it's like a digital night vision type

5512
03:30:33,510 --> 03:30:31,680
it's a poor man's night vision because i

5513
03:30:35,110 --> 03:30:33,520
only paid like 300 bucks for it maybe a

5514
03:30:36,630 --> 03:30:35,120
little more

5515
03:30:38,389 --> 03:30:36,640
and uh

5516
03:30:40,070 --> 03:30:38,399
but to the

5517
03:30:42,550 --> 03:30:40,080
naked eye

5518
03:30:45,190 --> 03:30:42,560
it looked like a pure beautiful

5519
03:30:47,990 --> 03:30:45,200
white light just intense white light

5520
03:30:49,269 --> 03:30:48,000
with maybe a tinge of blue to it

5521
03:30:52,309 --> 03:30:49,279
well okay

5522
03:30:53,590 --> 03:30:52,319
a good analogy is a welder's ark

5523
03:30:55,590 --> 03:30:53,600
it looked like when you look over at

5524
03:30:57,590 --> 03:30:55,600
somebody that's welding

5525
03:30:59,510 --> 03:30:57,600
it was it looked like that

5526
03:31:00,389 --> 03:30:59,520
just bright white with a little bit of

5527
03:31:02,950 --> 03:31:00,399
blue

5528
03:31:05,190 --> 03:31:02,960
so i go inside the house after that

5529
03:31:06,150 --> 03:31:05,200
i'm like ask my wife did you see it she

5530
03:31:08,469 --> 03:31:06,160
was like no

5531
03:31:09,269 --> 03:31:08,479
she never got up to look she now regrets

5532
03:31:12,070 --> 03:31:09,279
that

5533
03:31:14,150 --> 03:31:12,080
and she wish he wishes she would have

5534
03:31:15,269 --> 03:31:14,160
but uh i go in the house i look at the

5535
03:31:17,349 --> 03:31:15,279
clock it's

5536
03:31:19,349 --> 03:31:17,359
11 33

5537
03:31:21,190 --> 03:31:19,359
so i upload it from the camera to my

5538
03:31:24,950 --> 03:31:21,200
computer and i watch it a couple times

5539
03:31:27,190 --> 03:31:24,960
i'm like man that is really interesting

5540
03:31:28,790 --> 03:31:27,200
i know it wasn't the iss

5541
03:31:31,190 --> 03:31:28,800
i know it wasn't a chinese lantern

5542
03:31:33,190 --> 03:31:31,200
because chinese lantern you can always

5543
03:31:34,710 --> 03:31:33,200
you see the fire at the bottom of it you

5544
03:31:36,309 --> 03:31:34,720
can see the

5545
03:31:38,229 --> 03:31:36,319
light gradient the intensity of the

5546
03:31:40,950 --> 03:31:38,239
light's different it's all at the bottom

5547
03:31:42,710 --> 03:31:40,960
even though the whole lantern's lit up

5548
03:31:44,309 --> 03:31:42,720
if it was a drone i'm gonna have a drone

5549
03:31:46,710 --> 03:31:44,319
pilot myself

5550
03:31:48,870 --> 03:31:46,720
i'd like to see that person set up

5551
03:31:51,269 --> 03:31:48,880
because one i didn't hear it and i can

5552
03:31:53,830 --> 03:31:51,279
hear mine at 400 feet

5553
03:31:56,389 --> 03:31:53,840
and two the

5554
03:31:59,190 --> 03:31:56,399
system or battery setup the weight that

5555
03:32:01,670 --> 03:31:59,200
would require to be that intense

5556
03:32:03,670 --> 03:32:01,680
of a light i would have heard that the

5557
03:32:05,750 --> 03:32:03,680
props on that drone because they would

5558
03:32:08,550 --> 03:32:05,760
have had to have some serious batteries

5559
03:32:10,229 --> 03:32:08,560
and weight to be able to be that bright

5560
03:32:11,910 --> 03:32:10,239
i'm not saying it's aliens i'm saying i

5561
03:32:13,750 --> 03:32:11,920
don't know what it was

5562
03:32:16,150 --> 03:32:13,760
that's all i'm saying

5563
03:32:17,269 --> 03:32:16,160
i eventually got hold of columbus

5564
03:32:19,429 --> 03:32:17,279
approach

5565
03:32:21,510 --> 03:32:19,439
out of columbus the air traffic control

5566
03:32:23,670 --> 03:32:21,520
tower and asked them if they had any

5567
03:32:26,070 --> 03:32:23,680
radar returns on aircraft that flew over

5568
03:32:28,389 --> 03:32:26,080
a house at that time

5569
03:32:29,670 --> 03:32:28,399
the guy was asked wondering why i'm

5570
03:32:31,349 --> 03:32:29,680
asking that question i didn't really

5571
03:32:32,950 --> 03:32:31,359
want to say hey i saw a bright ball of

5572
03:32:35,030 --> 03:32:32,960
light fly over my house

5573
03:32:36,389 --> 03:32:35,040
i was just saying an aircraft

5574
03:32:39,030 --> 03:32:36,399
eventually i had to tell him it was a

5575
03:32:40,870 --> 03:32:39,040
bright ball of light and i'm sure he

5576
03:32:42,550 --> 03:32:40,880
thought oh great i get all these weirdos

5577
03:32:44,950 --> 03:32:42,560
on a monday

5578
03:32:47,030 --> 03:32:44,960
i described what it was he didn't really

5579
03:32:48,790 --> 03:32:47,040
sound interested until i said i had it

5580
03:32:50,630 --> 03:32:48,800
on video

5581
03:32:52,950 --> 03:32:50,640
he asked for a copy of the video i sent

5582
03:32:54,309 --> 03:32:52,960
him a copy of the video

5583
03:32:56,550 --> 03:32:54,319
and uh

5584
03:32:58,870 --> 03:32:56,560
he asked for then i got an email asking

5585
03:33:00,550 --> 03:32:58,880
for a detailed report on it

5586
03:33:01,510 --> 03:33:00,560
sent that to him

5587
03:33:03,510 --> 03:33:01,520
um

5588
03:33:04,950 --> 03:33:03,520
i'm sure i'm leaving things out here i'm

5589
03:33:07,269 --> 03:33:04,960
trying not to

5590
03:33:09,429 --> 03:33:07,279
didn't hear back from for a couple days

5591
03:33:11,590 --> 03:33:09,439
i emailed him again

5592
03:33:13,190 --> 03:33:11,600
and he asked for my mailing address her

5593
03:33:14,790 --> 03:33:13,200
home address

5594
03:33:16,630 --> 03:33:14,800
and that made me a little nervous

5595
03:33:18,389 --> 03:33:16,640
because i like

5596
03:33:20,950 --> 03:33:18,399
i like my privacy i really don't want

5597
03:33:22,150 --> 03:33:20,960
people coming and knocking my door

5598
03:33:23,910 --> 03:33:22,160
um

5599
03:33:25,990 --> 03:33:23,920
so i gave it to him because i figured

5600
03:33:27,429 --> 03:33:26,000
screw it you know what the hell so i

5601
03:33:29,349 --> 03:33:27,439
gave it to him he said he was going to

5602
03:33:31,429 --> 03:33:29,359
send me a letter he never has

5603
03:33:32,550 --> 03:33:31,439
i did follow our freedom of information

5604
03:33:35,349 --> 03:33:32,560
request

5605
03:33:38,070 --> 03:33:35,359
for the radar returns out of columbus

5606
03:33:39,990 --> 03:33:38,080
between the hours of 10 45 pm

5607
03:33:42,710 --> 03:33:40,000
and the 11

5608
03:33:43,900 --> 03:33:42,720
11 30 pm of that night

5609
03:33:45,190 --> 03:33:43,910
we'll see where it goes

5610
03:33:47,990 --> 03:33:45,200
[Music]

5611
03:33:49,830 --> 03:33:48,000
um as far as how it made me feel

5612
03:33:51,349 --> 03:33:49,840
i felt really

5613
03:33:53,110 --> 03:33:51,359
calm

5614
03:33:55,750 --> 03:33:53,120
and

5615
03:33:57,750 --> 03:33:55,760
i don't know it felt like

5616
03:33:59,750 --> 03:33:57,760
i was meant to see it

5617
03:34:01,110 --> 03:33:59,760
i know it sounds stupid

5618
03:34:03,110 --> 03:34:01,120
i don't get it

5619
03:34:05,510 --> 03:34:03,120
it was just

5620
03:34:07,750 --> 03:34:05,520
i felt like i was meant to see that

5621
03:34:10,630 --> 03:34:07,760
at that point in time

5622
03:34:12,630 --> 03:34:10,640
for some reason and why

5623
03:34:15,510 --> 03:34:12,640
i don't know

5624
03:34:17,269 --> 03:34:15,520
it was like a very

5625
03:34:19,190 --> 03:34:17,279
i don't want to say personal experience

5626
03:34:21,030 --> 03:34:19,200
because damn anyone look up at sky

5627
03:34:22,229 --> 03:34:21,040
christina thing but i don't know how to

5628
03:34:23,590 --> 03:34:22,239
describe it

5629
03:34:25,030 --> 03:34:23,600
it just felt

5630
03:34:27,110 --> 03:34:25,040
[Music]

5631
03:34:29,750 --> 03:34:27,120
different

5632
03:34:34,110 --> 03:34:29,760
it felt good

5633
03:34:37,670 --> 03:34:34,120
and whatever it was it was beautiful

5634
03:34:40,309 --> 03:34:37,680
[Music]

5635
03:34:42,550 --> 03:34:40,319
oh i saw my second ufo on thursday do

5636
03:34:45,990 --> 03:34:42,560
you want to hear about that

5637
03:34:48,630 --> 03:34:46,000
okay back up second welcome to nooks and

5638
03:34:52,229 --> 03:34:48,640
crannies maddie here i'm joined by my

5639
03:34:54,070 --> 03:34:52,239
speculative and inquisitive co-host evan

5640
03:34:55,670 --> 03:34:54,080
i i think i wasn't present for the last

5641
03:34:58,070 --> 03:34:55,680
two episodes but i'm very happy to be

5642
03:34:59,510 --> 03:34:58,080
back with you maddie uh

5643
03:35:01,030 --> 03:34:59,520
talk to me about these ufos you're

5644
03:35:03,190 --> 03:35:01,040
seeing how are you you feeling okay

5645
03:35:05,030 --> 03:35:03,200
what's going on here well yeah okay so

5646
03:35:06,870 --> 03:35:05,040
this is my second one so i'll tell you

5647
03:35:09,590 --> 03:35:06,880
the most recent one and then we'll we'll

5648
03:35:10,389 --> 03:35:09,600
do the original one the og uh alien

5649
03:35:13,110 --> 03:35:10,399
sighting

5650
03:35:15,030 --> 03:35:13,120
so i it was thursday uh about four

5651
03:35:17,269 --> 03:35:15,040
o'clock in the morning i was like just

5652
03:35:19,190 --> 03:35:17,279
uh you know drinking my coffee taking my

5653
03:35:21,590 --> 03:35:19,200
medicine getting ready for my paper road

5654
03:35:23,510 --> 03:35:21,600
right just like oh god i hate my life

5655
03:35:25,190 --> 03:35:23,520
it's prime alien hours

5656
03:35:26,550 --> 03:35:25,200
yeah well that's what you know it's like

5657
03:35:29,190 --> 03:35:26,560
with the witching hour right between

5658
03:35:31,269 --> 03:35:29,200
three and four so i look off to like say

5659
03:35:35,429 --> 03:35:31,279
like a two o'clock position like on a

5660
03:35:38,550 --> 03:35:35,439
clock and i see a band of like six to

5661
03:35:42,229 --> 03:35:38,560
seven lights it was an odd number um

5662
03:35:45,269 --> 03:35:42,239
in a vertical kind of um orientation

5663
03:35:48,070 --> 03:35:45,279
and the streak was slightly curved like

5664
03:35:50,229 --> 03:35:48,080
like if the butt end of the sea was

5665
03:35:52,710 --> 03:35:50,239
pointing to the right i guess

5666
03:35:55,830 --> 03:35:52,720
just a little bit and there was a smoky

5667
03:35:58,630 --> 03:35:55,840
trail going off uh the back of it and as

5668
03:36:00,790 --> 03:35:58,640
i was looking at it it would turn say

5669
03:36:02,870 --> 03:36:00,800
like 10 degrees to the left and then

5670
03:36:04,950 --> 03:36:02,880
turn like 10 degrees to the right and

5671
03:36:07,750 --> 03:36:04,960
kind of do a little bit of a

5672
03:36:10,790 --> 03:36:07,760
around its center kind of like swivel

5673
03:36:12,710 --> 03:36:10,800
and very kind of slowly but

5674
03:36:16,229 --> 03:36:12,720
too fast for

5675
03:36:18,309 --> 03:36:16,239
like conventional aircraft and i

5676
03:36:20,790 --> 03:36:18,319
at that point at that point i was like

5677
03:36:23,030 --> 03:36:20,800
this is crazy like i'm just gonna stare

5678
03:36:24,229 --> 03:36:23,040
at this and take it all in right at that

5679
03:36:26,070 --> 03:36:24,239
point i'm like

5680
03:36:27,990 --> 03:36:26,080
oh no because i was drinking my morning

5681
03:36:29,830 --> 03:36:28,000
coffee at four in the morning like oh no

5682
03:36:32,870 --> 03:36:29,840
i had to take a

5683
03:36:35,190 --> 03:36:32,880
he had to run inside because honestly

5684
03:36:37,670 --> 03:36:35,200
man if i didn't like clench it was

5685
03:36:38,870 --> 03:36:37,680
coming out like i i almost like crap my

5686
03:36:40,469 --> 03:36:38,880
pants

5687
03:36:42,630 --> 03:36:40,479
just from the coffee and like being

5688
03:36:44,710 --> 03:36:42,640
almost 40. oh you don't have to describe

5689
03:36:46,630 --> 03:36:44,720
the sensation i know it well i think

5690
03:36:48,309 --> 03:36:46,640
we've all been there so i come rushing

5691
03:36:49,670 --> 03:36:48,319
back from the bathroom like please still

5692
03:36:51,429 --> 03:36:49,680
be there because it was moving slow

5693
03:36:54,150 --> 03:36:51,439
enough then there wasn't enough any

5694
03:36:56,150 --> 03:36:54,160
houses kind of obstructing its its path

5695
03:36:59,190 --> 03:36:56,160
and i come out and look where it should

5696
03:37:01,429 --> 03:36:59,200
be maybe like three inches to the right

5697
03:37:03,429 --> 03:37:01,439
and it's just gone

5698
03:37:05,030 --> 03:37:03,439
hmm

5699
03:37:05,910 --> 03:37:05,040
what do you think about that

5700
03:37:07,190 --> 03:37:05,920
well

5701
03:37:09,510 --> 03:37:07,200
this got me wondering do you think

5702
03:37:12,710 --> 03:37:09,520
lights on a ufo are they a used for

5703
03:37:15,110 --> 03:37:12,720
navigation be used to identify like

5704
03:37:17,269 --> 03:37:15,120
whatever things they need to see

5705
03:37:19,590 --> 03:37:17,279
or see is it just the byproduct because

5706
03:37:21,269 --> 03:37:19,600
you'd think if alien crafts came over

5707
03:37:23,110 --> 03:37:21,279
they wouldn't need lights for like

5708
03:37:24,870 --> 03:37:23,120
navigatory purposes they probably have

5709
03:37:25,990 --> 03:37:24,880
better stuff going on now so what's

5710
03:37:27,429 --> 03:37:26,000
what's the lights what are they doing

5711
03:37:29,110 --> 03:37:27,439
with these lights on

5712
03:37:32,070 --> 03:37:29,120
well maybe it's d they just want to be

5713
03:37:34,229 --> 03:37:32,080
noticed oh oh it's a peacocking type

5714
03:37:35,750 --> 03:37:34,239
thing yeah exactly like that's what i

5715
03:37:38,710 --> 03:37:35,760
would like to believe because you know

5716
03:37:41,269 --> 03:37:38,720
i'm like quite quite the believer so

5717
03:37:43,349 --> 03:37:41,279
yeah i saw that and it was like

5718
03:37:45,910 --> 03:37:43,359
the other thing that i was thinking like

5719
03:37:49,110 --> 03:37:45,920
i live on vancouver island so there's a

5720
03:37:51,030 --> 03:37:49,120
canadian forces base nearby and uh us

5721
03:37:53,830 --> 03:37:51,040
forces based like across the channel of

5722
03:37:55,750 --> 03:37:53,840
water there uh but i mean i've seen

5723
03:37:57,830 --> 03:37:55,760
their like really kind of like

5724
03:38:00,389 --> 03:37:57,840
borderline classified helicopters going

5725
03:38:03,990 --> 03:38:00,399
by and they're loud as this thing

5726
03:38:05,750 --> 03:38:04,000
was dead silence and it was moving

5727
03:38:08,229 --> 03:38:05,760
quickly like it was rather large i would

5728
03:38:10,150 --> 03:38:08,239
say like if i was looking at it it was

5729
03:38:11,670 --> 03:38:10,160
inch and a half two inches sort of from

5730
03:38:13,990 --> 03:38:11,680
top to bottom

5731
03:38:16,229 --> 03:38:14,000
but it seemed like closer but maybe also

5732
03:38:17,670 --> 03:38:16,239
further away and it was spooky man and

5733
03:38:19,269 --> 03:38:17,680
there was like a

5734
03:38:21,510 --> 03:38:19,279
contrail

5735
03:38:24,150 --> 03:38:21,520
behind it as well so like i don't know

5736
03:38:26,950 --> 03:38:24,160
if that's just like an atmospheric thing

5737
03:38:29,110 --> 03:38:26,960
i've seen meteors and and things um you

5738
03:38:30,550 --> 03:38:29,120
know up in the okanagan what have you uh

5739
03:38:32,710 --> 03:38:30,560
it wasn't that

5740
03:38:34,710 --> 03:38:32,720
and and they the band of lights was like

5741
03:38:36,710 --> 03:38:34,720
seven and it was in a in a line and it

5742
03:38:38,389 --> 03:38:36,720
looked like kind of a sea

5743
03:38:41,269 --> 03:38:38,399
well i mean it would be the year for

5744
03:38:43,269 --> 03:38:41,279
that you know if uh if we're about to

5745
03:38:45,190 --> 03:38:43,279
find out some horrifying shocking

5746
03:38:46,950 --> 03:38:45,200
details about the the cosmic scale of

5747
03:38:48,710 --> 03:38:46,960
things uh this would be the year we find

5748
03:38:51,670 --> 03:38:48,720
that out so uh

5749
03:38:53,349 --> 03:38:51,680
that's your most recent sighting but you

5750
03:38:54,950 --> 03:38:53,359
said your second sighting so let's let's

5751
03:38:56,630 --> 03:38:54,960
hear about the first one this is news to

5752
03:38:58,950 --> 03:38:56,640
me

5753
03:39:01,269 --> 03:38:58,960
yeah i keep this a little bit quiet but

5754
03:39:04,550 --> 03:39:01,279
um not as quiet as i keep the fact that

5755
03:39:09,269 --> 03:39:06,630
all right so so the first one was like

5756
03:39:11,429 --> 03:39:09,279
10 years ago right i was off camping in

5757
03:39:14,790 --> 03:39:11,439
a cabin in the woods believe it or not

5758
03:39:16,950 --> 03:39:14,800
in boston bar uh with some buddies and

5759
03:39:20,389 --> 03:39:16,960
you know like it was late at night it

5760
03:39:21,269 --> 03:39:20,399
was probably like 2 30 um crystal clear

5761
03:39:24,469 --> 03:39:21,279
sky

5762
03:39:27,510 --> 03:39:24,479
uh for whatever reason me and my buddy

5763
03:39:29,349 --> 03:39:27,520
uh johnny were just um lying on like the

5764
03:39:31,349 --> 03:39:29,359
logging road that like kind of a beats

5765
03:39:33,830 --> 03:39:31,359
the the kind of cabins uh there in

5766
03:39:36,710 --> 03:39:33,840
boston bar and just looking at the stars

5767
03:39:38,469 --> 03:39:36,720
as you do late night camping and um you

5768
03:39:40,550 --> 03:39:38,479
know i i had been drinking but not

5769
03:39:42,550 --> 03:39:40,560
excessively it was uh a bunch of my

5770
03:39:44,870 --> 03:39:42,560
muslim friends so like i don't go nuts

5771
03:39:47,590 --> 03:39:44,880
when i camp with them um smoking weed

5772
03:39:48,870 --> 03:39:47,600
but like i smoke him medicinally so that

5773
03:39:52,229 --> 03:39:48,880
if anything it just makes me more

5774
03:39:53,990 --> 03:39:52,239
clear-headed uh believe me folks um and

5775
03:39:55,429 --> 03:39:54,000
so i wasn't like hammered or anything

5776
03:39:56,790 --> 03:39:55,439
and like the world's spinning or

5777
03:39:58,229 --> 03:39:56,800
anything like this and i'm just lying

5778
03:40:01,190 --> 03:39:58,239
there with johnny we're like wow this

5779
03:40:02,790 --> 03:40:01,200
star's crazy man this is awesome and uh

5780
03:40:06,229 --> 03:40:02,800
you're seeing some shooting stars and

5781
03:40:08,950 --> 03:40:06,239
stuff like this and from like the right

5782
03:40:11,830 --> 03:40:08,960
corner of our eye

5783
03:40:12,950 --> 03:40:11,840
we see this dot that is moving pretty

5784
03:40:15,830 --> 03:40:12,960
quickly

5785
03:40:16,790 --> 03:40:15,840
from one edge of the horizon all the way

5786
03:40:19,510 --> 03:40:16,800
over

5787
03:40:22,870 --> 03:40:19,520
it stops at the tree that is blocking

5788
03:40:25,750 --> 03:40:22,880
our view no evan it goes up

5789
03:40:28,389 --> 03:40:25,760
to the left down and then just continues

5790
03:40:29,830 --> 03:40:28,399
off to the left like it was like that's

5791
03:40:33,510 --> 03:40:29,840
why i'm thinking like they want to be

5792
03:40:35,750 --> 03:40:33,520
seen and um we were just like chatting

5793
03:40:37,910 --> 03:40:35,760
and then as soon as i noticed it

5794
03:40:40,790 --> 03:40:37,920
i just went quiet and he went quiet and

5795
03:40:43,030 --> 03:40:40,800
we without saying anything to each other

5796
03:40:46,309 --> 03:40:43,040
eyes were locked on this thing and it

5797
03:40:48,309 --> 03:40:46,319
went by and i looked at him like bro did

5798
03:40:50,630 --> 03:40:48,319
you see that and he's like yeah man i'm

5799
03:40:53,190 --> 03:40:50,640
like that wasn't no like shooting star

5800
03:40:53,990 --> 03:40:53,200
right it was like a circle that was

5801
03:40:56,550 --> 03:40:54,000
much

5802
03:40:59,030 --> 03:40:56,560
like more diameter than a pinhole it'd

5803
03:41:01,510 --> 03:40:59,040
be like almost like if you went halfway

5804
03:41:03,110 --> 03:41:01,520
down on the tip of a pencil like about

5805
03:41:05,830 --> 03:41:03,120
that big right

5806
03:41:07,670 --> 03:41:05,840
um and it uh yeah i did that move around

5807
03:41:08,790 --> 03:41:07,680
the tree and and i'm like i've never

5808
03:41:10,550 --> 03:41:08,800
seen

5809
03:41:11,830 --> 03:41:10,560
anything do that it's not a satellite

5810
03:41:13,590 --> 03:41:11,840
either i've seen satellites and they

5811
03:41:14,950 --> 03:41:13,600
just go in a single trajectory across

5812
03:41:17,670 --> 03:41:14,960
the field of vision they don't make a

5813
03:41:19,750 --> 03:41:17,680
upwards left hand and then a

5814
03:41:21,269 --> 03:41:19,760
downwards turn and then another left and

5815
03:41:23,190 --> 03:41:21,279
go around a tree just so they can be

5816
03:41:24,229 --> 03:41:23,200
seen right and as we're chatting about

5817
03:41:28,070 --> 03:41:24,239
this

5818
03:41:31,269 --> 03:41:28,080
we here behind us

5819
03:41:33,510 --> 03:41:31,279
that not a bear pro a cooker

5820
03:41:35,190 --> 03:41:33,520
like you do not typically hear cougars

5821
03:41:36,710 --> 03:41:35,200
and then it goes

5822
03:41:38,389 --> 03:41:36,720
and it comes like tumbling down this

5823
03:41:40,950 --> 03:41:38,399
hill because there's like a bit of a

5824
03:41:43,030 --> 03:41:40,960
like a slope behind us forested thank

5825
03:41:45,429 --> 03:41:43,040
god and it comes like bear lasting down

5826
03:41:48,630 --> 03:41:45,439
this hill we're like cougar and we book

5827
03:41:50,229 --> 03:41:48,640
it into the cabin and lock the door like

5828
03:41:51,750 --> 03:41:50,239
throw the chair under the handle and

5829
03:41:53,510 --> 03:41:51,760
everything there's like four of our

5830
03:41:55,110 --> 03:41:53,520
buddies out around the campfire we're

5831
03:41:57,990 --> 03:41:55,120
like oh guys guys come in come in

5832
03:42:00,550 --> 03:41:58,000
come in there's a cougar and uh and so

5833
03:42:01,510 --> 03:42:00,560
just like on thursday when i almost

5834
03:42:03,510 --> 03:42:01,520
myself

5835
03:42:05,590 --> 03:42:03,520
and uh here we almost got eaten by a

5836
03:42:08,950 --> 03:42:05,600
cougar so it's weird like when i view

5837
03:42:12,229 --> 03:42:08,960
ufos it's like a moment before extreme

5838
03:42:15,510 --> 03:42:14,469
i can't imagine that the extent of what

5839
03:42:17,190 --> 03:42:15,520
exists

5840
03:42:20,309 --> 03:42:17,200
happens to exist within our sensory

5841
03:42:21,910 --> 03:42:20,319
perceptive uh fields so when you see

5842
03:42:23,910 --> 03:42:21,920
stuff like that who the hell knows you

5843
03:42:25,429 --> 03:42:23,920
know i am uh

5844
03:42:27,670 --> 03:42:25,439
i am no uh

5845
03:42:29,590 --> 03:42:27,680
rational skeptic in terms of these types

5846
03:42:33,269 --> 03:42:29,600
of types of things i just

5847
03:42:35,429 --> 03:42:33,279
i want to believe and i believe

5848
03:42:37,510 --> 03:42:35,439
well i certainly got that belief

5849
03:42:40,309 --> 03:42:37,520
reinforced on thursday now this is the

5850
03:42:42,389 --> 03:42:40,319
kicker this is the real kicker um out of

5851
03:42:44,150 --> 03:42:42,399
nowhere this guy ryan sprague who's like

5852
03:42:47,269 --> 03:42:44,160
a ufo guy he's kind of like rob from our

5853
03:42:48,710 --> 03:42:47,279
strange skies um but he has like tv

5854
03:42:50,870 --> 03:42:48,720
shows and youtube channels really

5855
03:42:53,110 --> 03:42:50,880
popular and all this sort of stuff um he

5856
03:42:55,030 --> 03:42:53,120
sends me a direct message and i'm like

5857
03:42:58,070 --> 03:42:55,040
ryan sprague i know that name he's like

5858
03:42:59,110 --> 03:42:58,080
hey i saw your comment on rob's post uh

5859
03:43:01,429 --> 03:42:59,120
which was

5860
03:43:03,349 --> 03:43:01,439
like eight months ago right i commented

5861
03:43:05,190 --> 03:43:03,359
like hey i've seen a ufo like you want

5862
03:43:08,229 --> 03:43:05,200
me to come out and tell the story rob

5863
03:43:09,030 --> 03:43:08,239
and he he just reached out that day at

5864
03:43:12,950 --> 03:43:09,040
like

5865
03:43:14,870 --> 03:43:12,960
7 00 a.m and i saw the ufo at 4am out of

5866
03:43:16,389 --> 03:43:14,880
nowhere whoa

5867
03:43:18,309 --> 03:43:16,399
so i'm going to clip this up and send it

5868
03:43:21,429 --> 03:43:18,319
over to ryan for sure oh there's some

5869
03:43:23,189 --> 03:43:21,439
bizarre serendipity going on there

5870
03:43:25,429 --> 03:43:23,199
i think so it's uh

5871
03:43:27,670 --> 03:43:25,439
it's a little creepy but it's also like

5872
03:43:29,990 --> 03:43:27,680
because of my esp i'm like well i know

5873
03:43:31,750 --> 03:43:30,000
they're there so it's just kind of fun

5874
03:43:33,429 --> 03:43:31,760
that i got to see another one like i

5875
03:43:35,110 --> 03:43:33,439
didn't think that would happen i thought

5876
03:43:38,840 --> 03:43:35,120
i'd just get to see one

5877
03:43:52,630 --> 03:43:38,850
so here's to many more

5878
03:43:56,469 --> 03:43:54,150
hey ryan

5879
03:43:57,429 --> 03:43:56,479
it's ally from jersey

5880
03:43:59,590 --> 03:43:57,439
um

5881
03:44:02,710 --> 03:43:59,600
messaged you a couple days ago i think

5882
03:44:06,870 --> 03:44:02,720
i'm ready to share my encounter

5883
03:44:08,790 --> 03:44:06,880
so this happened maybe about

5884
03:44:11,670 --> 03:44:08,800
eight nine years ago

5885
03:44:15,349 --> 03:44:11,680
um so i had a friend over

5886
03:44:18,150 --> 03:44:15,359
who was a ex-co-worker

5887
03:44:20,469 --> 03:44:18,160
and um he was really close with my aunt

5888
03:44:22,469 --> 03:44:20,479
my aunt lives literally like two streets

5889
03:44:24,550 --> 03:44:22,479
down from me so when he stopped by to

5890
03:44:26,070 --> 03:44:24,560
visit i

5891
03:44:28,389 --> 03:44:26,080
you know asked him like hey you want to

5892
03:44:31,590 --> 03:44:28,399
go visit my aunt say what's up he was

5893
03:44:34,790 --> 03:44:31,600
down for it so we walked down the street

5894
03:44:37,750 --> 03:44:34,800
to my aunt's house it was probably like

5895
03:44:39,990 --> 03:44:37,760
spring fallish um in the evening because

5896
03:44:43,030 --> 03:44:40,000
the sky kind of had that pretty cotton

5897
03:44:44,630 --> 03:44:43,040
candy pinky purpley bluish kind of look

5898
03:44:45,990 --> 03:44:44,640
like the sun was kind of setting a

5899
03:44:46,950 --> 03:44:46,000
little bit

5900
03:44:50,309 --> 03:44:46,960
so

5901
03:44:52,389 --> 03:44:50,319
the middle of the street talking instead

5902
03:44:53,670 --> 03:44:52,399
of like in my aunt's yard or on the

5903
03:44:54,469 --> 03:44:53,680
sidewalk

5904
03:44:55,750 --> 03:44:54,479
um

5905
03:44:57,590 --> 03:44:55,760
so anyway we're standing in the middle

5906
03:44:59,030 --> 03:44:57,600
of the street and

5907
03:45:01,269 --> 03:44:59,040
towards the end of our conversation

5908
03:45:04,229 --> 03:45:01,279
we're getting ready to say our goodbyes

5909
03:45:06,710 --> 03:45:04,239
and we all just happen to

5910
03:45:09,349 --> 03:45:06,720
look up and to the left

5911
03:45:11,349 --> 03:45:09,359
of where we were standing and there were

5912
03:45:12,950 --> 03:45:11,359
these three

5913
03:45:15,750 --> 03:45:12,960
like white

5914
03:45:17,830 --> 03:45:15,760
circular glowing spheres they almost

5915
03:45:19,510 --> 03:45:17,840
look like when the moon is full how it

5916
03:45:21,750 --> 03:45:19,520
has that glow

5917
03:45:22,630 --> 03:45:21,760
there was three of them in a triangular

5918
03:45:24,790 --> 03:45:22,640
shape

5919
03:45:27,030 --> 03:45:24,800
just kind of off in the distance and at

5920
03:45:28,870 --> 03:45:27,040
first we were kind of like the hell is

5921
03:45:30,309 --> 03:45:28,880
that like it was just it was it just

5922
03:45:32,150 --> 03:45:30,319
looked weird

5923
03:45:34,710 --> 03:45:32,160
and they were bright enough to wear up

5924
03:45:36,710 --> 03:45:34,720
against the sky they stood out like this

5925
03:45:38,469 --> 03:45:36,720
stood out pretty well

5926
03:45:39,830 --> 03:45:38,479
so we're just standing there for a while

5927
03:45:41,910 --> 03:45:39,840
trying to figure out what it is they

5928
03:45:44,469 --> 03:45:41,920
weren't moving or anything

5929
03:45:45,750 --> 03:45:44,479
and my first thought was like oh weather

5930
03:45:46,550 --> 03:45:45,760
balloons

5931
03:45:48,710 --> 03:45:46,560
but

5932
03:45:50,710 --> 03:45:48,720
they just didn't something was just off

5933
03:45:53,349 --> 03:45:50,720
they just didn't look like weather

5934
03:45:56,710 --> 03:45:53,359
balloons so as we're standing there

5935
03:45:58,950 --> 03:45:56,720
trying to figure out what it was

5936
03:46:00,710 --> 03:45:58,960
one of them it was almost like they had

5937
03:46:02,309 --> 03:46:00,720
a string

5938
03:46:03,910 --> 03:46:02,319
hanging from the bottom and they were

5939
03:46:05,830 --> 03:46:03,920
like tethered to the ground because they

5940
03:46:09,750 --> 03:46:05,840
were just like kind of just stuck like

5941
03:46:11,750 --> 03:46:09,760
just stuck in place and one by one it

5942
03:46:14,469 --> 03:46:11,760
was like someone just cut the string and

5943
03:46:15,750 --> 03:46:14,479
they just started to release into the

5944
03:46:17,110 --> 03:46:15,760
air

5945
03:46:19,590 --> 03:46:17,120
and we're kind of just standing there

5946
03:46:21,830 --> 03:46:19,600
like the hell is that and as they're

5947
03:46:23,510 --> 03:46:21,840
like floating up into the sky like

5948
03:46:25,349 --> 03:46:23,520
they're they were staying like same

5949
03:46:27,429 --> 03:46:25,359
distance apart like they weren't like

5950
03:46:29,750 --> 03:46:27,439
bobbing or anything they just

5951
03:46:32,950 --> 03:46:29,760
shot straight up but slow enough to

5952
03:46:35,110 --> 03:46:32,960
where we were like the hell is going on

5953
03:46:36,950 --> 03:46:35,120
and as they were going up

5954
03:46:39,349 --> 03:46:36,960
into the sky

5955
03:46:42,229 --> 03:46:39,359
we kind of looked further back into the

5956
03:46:43,110 --> 03:46:42,239
sky and we noticed there were probably

5957
03:46:45,670 --> 03:46:43,120
like

5958
03:46:48,309 --> 03:46:45,680
20 more of these spheres that we just

5959
03:46:50,630 --> 03:46:48,319
didn't notice the first time because the

5960
03:46:52,710 --> 03:46:50,640
three like you kind of couldn't tell how

5961
03:46:54,309 --> 03:46:52,720
far they were because first glance they

5962
03:46:56,389 --> 03:46:54,319
look kind of close

5963
03:46:58,389 --> 03:46:56,399
but as we were kind of focusing in on

5964
03:47:00,630 --> 03:46:58,399
them they were like

5965
03:47:02,950 --> 03:47:00,640
they were kind of far out there

5966
03:47:04,550 --> 03:47:02,960
so when we seen all these other spheres

5967
03:47:06,710 --> 03:47:04,560
that were like glowing like all these

5968
03:47:08,389 --> 03:47:06,720
little moons just kind of

5969
03:47:09,830 --> 03:47:08,399
shooting up into the sky like i'm

5970
03:47:11,189 --> 03:47:09,840
getting goosebumps now just thinking

5971
03:47:13,429 --> 03:47:11,199
about it

5972
03:47:15,429 --> 03:47:13,439
but there were like 20 other ones and

5973
03:47:17,990 --> 03:47:15,439
they all just like when the first three

5974
03:47:20,630 --> 03:47:18,000
kind of released and started to shoot up

5975
03:47:24,150 --> 03:47:20,640
the other ones just followed after it

5976
03:47:26,469 --> 03:47:24,160
and we were just kind of stuck

5977
03:47:28,309 --> 03:47:26,479
i don't remember there being any kind of

5978
03:47:31,510 --> 03:47:28,319
sound and we were kind of close to a

5979
03:47:33,510 --> 03:47:31,520
busy road so you can typically hear cars

5980
03:47:35,750 --> 03:47:33,520
and horns and all of that but

5981
03:47:37,830 --> 03:47:35,760
we didn't hear anything we just heard

5982
03:47:40,070 --> 03:47:37,840
each other and it was like just dead

5983
03:47:43,110 --> 03:47:40,080
silence all around us and we were just

5984
03:47:45,349 --> 03:47:43,120
standing there looking at these globes

5985
03:47:47,670 --> 03:47:45,359
these glowing globes just

5986
03:47:50,389 --> 03:47:47,680
shoot up into the sky and it was the

5987
03:47:53,349 --> 03:47:50,399
weirdest craziest

5988
03:47:56,790 --> 03:47:55,110
kind of feeling

5989
03:47:59,189 --> 03:47:56,800
i don't know it was just it was just

5990
03:48:00,870 --> 03:47:59,199
bizarre so from listening to your

5991
03:48:02,550 --> 03:48:00,880
podcast and listening to other

5992
03:48:04,550 --> 03:48:02,560
encounters or

5993
03:48:07,750 --> 03:48:04,560
stories that you've told or people that

5994
03:48:09,590 --> 03:48:07,760
you've had on your podcast i truly think

5995
03:48:11,990 --> 03:48:09,600
it was something

5996
03:48:12,870 --> 03:48:12,000
from another world and it was like those

5997
03:48:16,309 --> 03:48:12,880
three

5998
03:48:17,670 --> 03:48:16,319
felt like they were kind of just there

5999
03:48:19,990 --> 03:48:17,680
watching us

6000
03:48:21,830 --> 03:48:20,000
just like peeping the scenery and then

6001
03:48:23,910 --> 03:48:21,840
when we kind of looked up and noticed

6002
03:48:25,670 --> 03:48:23,920
them and tried to like

6003
03:48:28,309 --> 03:48:25,680
piece together what they were they're

6004
03:48:30,469 --> 03:48:28,319
like oh gotta go and just kind of

6005
03:48:33,269 --> 03:48:30,479
released up into the sky

6006
03:48:35,510 --> 03:48:33,279
um if it wasn't for all of those other

6007
03:48:37,269 --> 03:48:35,520
ones and there were so many if it wasn't

6008
03:48:39,189 --> 03:48:37,279
for all of those other ones i probably

6009
03:48:41,830 --> 03:48:39,199
just would have chalked it up to

6010
03:48:44,389 --> 03:48:41,840
some weird in jersey like who knows

6011
03:48:46,469 --> 03:48:44,399
but because there were so many other

6012
03:48:49,189 --> 03:48:46,479
ones

6013
03:48:50,630 --> 03:48:49,199
we kind of just stood there and was like

6014
03:48:52,309 --> 03:48:50,640
what the

6015
03:48:54,229 --> 03:48:52,319
and just gave each other that awkward

6016
03:48:56,309 --> 03:48:54,239
stare i was like you know what

6017
03:48:58,710 --> 03:48:56,319
i think it's time to go and we just kind

6018
03:49:00,550 --> 03:48:58,720
of my aunt went back to her house me and

6019
03:49:02,790 --> 03:49:00,560
my friend walked up the street he jumped

6020
03:49:05,750 --> 03:49:02,800
in his car and left and

6021
03:49:07,750 --> 03:49:05,760
we just never spoke about it since

6022
03:49:09,189 --> 03:49:07,760
but from listening to your wonderful

6023
03:49:11,990 --> 03:49:09,199
podcast

6024
03:49:13,670 --> 03:49:12,000
it's kind of brought that moment back up

6025
03:49:16,389 --> 03:49:13,680
and i've really really been thinking

6026
03:49:19,590 --> 03:49:16,399
about what it could possibly be

6027
03:49:22,710 --> 03:49:19,600
so i'm not sure what it was it feels

6028
03:49:25,670 --> 03:49:22,720
like and seems like something unworldly

6029
03:49:28,870 --> 03:49:25,680
um i would love to hear what you think

6030
03:49:29,830 --> 03:49:28,880
so yeah thank you for the podcast i love

6031
03:49:33,900 --> 03:49:29,840
it

6032
03:49:38,150 --> 03:49:35,269
[Music]

6033
03:49:39,349 --> 03:49:38,160
hi my name is troy peaslee i'm 43 years

6034
03:49:42,229 --> 03:49:39,359
old

6035
03:49:44,469 --> 03:49:42,239
i'm a security officer and i work in

6036
03:49:47,030 --> 03:49:44,479
toowoomba queensland australia

6037
03:49:48,950 --> 03:49:47,040
i'd like to share with you guys a story

6038
03:49:52,070 --> 03:49:48,960
that happened to me

6039
03:49:54,070 --> 03:49:52,080
a very long time ago i was uh 12 years

6040
03:49:56,790 --> 03:49:54,080
old

6041
03:50:00,229 --> 03:49:56,800
so i guess i'll start from the beginning

6042
03:50:01,990 --> 03:50:00,239
when i was younger my mother would take

6043
03:50:03,349 --> 03:50:02,000
myself and my

6044
03:50:04,790 --> 03:50:03,359
little brother

6045
03:50:06,710 --> 03:50:04,800
on holidays

6046
03:50:09,030 --> 03:50:06,720
to see my cousins

6047
03:50:11,110 --> 03:50:09,040
and they lived in redcliffe

6048
03:50:13,510 --> 03:50:11,120
now redcliffe is

6049
03:50:14,469 --> 03:50:13,520
uh north of brisbane

6050
03:50:16,229 --> 03:50:14,479
and

6051
03:50:17,750 --> 03:50:16,239
we'd go there

6052
03:50:19,910 --> 03:50:17,760
whenever we

6053
03:50:21,429 --> 03:50:19,920
had the chance usually it'd be on like

6054
03:50:22,790 --> 03:50:21,439
school holidays

6055
03:50:25,429 --> 03:50:22,800
and

6056
03:50:26,630 --> 03:50:25,439
there's a whole heap of cousins around

6057
03:50:27,750 --> 03:50:26,640
red cliff

6058
03:50:29,510 --> 03:50:27,760
this

6059
03:50:31,990 --> 03:50:29,520
pacific time we're up

6060
03:50:33,269 --> 03:50:32,000
seeing my cousins in redcliffe

6061
03:50:36,389 --> 03:50:33,279
and

6062
03:50:39,189 --> 03:50:36,399
i know about you guys but every time

6063
03:50:41,110 --> 03:50:39,199
i got with my cousins we would run amok

6064
03:50:42,790 --> 03:50:41,120
as kids do

6065
03:50:45,510 --> 03:50:42,800
uh we're very

6066
03:50:47,189 --> 03:50:45,520
active kids i know if that's just a nice

6067
03:50:49,269 --> 03:50:47,199
way of saying that we were a

6068
03:50:52,950 --> 03:50:49,279
little delinquent but i don't think we

6069
03:50:53,830 --> 03:50:52,960
were anyway this one particular night

6070
03:50:54,950 --> 03:50:53,840
my

6071
03:50:56,630 --> 03:50:54,960
mother

6072
03:50:58,389 --> 03:50:56,640
was um

6073
03:50:59,429 --> 03:50:58,399
you know she'd get together with all my

6074
03:51:01,110 --> 03:50:59,439
aunties

6075
03:51:03,110 --> 03:51:01,120
and they would

6076
03:51:04,070 --> 03:51:03,120
play cards and what not have a few

6077
03:51:06,469 --> 03:51:04,080
drinks

6078
03:51:08,630 --> 03:51:06,479
while all of us kids would

6079
03:51:10,950 --> 03:51:08,640
basically run amok

6080
03:51:13,030 --> 03:51:10,960
now i think it was

6081
03:51:15,110 --> 03:51:13,040
around 10 o'clock at night it may have

6082
03:51:17,510 --> 03:51:15,120
been my idea i'm not sure my cousins

6083
03:51:19,910 --> 03:51:17,520
were a couple of years younger than me

6084
03:51:23,429 --> 03:51:19,920
so it probably was my idea but i wanted

6085
03:51:25,750 --> 03:51:23,439
to go exploring now redcliffe

6086
03:51:27,349 --> 03:51:25,760
where they lived was right

6087
03:51:29,990 --> 03:51:27,359
probably

6088
03:51:32,070 --> 03:51:30,000
a five or five to seven minute walk to

6089
03:51:35,910 --> 03:51:32,080
the redcliffe beach

6090
03:51:37,990 --> 03:51:35,920
which is where we spent most of our time

6091
03:51:40,150 --> 03:51:38,000
when we were visiting

6092
03:51:41,750 --> 03:51:40,160
my cousins so i was about 10 o'clock at

6093
03:51:44,710 --> 03:51:41,760
night my

6094
03:51:47,510 --> 03:51:44,720
aunties and mum were busy so i thought

6095
03:51:50,309 --> 03:51:47,520
okay let's go for a little wander and we

6096
03:51:52,630 --> 03:51:50,319
you know we were pretty mischievous

6097
03:51:55,030 --> 03:51:52,640
and uh you know we're

6098
03:51:56,389 --> 03:51:55,040
we're causing habit we're throwing

6099
03:52:00,550 --> 03:51:56,399
stones and

6100
03:52:03,189 --> 03:52:00,560
just being little rascals um

6101
03:52:05,670 --> 03:52:03,199
so yeah but we finally got to the beach

6102
03:52:07,189 --> 03:52:05,680
and uh anyone who knows red cliff beach

6103
03:52:08,950 --> 03:52:07,199
it's a beautiful

6104
03:52:11,189 --> 03:52:08,960
stretch of uh

6105
03:52:13,349 --> 03:52:11,199
beach it was 10 o'clock at night it was

6106
03:52:15,750 --> 03:52:13,359
clear weather

6107
03:52:17,269 --> 03:52:15,760
it was a beautiful

6108
03:52:20,309 --> 03:52:17,279
spring

6109
03:52:21,750 --> 03:52:20,319
i guess it would have been about 27

6110
03:52:24,070 --> 03:52:21,760
degrees i

6111
03:52:26,550 --> 03:52:24,080
don't hold me to that but it was a warm

6112
03:52:27,590 --> 03:52:26,560
night i remember that and as we were

6113
03:52:29,990 --> 03:52:27,600
walking

6114
03:52:31,590 --> 03:52:30,000
uh one of my cousins there was about

6115
03:52:33,269 --> 03:52:31,600
four of us all up

6116
03:52:37,030 --> 03:52:33,279
on this particular night

6117
03:52:39,030 --> 03:52:37,040
and my cousin sean looked up and he said

6118
03:52:40,710 --> 03:52:39,040
oh look a shooting star

6119
03:52:41,990 --> 03:52:40,720
and you know

6120
03:52:44,389 --> 03:52:42,000
we'd seen

6121
03:52:45,590 --> 03:52:44,399
hundreds of shooting stars but anyway we

6122
03:52:47,349 --> 03:52:45,600
all looked up

6123
03:52:49,990 --> 03:52:47,359
and as we were watching the shooting

6124
03:52:51,910 --> 03:52:50,000
start now it come down just like a

6125
03:52:53,269 --> 03:52:51,920
shooting star would and so we were

6126
03:52:55,269 --> 03:52:53,279
watching it but

6127
03:52:57,110 --> 03:52:55,279
all of a sudden this what we thought at

6128
03:53:00,229 --> 03:52:57,120
the time was shooting start it changed

6129
03:53:02,550 --> 03:53:00,239
direction and it come towards us

6130
03:53:04,790 --> 03:53:02,560
and it started to slow down

6131
03:53:06,550 --> 03:53:04,800
and it

6132
03:53:08,630 --> 03:53:06,560
looked like a

6133
03:53:10,229 --> 03:53:08,640
like a yellow

6134
03:53:12,150 --> 03:53:10,239
yellow object

6135
03:53:13,510 --> 03:53:12,160
but i know this doesn't sort of make

6136
03:53:15,429 --> 03:53:13,520
sense but it

6137
03:53:17,510 --> 03:53:15,439
you could tell that it was

6138
03:53:19,750 --> 03:53:17,520
like a metallic object i know that

6139
03:53:22,469 --> 03:53:19,760
sounds whatever but

6140
03:53:25,429 --> 03:53:22,479
i just remember it you could tell that

6141
03:53:27,030 --> 03:53:25,439
it was like had a metallic base to it it

6142
03:53:30,710 --> 03:53:27,040
was very bright

6143
03:53:33,990 --> 03:53:30,720
it uh was mostly like a yellowish color

6144
03:53:37,349 --> 03:53:34,000
or even a goldish color it was um

6145
03:53:39,830 --> 03:53:37,359
sort of like a like a ball like a

6146
03:53:43,030 --> 03:53:39,840
like a bright bullish color

6147
03:53:45,510 --> 03:53:43,040
a ball object with a with goldy's yellow

6148
03:53:47,189 --> 03:53:45,520
color to it now as it started slowly it

6149
03:53:48,950 --> 03:53:47,199
actually stopped

6150
03:53:50,950 --> 03:53:48,960
and it started to

6151
03:53:53,269 --> 03:53:50,960
rotate in a circular motion like it

6152
03:53:54,790 --> 03:53:53,279
started to go around in circles

6153
03:53:57,670 --> 03:53:54,800
okay

6154
03:53:59,910 --> 03:53:57,680
and then it stopped again

6155
03:54:01,590 --> 03:53:59,920
and it went on

6156
03:54:03,349 --> 03:54:01,600
the only way i can describe it is it

6157
03:54:04,950 --> 03:54:03,359
when on its side

6158
03:54:06,389 --> 03:54:04,960
it shifted

6159
03:54:09,750 --> 03:54:06,399
its axes

6160
03:54:13,429 --> 03:54:09,760
if that makes sense it it went on a side

6161
03:54:15,590 --> 03:54:13,439
and then in a blink of an eye it shot up

6162
03:54:17,670 --> 03:54:15,600
on an angle but

6163
03:54:19,510 --> 03:54:17,680
the fastest thing you could imagine like

6164
03:54:20,710 --> 03:54:19,520
turning off a light switch it was that

6165
03:54:24,389 --> 03:54:20,720
quick

6166
03:54:26,229 --> 03:54:24,399
and it was gone and it did leave like a

6167
03:54:28,389 --> 03:54:26,239
i don't know whether it was because of

6168
03:54:31,269 --> 03:54:28,399
the speed or

6169
03:54:33,189 --> 03:54:31,279
whether it was an actual um some type of

6170
03:54:35,269 --> 03:54:33,199
fuel or whether it was that quick that

6171
03:54:37,910 --> 03:54:35,279
it left like a like a reflection or a

6172
03:54:40,710 --> 03:54:37,920
light behind it

6173
03:54:43,510 --> 03:54:40,720
but um thinking back now and talking to

6174
03:54:46,870 --> 03:54:43,520
my cousin like we're in our 40s

6175
03:54:48,070 --> 03:54:46,880
and um our story has never changed

6176
03:54:49,510 --> 03:54:48,080
and um

6177
03:54:51,830 --> 03:54:49,520
i remember that night we were that

6178
03:54:53,670 --> 03:54:51,840
excited like we were

6179
03:54:55,830 --> 03:54:53,680
excited but

6180
03:54:57,830 --> 03:54:55,840
a little uh

6181
03:54:58,790 --> 03:54:57,840
i don't know i wouldn't call it scared

6182
03:55:04,469 --> 03:54:58,800
but

6183
03:55:06,630 --> 03:55:04,479
something i would describe like we were

6184
03:55:08,870 --> 03:55:06,640
weirded out like you know what the hell

6185
03:55:11,030 --> 03:55:08,880
was that sort of a thing but we were

6186
03:55:13,189 --> 03:55:11,040
that excited and

6187
03:55:15,990 --> 03:55:13,199
i don't know a weirded out that we ran

6188
03:55:18,150 --> 03:55:16,000
home to tell our parents

6189
03:55:19,269 --> 03:55:18,160
and we burst through the door

6190
03:55:21,269 --> 03:55:19,279
and

6191
03:55:23,910 --> 03:55:21,279
we didn't even think that

6192
03:55:26,389 --> 03:55:23,920
hey we snuck out so

6193
03:55:29,189 --> 03:55:26,399
so we burst through the door and told

6194
03:55:31,030 --> 03:55:29,199
our aunties and my mother and

6195
03:55:33,189 --> 03:55:31,040
the only thing that they were concerned

6196
03:55:35,510 --> 03:55:33,199
about at the time was um

6197
03:55:38,630 --> 03:55:35,520
us sneaking out so

6198
03:55:40,790 --> 03:55:38,640
we were uh punished and sent to bed

6199
03:55:43,269 --> 03:55:40,800
but the next day my auntie one of my

6200
03:55:44,550 --> 03:55:43,279
aunties wanted to know

6201
03:55:48,150 --> 03:55:44,560
what we saw

6202
03:55:49,750 --> 03:55:48,160
her about it

6203
03:55:52,630 --> 03:55:49,760
and for days i remember her going

6204
03:55:55,590 --> 03:55:52,640
through newspapers and and news reports

6205
03:55:58,309 --> 03:55:55,600
seeing if anything had had been

6206
03:56:00,070 --> 03:55:58,319
reported and there was nothing

6207
03:56:01,830 --> 03:56:00,080
now many years on

6208
03:56:03,670 --> 03:56:01,840
every time i get with my cousins that's

6209
03:56:05,910 --> 03:56:03,680
the first thing we talk about

6210
03:56:06,950 --> 03:56:05,920
is what we saw that night

6211
03:56:09,429 --> 03:56:06,960
and

6212
03:56:10,389 --> 03:56:09,439
i can tell you now that i have

6213
03:56:14,070 --> 03:56:10,399
researched

6214
03:56:16,389 --> 03:56:14,080
uh ufos ever since that that moment and

6215
03:56:19,590 --> 03:56:16,399
um i can tell you it wasn't

6216
03:56:21,670 --> 03:56:19,600
definitely wasn't a uh meteorite it

6217
03:56:23,910 --> 03:56:21,680
wasn't a comet it wasn't a weather

6218
03:56:24,950 --> 03:56:23,920
balloon it wasn't a plane it wasn't a

6219
03:56:28,389 --> 03:56:24,960
jet

6220
03:56:31,910 --> 03:56:28,399
it wasn't venus it was something that i

6221
03:56:35,110 --> 03:56:31,920
have never seen again and

6222
03:56:37,269 --> 03:56:35,120
it was definitely a ufo

6223
03:56:39,750 --> 03:56:37,279
one of my cousins is now in the air

6224
03:56:40,630 --> 03:56:39,760
force and uh

6225
03:56:48,790 --> 03:56:40,640
i

6226
03:56:50,630 --> 03:56:48,800
yeah he doesn't say too much he but

6227
03:56:53,349 --> 03:56:50,640
he um

6228
03:56:55,429 --> 03:56:53,359
keeps that sort of uh what he saw

6229
03:56:56,950 --> 03:56:55,439
to himself as

6230
03:56:59,750 --> 03:56:56,960
you know you can imagine

6231
03:57:01,429 --> 03:56:59,760
but um yeah my other cousin that we know

6232
03:57:03,189 --> 03:57:01,439
what we saw that night and it was

6233
03:57:04,790 --> 03:57:03,199
definitely um

6234
03:57:07,670 --> 03:57:04,800
well it was ufo

6235
03:57:12,790 --> 03:57:07,680
so thank you for listening to me and

6236
03:57:17,429 --> 03:57:15,189
my name is alex and i live in stanley

6237
03:57:18,950 --> 03:57:17,439
island new york

6238
03:57:20,700 --> 03:57:18,960
this happens

6239
03:57:21,910 --> 03:57:20,710
like a year ago

6240
03:57:25,429 --> 03:57:21,920
[Music]

6241
03:57:30,469 --> 03:57:27,670
from work it was like

6242
03:57:33,110 --> 03:57:30,479
5 6 p.m

6243
03:57:34,870 --> 03:57:33,120
and as i was walking to the back door

6244
03:57:36,710 --> 03:57:34,880
something shiny

6245
03:57:38,150 --> 03:57:36,720
caught my eye

6246
03:57:40,389 --> 03:57:38,160
in the sky

6247
03:57:43,990 --> 03:57:40,399
that looked like

6248
03:57:48,550 --> 03:57:46,550
and it looked like the sun was

6249
03:57:51,030 --> 03:57:48,560
reflecting right through it because it

6250
03:57:52,150 --> 03:57:51,040
was so shiny

6251
03:57:56,070 --> 03:57:52,160
that

6252
03:58:00,070 --> 03:57:58,870
but it wasn't moving it was just static

6253
03:58:04,389 --> 03:58:00,080
never move

6254
03:58:07,110 --> 03:58:04,399
from that position and it didn't make no

6255
03:58:10,309 --> 03:58:09,030
this thing was like

6256
03:58:14,389 --> 03:58:10,319
there just

6257
03:58:22,630 --> 03:58:18,229
i was uh so in shock that

6258
03:58:27,349 --> 03:58:25,510
take out my phone

6259
03:58:29,670 --> 03:58:27,359
that would be the first reaction to

6260
03:58:31,510 --> 03:58:29,680
start recording

6261
03:58:33,830 --> 03:58:31,520
but it's just you know i was so in shock

6262
03:58:36,070 --> 03:58:33,840
that that i couldn't i couldn't do it i

6263
03:58:37,510 --> 03:58:36,080
couldn't move

6264
03:58:40,070 --> 03:58:37,520
and um

6265
03:58:42,309 --> 03:58:40,080
the first thing

6266
03:58:45,030 --> 03:58:42,319
that came in my mind was uh

6267
03:58:48,389 --> 03:58:45,040
to tell my wife

6268
03:58:49,590 --> 03:58:48,399
and as soon as i turn around and i open

6269
03:58:53,349 --> 03:58:49,600
the door

6270
03:58:59,349 --> 03:58:57,030
when i look back that thing was gone

6271
03:59:01,990 --> 03:58:59,359
it just disappeared

6272
03:59:05,269 --> 03:59:02,000
didn't make no sound

6273
03:59:08,229 --> 03:59:05,279
no nothing i didn't hear anything

6274
03:59:11,189 --> 03:59:08,239
and as i told my wife

6275
03:59:14,309 --> 03:59:11,199
about what i seemed

6276
03:59:18,389 --> 03:59:14,319
she didn't want to believe me

6277
03:59:21,189 --> 03:59:18,399
and um funny thing that um

6278
03:59:24,550 --> 03:59:21,199
after my experience

6279
03:59:26,710 --> 03:59:24,560
uh the next day or two

6280
03:59:28,840 --> 03:59:26,720
she experienced it too while she was

6281
03:59:30,309 --> 03:59:28,850
playing outside with my two kids

6282
03:59:31,750 --> 03:59:30,319
[Music]

6283
03:59:34,469 --> 03:59:31,760
and

6284
03:59:35,349 --> 03:59:34,479
she said that the weird thing is that

6285
03:59:37,750 --> 03:59:35,359
um

6286
03:59:39,590 --> 03:59:37,760
they try to record a video with her cell

6287
03:59:41,030 --> 03:59:39,600
phone

6288
03:59:42,150 --> 03:59:41,040
you know

6289
03:59:46,229 --> 03:59:42,160
and

6290
03:59:48,550 --> 03:59:46,239
this thing this ufo or whatever it is

6291
03:59:52,070 --> 03:59:48,560
they couldn't record it

6292
03:59:54,070 --> 03:59:52,080
with any cell phone at the house

6293
03:59:57,750 --> 03:59:54,080
they try to get uh they're trying to get

6294
03:59:59,590 --> 03:59:57,760
their nephews outside because

6295
04:00:01,830 --> 03:59:59,600
that thing

6296
04:00:04,710 --> 04:00:01,840
the ufo

6297
04:00:05,990 --> 04:00:04,720
it lasted for several minutes

6298
04:00:08,389 --> 04:00:06,000
and

6299
04:00:12,229 --> 04:00:08,399
she had the chance to go

6300
04:00:14,469 --> 04:00:12,239
back inside and and tell her nephews

6301
04:00:16,309 --> 04:00:14,479
to to come outside and they were able to

6302
04:00:20,229 --> 04:00:16,319
see it too

6303
04:00:22,950 --> 04:00:20,239
and as soon as they tried to record it

6304
04:00:24,870 --> 04:00:22,960
we heard with their cell phone

6305
04:00:27,830 --> 04:00:24,880
they couldn't they couldn't get a they

6306
04:00:29,910 --> 04:00:27,840
couldn't get nothing on camera

6307
04:00:31,429 --> 04:00:29,920
and that's

6308
04:00:33,030 --> 04:00:31,439
that's the weirdest

6309
04:00:34,389 --> 04:00:33,040
thing

6310
04:00:36,790 --> 04:00:34,399
that they all got

6311
04:00:38,070 --> 04:00:36,800
they were all in shock

6312
04:00:42,070 --> 04:00:38,080
they were

6313
04:00:44,389 --> 04:00:42,080
with their cell phones

6314
04:00:45,700 --> 04:00:44,399
but they couldn't get no image no video

6315
04:00:47,670 --> 04:00:45,710
no nothing

6316
04:00:49,189 --> 04:00:47,680
[Music]

6317
04:00:52,150 --> 04:00:49,199
and

6318
04:00:54,710 --> 04:00:52,160
until this day we don't know

6319
04:00:56,870 --> 04:00:54,720
what we saw

6320
04:00:58,630 --> 04:00:56,880
and we come to a conclusion that this

6321
04:01:01,349 --> 04:00:58,640
must be

6322
04:01:03,990 --> 04:01:01,359
some really high technology from

6323
04:01:05,110 --> 04:01:04,000
somewhere else

6324
04:01:06,950 --> 04:01:05,120
because

6325
04:01:08,290 --> 04:01:06,960
again we've never seen anything like

6326
04:01:11,750 --> 04:01:08,300
this before

6327
04:01:14,469 --> 04:01:11,760
[Music]

6328
04:01:16,790 --> 04:01:14,479
hi my name's uh daniel custer most

6329
04:01:19,670 --> 04:01:16,800
people call me dan um

6330
04:01:20,550 --> 04:01:19,680
i'm just recording a uh recording about

6331
04:01:25,269 --> 04:01:20,560
my

6332
04:01:29,750 --> 04:01:25,279
ufo sighting that i had back in 1993.

6333
04:01:32,630 --> 04:01:29,760
um it was also witnessed by myself and

6334
04:01:33,910 --> 04:01:32,640
my parents

6335
04:01:40,229 --> 04:01:33,920
it

6336
04:01:43,990 --> 04:01:40,239
65 kilometers or about 40 miles

6337
04:01:47,349 --> 04:01:44,000
southwest of sydney australia

6338
04:01:49,590 --> 04:01:47,359
i have previously reported it to mufon

6339
04:01:51,830 --> 04:01:49,600
um it was investigated actually by the

6340
04:01:53,510 --> 04:01:51,840
national director for mufon australia in

6341
04:01:55,269 --> 04:01:53,520
new zealand

6342
04:01:57,189 --> 04:01:55,279
who just by chance happened to have

6343
04:01:59,990 --> 04:01:57,199
grown up in the same little town that i

6344
04:02:02,389 --> 04:02:00,000
grew up in um just on the outskirts of

6345
04:02:04,070 --> 04:02:02,399
sydney and um

6346
04:02:06,710 --> 04:02:04,080
he actually had a ufo signing that

6347
04:02:10,150 --> 04:02:06,720
himself in the 70s um

6348
04:02:14,790 --> 04:02:10,160
my sighting was in 1993.

6349
04:02:15,670 --> 04:02:14,800
um it occurred on the 6th of april 1993

6350
04:02:16,870 --> 04:02:15,680
um

6351
04:02:19,189 --> 04:02:16,880
it was so

6352
04:02:22,150 --> 04:02:19,199
27 and a half years ago

6353
04:02:25,189 --> 04:02:22,160
and even though it was a long time ago i

6354
04:02:28,550 --> 04:02:25,199
did write down

6355
04:02:31,110 --> 04:02:28,560
the events of the sighting not long

6356
04:02:33,510 --> 04:02:31,120
after just so i would have a record of

6357
04:02:35,510 --> 04:02:33,520
it for myself because it was an

6358
04:02:37,990 --> 04:02:35,520
extraordinary event

6359
04:02:41,030 --> 04:02:38,000
and i know how time fades memory so i

6360
04:02:43,349 --> 04:02:41,040
wanted to keep a record of what exactly

6361
04:02:45,670 --> 04:02:43,359
occurred that night um it's basically

6362
04:02:47,910 --> 04:02:45,680
the same report that i filed with

6363
04:02:50,550 --> 04:02:47,920
mufon years later and the one i am

6364
04:02:54,070 --> 04:02:50,560
sharing with you now so

6365
04:02:57,030 --> 04:02:54,080
uh it occurred at approximately

6366
04:02:57,990 --> 04:02:57,040
just after 00 pm or around 9 00 p.m on

6367
04:03:01,030 --> 04:02:58,000
this

6368
04:03:03,110 --> 04:03:01,040
6th of april 1993.

6369
04:03:04,950 --> 04:03:03,120
um i was sitting in

6370
04:03:06,389 --> 04:03:04,960
the lounge room of my parents house

6371
04:03:09,110 --> 04:03:06,399
watching tv

6372
04:03:11,510 --> 04:03:09,120
my parents were sitting in the back room

6373
04:03:13,189 --> 04:03:11,520
the back living room watching tv in that

6374
04:03:15,670 --> 04:03:13,199
room so they were sitting in another

6375
04:03:18,309 --> 04:03:15,680
room to me

6376
04:03:20,389 --> 04:03:18,319
a little bizarre in that i'm i was

6377
04:03:22,229 --> 04:03:20,399
sitting there watching tv

6378
04:03:24,389 --> 04:03:22,239
wide awake one minute so this was

6379
04:03:27,349 --> 04:03:24,399
probably about maybe i don't know five

6380
04:03:29,030 --> 04:03:27,359
to nine or something that night and um

6381
04:03:30,710 --> 04:03:29,040
and from one second to the next i

6382
04:03:33,189 --> 04:03:30,720
basically just started feeling of his

6383
04:03:35,910 --> 04:03:33,199
overwhelming sense of tiredness and

6384
04:03:38,550 --> 04:03:35,920
fatigue like i was about to drop asleep

6385
04:03:41,189 --> 04:03:38,560
then and there and um so that was

6386
04:03:43,349 --> 04:03:41,199
unusual as i was wide awake one second

6387
04:03:45,189 --> 04:03:43,359
earlier and i just had this overwhelming

6388
04:03:46,710 --> 04:03:45,199
feeling of tiredness that i needed to

6389
04:03:47,750 --> 04:03:46,720
get to bed

6390
04:03:51,349 --> 04:03:47,760
and so

6391
04:03:53,429 --> 04:03:51,359
i went to bed and i was laying in bed

6392
04:03:56,070 --> 04:03:53,439
my bedroom faced

6393
04:03:58,710 --> 04:03:56,080
um out to the backyard so i had a window

6394
04:04:01,110 --> 04:03:58,720
that looked out of the backyard

6395
04:04:04,309 --> 04:04:01,120
and my bed was basically below the

6396
04:04:07,670 --> 04:04:04,319
window so i was laying in bed on my side

6397
04:04:10,150 --> 04:04:07,680
facing away from the window um

6398
04:04:13,030 --> 04:04:10,160
and even though i felt this overwhelming

6399
04:04:15,510 --> 04:04:13,040
sense of tiredness which drove me to bed

6400
04:04:18,229 --> 04:04:15,520
um i was laying there awake for probably

6401
04:04:20,630 --> 04:04:18,239
10 or 15 minutes

6402
04:04:23,349 --> 04:04:20,640
when suddenly i don't know why but for

6403
04:04:24,870 --> 04:04:23,359
some reason i i felt this urge to just

6404
04:04:28,550 --> 04:04:24,880
turn around and i turned around and

6405
04:04:31,269 --> 04:04:28,560
looked out the window and um

6406
04:04:35,110 --> 04:04:31,279
what i saw was basically this craft

6407
04:04:36,950 --> 04:04:35,120
which was completely soundless um

6408
04:04:40,070 --> 04:04:36,960
and as i turned around and looked out

6409
04:04:42,469 --> 04:04:40,080
the window and

6410
04:04:46,550 --> 04:04:42,479
all i could see was this craft just

6411
04:04:49,030 --> 04:04:46,560
basically moving from from the house

6412
04:04:50,870 --> 04:04:49,040
it was just moving from the house over

6413
04:04:54,469 --> 04:04:50,880
to the backyard as i looked out the

6414
04:04:57,670 --> 04:04:54,479
window so i just saw this craft drifting

6415
04:05:00,830 --> 04:04:57,680
over the backyard it was this silver

6416
04:05:05,030 --> 04:05:00,840
metallic colored craft um

6417
04:05:08,790 --> 04:05:05,040
round typical what you would describe as

6418
04:05:10,870 --> 04:05:08,800
a flying saucer i suppose um

6419
04:05:14,229 --> 04:05:10,880
uh look i i couldn't believe what i was

6420
04:05:16,550 --> 04:05:14,239
seeing basically i i recall turning

6421
04:05:18,229 --> 04:05:16,560
around a couple of times

6422
04:05:20,150 --> 04:05:18,239
and then looking back out the window

6423
04:05:21,910 --> 04:05:20,160
because i thought i was seeing things

6424
04:05:23,990 --> 04:05:21,920
and um

6425
04:05:25,670 --> 04:05:24,000
once i established that i was wide awake

6426
04:05:27,670 --> 04:05:25,680
and that i wasn't seeing things and this

6427
04:05:28,830 --> 04:05:27,680
thing was there i went running out to my

6428
04:05:32,710 --> 04:05:28,840
parents

6429
04:05:34,389 --> 04:05:32,720
um basically to the kitchen window

6430
04:05:35,990 --> 04:05:34,399
so my parents were sitting in the living

6431
04:05:37,830 --> 04:05:36,000
room beside the kitchen but the room

6432
04:05:39,510 --> 04:05:37,840
they were sitting in they had the

6433
04:05:42,070 --> 04:05:39,520
shutters down so they couldn't see out

6434
04:05:43,750 --> 04:05:42,080
the window so i came running out saying

6435
04:05:45,349 --> 04:05:43,760
basically look there's something over

6436
04:05:47,030 --> 04:05:45,359
the backyard and

6437
04:05:49,510 --> 04:05:47,040
it looks like a ufo or something come

6438
04:05:51,030 --> 04:05:49,520
and have a look you know like and my

6439
04:05:52,710 --> 04:05:51,040
parents came out

6440
04:05:54,710 --> 04:05:52,720
to the kitchen where i was standing at

6441
04:05:57,510 --> 04:05:54,720
that point at the kitchen window and all

6442
04:05:59,429 --> 04:05:57,520
three of us saw this thing and um

6443
04:06:02,389 --> 04:05:59,439
i remember telling my mom to go and get

6444
04:06:05,030 --> 04:06:02,399
the camera but it's being 1993 you know

6445
04:06:07,030 --> 04:06:05,040
we didn't have cell phones or

6446
04:06:10,630 --> 04:06:07,040
cameras in our pockets or whatever you

6447
04:06:12,790 --> 04:06:10,640
know we basically had a a camera with uh

6448
04:06:15,030 --> 04:06:12,800
you know cameras back then took films so

6449
04:06:17,230 --> 04:06:15,040
we had a camera but we didn't have film

6450
04:06:18,469 --> 04:06:17,240
and we didn't own a video camera

6451
04:06:20,070 --> 04:06:18,479
[Music]

6452
04:06:21,830 --> 04:06:20,080
um so

6453
04:06:24,710 --> 04:06:21,840
you know we couldn't photograph these

6454
04:06:26,630 --> 04:06:24,720
things so i you know i want to get a

6455
04:06:28,710 --> 04:06:26,640
closer look at this thing so i decided

6456
04:06:31,030 --> 04:06:28,720
to go out to the backyard

6457
04:06:32,710 --> 04:06:31,040
um i remember my mum saying something

6458
04:06:33,670 --> 04:06:32,720
along the lines of don't go out there

6459
04:06:35,990 --> 04:06:33,680
you'll get

6460
04:06:38,070 --> 04:06:36,000
you you might get abducted you know and

6461
04:06:39,189 --> 04:06:38,080
i basically just laughed and kept going

6462
04:06:49,030 --> 04:06:39,199
and

6463
04:06:50,790 --> 04:06:49,040
the backyard

6464
04:06:53,349 --> 04:06:50,800
followed by my dad maybe five or ten

6465
04:06:56,630 --> 04:06:53,359
seconds later this thing started to move

6466
04:06:58,710 --> 04:06:56,640
off slowly so it just started to slowly

6467
04:07:01,910 --> 04:06:58,720
fly off

6468
04:07:05,590 --> 04:07:01,920
as i said completely soundless made no

6469
04:07:09,510 --> 04:07:06,830
was

6470
04:07:11,990 --> 04:07:09,520
approximately 10 to 15 meters in

6471
04:07:15,349 --> 04:07:12,000
diameter so that's maybe

6472
04:07:17,670 --> 04:07:15,359
30 to 40 feet in diameter

6473
04:07:19,830 --> 04:07:17,680
probably from bottom to top of the craft

6474
04:07:23,030 --> 04:07:19,840
two to three meters high so what's that

6475
04:07:25,670 --> 04:07:23,040
six to eight feet and it was probably

6476
04:07:28,870 --> 04:07:25,680
only i would say

6477
04:07:32,389 --> 04:07:28,880
15 to 20 meters or

6478
04:07:34,550 --> 04:07:32,399
45 to 60 feet above

6479
04:07:37,110 --> 04:07:34,560
us so

6480
04:07:38,550 --> 04:07:37,120
it was very close sighting

6481
04:07:41,510 --> 04:07:38,560
all three of us

6482
04:07:43,269 --> 04:07:41,520
um described having seen the exact same

6483
04:07:45,990 --> 04:07:43,279
thing it definitely looked like a

6484
04:07:49,030 --> 04:07:46,000
structured manufactured

6485
04:07:51,750 --> 04:07:49,040
craft so your typical silver metallic

6486
04:07:53,910 --> 04:07:51,760
colored disc shaped ufo

6487
04:07:56,870 --> 04:07:53,920
i guess

6488
04:07:59,429 --> 04:07:56,880
it had a long rectangular

6489
04:08:01,750 --> 04:07:59,439
red light with two

6490
04:08:04,389 --> 04:08:01,760
square white lights on each side of the

6491
04:08:06,630 --> 04:08:04,399
red light on the back of the craft

6492
04:08:09,269 --> 04:08:06,640
definitely didn't see any windows or

6493
04:08:11,429 --> 04:08:09,279
portholes or anything on the craft and

6494
04:08:13,510 --> 04:08:11,439
didn't see any dome on top of it so just

6495
04:08:14,790 --> 04:08:13,520
the silver disc shaped craft with lights

6496
04:08:17,349 --> 04:08:14,800
on the back

6497
04:08:20,469 --> 04:08:17,359
and as we went out to the backyard

6498
04:08:22,790 --> 04:08:20,479
started to fly off slowly in

6499
04:08:25,750 --> 04:08:22,800
probably in first and easterly then more

6500
04:08:27,349 --> 04:08:25,760
of a north easterly direction

6501
04:08:31,590 --> 04:08:27,359
gaining in

6502
04:08:34,469 --> 04:08:31,600
height and speed the further it got away

6503
04:08:36,150 --> 04:08:34,479
um how does that make me feel the whole

6504
04:08:38,630 --> 04:08:36,160
sighting thing well

6505
04:08:41,349 --> 04:08:38,640
prior to this sighting i i can't say i

6506
04:08:43,510 --> 04:08:41,359
had a great interest in ufos i mean i'd

6507
04:08:46,150 --> 04:08:43,520
obviously heard of them

6508
04:08:50,070 --> 04:08:46,160
um seen the movies and all that sort of

6509
04:08:52,550 --> 04:08:50,080
stuff like anyone my mum was obviously

6510
04:08:54,469 --> 04:08:52,560
influenced by that as well i mean her

6511
04:08:56,950 --> 04:08:54,479
comment don't go out you might get

6512
04:08:59,030 --> 04:08:56,960
abducted pretty much says it all you

6513
04:09:01,309 --> 04:08:59,040
know i guess we're conditioned to think

6514
04:09:03,670 --> 04:09:01,319
that these things are

6515
04:09:05,990 --> 04:09:03,680
extraterrestrial through tv and media

6516
04:09:09,269 --> 04:09:06,000
but prior to that i personally had no

6517
04:09:12,070 --> 04:09:09,279
interest in you of those i guess

6518
04:09:14,710 --> 04:09:12,080
i mean i was 17 at the time and yeah i i

6519
04:09:17,590 --> 04:09:14,720
i wouldn't say i was a disbeliever but i

6520
04:09:20,710 --> 04:09:17,600
wasn't a believer i was sort of like

6521
04:09:22,710 --> 04:09:20,720
you know they could exist but who knows

6522
04:09:25,030 --> 04:09:22,720
and i'd never put much more thought into

6523
04:09:27,990 --> 04:09:25,040
it than that at that point in my life

6524
04:09:30,150 --> 04:09:28,000
my dad um complete skeptic doesn't

6525
04:09:31,990 --> 04:09:30,160
believe in aliens visiting earth or

6526
04:09:34,469 --> 04:09:32,000
anything like that

6527
04:09:37,030 --> 04:09:34,479
i will admit that since the sighting i

6528
04:09:39,429 --> 04:09:37,040
developed a keen interest in the topic

6529
04:09:40,950 --> 04:09:39,439
for a while and i read books about it

6530
04:09:43,830 --> 04:09:40,960
and i

6531
04:09:46,790 --> 04:09:43,840
i did start leaning towards the exterior

6532
04:09:48,389 --> 04:09:46,800
extraterrestrial hypothesis myself but

6533
04:09:51,349 --> 04:09:48,399
um

6534
04:09:52,790 --> 04:09:51,359
i never 100 have believed

6535
04:09:54,950 --> 04:09:52,800
in

6536
04:09:57,269 --> 04:09:54,960
what ufos are and they could be many

6537
04:09:59,750 --> 04:09:57,279
different things um

6538
04:10:02,150 --> 04:09:59,760
and to this day i i don't claim to know

6539
04:10:04,550 --> 04:10:02,160
what we saw that night i did lean

6540
04:10:07,269 --> 04:10:04,560
towards the extraterrest terrestrial

6541
04:10:10,229 --> 04:10:07,279
hypothesis for a long time but

6542
04:10:13,110 --> 04:10:10,239
would never say with 100 certainty my

6543
04:10:15,030 --> 04:10:13,120
dad takes the correct position in saying

6544
04:10:16,550 --> 04:10:15,040
i mean he acknowledges having seen it

6545
04:10:17,990 --> 04:10:16,560
still to this day

6546
04:10:19,830 --> 04:10:18,000
but he's always taken the correct

6547
04:10:22,870 --> 04:10:19,840
position and saying i don't know what it

6548
04:10:24,950 --> 04:10:22,880
was and truth be told i don't know what

6549
04:10:27,510 --> 04:10:24,960
it was either

6550
04:10:29,830 --> 04:10:27,520
it's changed my life in the sense that i

6551
04:10:31,429 --> 04:10:29,840
mean since then i have had an interest

6552
04:10:33,429 --> 04:10:31,439
in ufos

6553
04:10:36,550 --> 04:10:33,439
i've also had more of an interest just

6554
04:10:39,750 --> 04:10:36,560
in the universe in general

6555
04:10:42,389 --> 04:10:39,760
and even though i can't say what it was

6556
04:10:45,110 --> 04:10:42,399
um i have to say that the more i learn

6557
04:10:47,510 --> 04:10:45,120
about this topic even the less i seem to

6558
04:10:49,030 --> 04:10:47,520
know about it because

6559
04:10:50,870 --> 04:10:49,040
there is just such a wealth of

6560
04:10:53,349 --> 04:10:50,880
information out there and so many people

6561
04:10:55,349 --> 04:10:53,359
with different opinions but all i can

6562
04:10:58,630 --> 04:10:55,359
say is

6563
04:11:01,510 --> 04:10:58,640
i don't know what it was other than a

6564
04:11:04,830 --> 04:11:01,520
ufo which is exactly what that stands

6565
04:11:08,389 --> 04:11:04,840
for an unidentified flying object

6566
04:11:10,469 --> 04:11:08,399
um it has changed my life in that

6567
04:11:13,510 --> 04:11:10,479
it's definitely made me interested in

6568
04:11:15,110 --> 04:11:13,520
them and i would love to know before i

6569
04:11:17,590 --> 04:11:15,120
die

6570
04:11:22,309 --> 04:11:17,600
what the hell we saw that night and what

6571
04:11:26,469 --> 04:11:23,269
i mean

6572
04:11:28,469 --> 04:11:26,479
yeah i just want i've it's basically

6573
04:11:29,750 --> 04:11:28,479
put me on a lifelong

6574
04:11:31,189 --> 04:11:29,760
search

6575
04:11:33,349 --> 04:11:31,199
for answers

6576
04:11:34,630 --> 04:11:33,359
not that it's consumed my entire life i

6577
04:11:37,030 --> 04:11:34,640
don't

6578
04:11:39,429 --> 04:11:37,040
you know just read ufo books or study

6579
04:11:40,790 --> 04:11:39,439
this subject or whatever but i have had

6580
04:11:43,349 --> 04:11:40,800
an interest

6581
04:11:45,269 --> 04:11:43,359
ever since then and it's

6582
04:11:47,830 --> 04:11:45,279
that interest has definitely rekindled a

6583
04:11:49,510 --> 04:11:47,840
lot more over the last few years that's

6584
04:11:50,370 --> 04:11:49,520
been getting a lot more mainstream media

6585
04:11:51,830 --> 04:11:50,380
attention again

6586
04:11:53,670 --> 04:11:51,840
[Music]

6587
04:11:56,870 --> 04:11:53,680
yeah so that's my story thanks for

6588
04:12:02,550 --> 04:11:59,429
my name is jack i live in norfolk

6589
04:12:03,429 --> 04:12:02,560
virginia currently i'm nearly 50 years

6590
04:12:06,070 --> 04:12:03,439
old

6591
04:12:08,950 --> 04:12:06,080
in the late 70s i'm

6592
04:12:10,150 --> 04:12:08,960
eight or nine years old at the time

6593
04:12:12,070 --> 04:12:10,160
and

6594
04:12:15,189 --> 04:12:12,080
we're shopping

6595
04:12:18,229 --> 04:12:15,199
at a strip mall my mom's in the grocery

6596
04:12:20,309 --> 04:12:18,239
store inside the grocery store my dad my

6597
04:12:22,150 --> 04:12:20,319
brother and i are in the car

6598
04:12:24,550 --> 04:12:22,160
i'm in the back seat

6599
04:12:26,309 --> 04:12:24,560
with a matchbox car

6600
04:12:30,550 --> 04:12:26,319
and i'm playing with it in the back

6601
04:12:32,630 --> 04:12:30,560
window of my dad's ford galaxy i don't

6602
04:12:33,990 --> 04:12:32,640
know if you know but those things can be

6603
04:12:36,150 --> 04:12:34,000
good size

6604
04:12:37,910 --> 04:12:36,160
especially the back windows

6605
04:12:40,710 --> 04:12:37,920
anyway i'm

6606
04:12:42,469 --> 04:12:40,720
playing with the car in the back in on

6607
04:12:46,229 --> 04:12:42,479
the back windowsill

6608
04:12:49,349 --> 04:12:46,239
and i look up in the sky

6609
04:12:51,750 --> 04:12:49,359
and i see what i think at first is

6610
04:12:52,870 --> 04:12:51,760
a hot air balloon like the goodyear

6611
04:12:53,910 --> 04:12:52,880
blimp

6612
04:12:55,269 --> 04:12:53,920
and

6613
04:12:56,150 --> 04:12:55,279
i'm looking

6614
04:12:59,110 --> 04:12:56,160
and i

6615
04:13:00,790 --> 04:12:59,120
get all excited tell my dad and brother

6616
04:13:03,269 --> 04:13:00,800
my brother is

6617
04:13:04,950 --> 04:13:03,279
two three years old at the time so he

6618
04:13:06,950 --> 04:13:04,960
has no clue

6619
04:13:09,990 --> 04:13:06,960
my dad's in the front seat he goes yeah

6620
04:13:11,990 --> 04:13:10,000
okay whatever so i keep looking and a

6621
04:13:13,349 --> 04:13:12,000
couple of seconds after i see it i

6622
04:13:15,830 --> 04:13:13,359
realize

6623
04:13:17,269 --> 04:13:15,840
there's no gondola on the bottom

6624
04:13:19,110 --> 04:13:17,279
okay

6625
04:13:20,870 --> 04:13:19,120
so it's not a blimp

6626
04:13:23,670 --> 04:13:20,880
then what is it

6627
04:13:26,469 --> 04:13:23,680
as it continues it's

6628
04:13:29,349 --> 04:13:26,479
passed through through my field of view

6629
04:13:30,389 --> 04:13:29,359
which is framed by the building to my

6630
04:13:33,429 --> 04:13:30,399
left

6631
04:13:34,550 --> 04:13:33,439
and a clump of trees on my right

6632
04:13:36,149 --> 04:13:34,560
i see

6633
04:13:39,910 --> 04:13:36,159
that it's smooth

6634
04:13:41,830 --> 04:13:39,920
not like a blimp it's completely smooth

6635
04:13:44,389 --> 04:13:41,840
and i noticed something

6636
04:13:48,550 --> 04:13:44,399
it looks like a mirror

6637
04:13:52,070 --> 04:13:48,560
because it's reflecting the sky

6638
04:13:55,189 --> 04:13:52,080
and i swear to you i can see

6639
04:13:57,910 --> 04:13:55,199
the rare cloud that is up there

6640
04:13:58,840 --> 04:13:57,920
i can see it reflect off this thing

6641
04:13:59,990 --> 04:13:58,850
whatever it is

6642
04:14:01,670 --> 04:14:00,000
[Music]

6643
04:14:03,910 --> 04:14:01,680
and the

6644
04:14:06,149 --> 04:14:03,920
thing just keeps going there's no

6645
04:14:08,790 --> 04:14:06,159
contrail there's no

6646
04:14:11,750 --> 04:14:08,800
anything being left behind

6647
04:14:14,950 --> 04:14:11,760
something to myself what is this

6648
04:14:16,229 --> 04:14:14,960
and i continue to watch it

6649
04:14:18,870 --> 04:14:16,239
i'm

6650
04:14:20,229 --> 04:14:18,880
just watching this thing i have no idea

6651
04:14:23,269 --> 04:14:20,239
what it is

6652
04:14:25,670 --> 04:14:23,279
and i continue to watch it and the only

6653
04:14:28,950 --> 04:14:25,680
thing that i can compare it to

6654
04:14:30,309 --> 04:14:28,960
in terms of what i've seen of ufo stuff

6655
04:14:32,309 --> 04:14:30,319
since this

6656
04:14:33,590 --> 04:14:32,319
the closest thing

6657
04:14:35,269 --> 04:14:33,600
is the

6658
04:14:37,990 --> 04:14:35,279
what's his name this

6659
04:14:40,229 --> 04:14:38,000
the new mexico sheriff

6660
04:14:41,750 --> 04:14:40,239
the one that had the encounter

6661
04:14:43,910 --> 04:14:41,760
in the desert

6662
04:14:45,269 --> 04:14:43,920
i can't remember his name or the city

6663
04:14:46,950 --> 04:14:45,279
he's from

6664
04:14:48,550 --> 04:14:46,960
at the time

6665
04:14:49,670 --> 04:14:48,560
but

6666
04:14:53,030 --> 04:14:49,680
anyway

6667
04:14:56,070 --> 04:14:53,040
it continues across my field of view

6668
04:14:59,110 --> 04:14:56,080
and then about halfway through

6669
04:15:01,750 --> 04:14:59,120
i see two jets giving chase they must

6670
04:15:03,189 --> 04:15:01,760
have been scrambled out of nes langley

6671
04:15:05,910 --> 04:15:03,199
or whatever

6672
04:15:07,030 --> 04:15:05,920
so i'm continuing to watch this thing

6673
04:15:09,429 --> 04:15:07,040
happen

6674
04:15:12,469 --> 04:15:09,439
and i take a brief look around and i

6675
04:15:14,309 --> 04:15:12,479
don't see having anybody seen this so i

6676
04:15:16,870 --> 04:15:14,319
continue to look up

6677
04:15:18,389 --> 04:15:16,880
and the thing was moving fairly slowly

6678
04:15:19,750 --> 04:15:18,399
to my

6679
04:15:22,630 --> 04:15:19,760
knowledge

6680
04:15:24,630 --> 04:15:22,640
at the time it was moving across the sky

6681
04:15:28,550 --> 04:15:24,640
and this thing

6682
04:15:30,790 --> 04:15:28,560
once i see the jets come into view

6683
04:15:32,710 --> 04:15:30,800
it looked like it sped up

6684
04:15:34,870 --> 04:15:32,720
that's the only way i can explain it it

6685
04:15:37,349 --> 04:15:34,880
looked like it might have sped up

6686
04:15:39,429 --> 04:15:37,359
because by the time the jets get a

6687
04:15:41,189 --> 04:15:39,439
quarter of the way through

6688
04:15:43,269 --> 04:15:41,199
through my field of view

6689
04:15:46,070 --> 04:15:43,279
this thing is already starting getting

6690
04:15:50,550 --> 04:15:46,080
ready to disappear behind the buildings

6691
04:15:52,710 --> 04:15:50,560
and i'm thinking to myself what is this

6692
04:15:55,269 --> 04:15:52,720
and i get all excited i get hyped up

6693
04:15:56,389 --> 04:15:55,279
like i've had like 50 things of sugar or

6694
04:16:03,110 --> 04:15:56,399
something

6695
04:16:07,510 --> 04:16:05,349
did you see what i see

6696
04:16:10,630 --> 04:16:07,520
and he's in the front seat he can't see

6697
04:16:12,790 --> 04:16:10,640
out the back so he has no idea what i'm

6698
04:16:15,269 --> 04:16:12,800
talking about and he has no interest of

6699
04:16:17,429 --> 04:16:15,279
getting out of the car to look

6700
04:16:18,550 --> 04:16:17,439
and my little brother's in his car seat

6701
04:16:20,149 --> 04:16:18,560
so

6702
04:16:22,710 --> 04:16:20,159
he has no

6703
04:16:25,910 --> 04:16:22,720
way to know what's going on other than

6704
04:16:27,830 --> 04:16:25,920
what i'm telling and before the

6705
04:16:29,269 --> 04:16:27,840
before the um

6706
04:16:32,950 --> 04:16:29,279
airplanes

6707
04:16:35,030 --> 04:16:32,960
get too far into my field of view

6708
04:16:37,590 --> 04:16:35,040
the thing's already gone

6709
04:16:40,790 --> 04:16:37,600
now a couple of things

6710
04:16:43,429 --> 04:16:40,800
first off it was teardrop shaped

6711
04:16:44,950 --> 04:16:43,439
so that the teardrop the

6712
04:16:46,790 --> 04:16:44,960
pointed end

6713
04:16:49,750 --> 04:16:46,800
is moving forward

6714
04:16:53,590 --> 04:16:49,760
it looks absolutely smooth

6715
04:16:54,830 --> 04:16:53,600
no seams on it whatsoever

6716
04:16:57,910 --> 04:16:54,840
and

6717
04:16:59,910 --> 04:16:57,920
also like i said there was a it felt it

6718
04:17:01,349 --> 04:16:59,920
looked like it was a mirror finish on

6719
04:17:03,110 --> 04:17:01,359
the bottom of it

6720
04:17:04,389 --> 04:17:03,120
because it looked like it was reflecting

6721
04:17:05,590 --> 04:17:04,399
the sky

6722
04:17:07,990 --> 04:17:05,600
and

6723
04:17:10,710 --> 04:17:08,000
for a split second i thought i could see

6724
04:17:13,030 --> 04:17:10,720
something that would be akin to

6725
04:17:15,990 --> 04:17:13,040
maybe trying to reflect the sun off of

6726
04:17:17,429 --> 04:17:16,000
it but it was just briefly most of it

6727
04:17:19,750 --> 04:17:17,439
was looking like it was trying to

6728
04:17:22,830 --> 04:17:19,760
reflect sky so it looked like it was

6729
04:17:27,510 --> 04:17:22,840
trying to blend into the sky

6730
04:17:29,269 --> 04:17:27,520
and i have no idea what it is to this

6731
04:17:30,630 --> 04:17:29,279
day i don't know

6732
04:17:33,110 --> 04:17:30,640
and

6733
04:17:34,550 --> 04:17:33,120
the only thing that lends any credence

6734
04:17:37,030 --> 04:17:34,560
to it for me

6735
04:17:40,149 --> 04:17:37,040
it makes me think i saw something is

6736
04:17:42,469 --> 04:17:40,159
because i saw the planes give chase

6737
04:17:44,229 --> 04:17:42,479
otherwise i might have put it on my mind

6738
04:17:45,910 --> 04:17:44,239
forgotten all about it

6739
04:17:47,750 --> 04:17:45,920
but when the plane started getting

6740
04:17:50,149 --> 04:17:47,760
chased i'm going

6741
04:17:54,149 --> 04:17:50,159
i'm seeing something really

6742
04:17:56,710 --> 04:17:54,159
i have no idea what it was it could be

6743
04:17:58,149 --> 04:17:56,720
alien it could be

6744
04:17:59,269 --> 04:17:58,159
man-made

6745
04:18:00,870 --> 04:17:59,279
something that's

6746
04:18:03,110 --> 04:18:00,880
still to come

6747
04:18:04,870 --> 04:18:03,120
or something that we may never get to

6748
04:18:06,950 --> 04:18:04,880
find out about

6749
04:18:09,189 --> 04:18:06,960
whatever it was

6750
04:18:10,790 --> 04:18:09,199
it was like nothing i've ever seen in

6751
04:18:12,229 --> 04:18:10,800
the sky

6752
04:18:15,189 --> 04:18:12,239
i mean

6753
04:18:18,710 --> 04:18:15,199
it looks somewhere between a blimp

6754
04:18:20,389 --> 04:18:18,720
a teardrop and a missile

6755
04:18:23,030 --> 04:18:20,399
no contrail

6756
04:18:27,110 --> 04:18:23,040
no noise except for the plane

6757
04:18:28,550 --> 04:18:27,120
this thing did not make a sound

6758
04:18:30,870 --> 04:18:28,560
now

6759
04:18:31,990 --> 04:18:30,880
i can speculate for days of what it

6760
04:18:39,030 --> 04:18:32,000
could be

6761
04:18:42,550 --> 04:18:41,189
hello people um i'd like to share a

6762
04:18:44,950 --> 04:18:42,560
story with you

6763
04:18:47,269 --> 04:18:44,960
which uh a ufo story which has happened

6764
04:18:49,990 --> 04:18:47,279
to myself and my brother around 40 years

6765
04:18:52,550 --> 04:18:50,000
ago so it was a long time ago but the

6766
04:18:54,550 --> 04:18:52,560
relevance of it has not changed

6767
04:18:57,910 --> 04:18:54,560
briefly my brother and i witnessed a

6768
04:19:00,229 --> 04:18:57,920
chase between two hostile craft

6769
04:19:02,870 --> 04:19:00,239
the chase resulted in one of those craft

6770
04:19:05,349 --> 04:19:02,880
crashing into a tree and a third party

6771
04:19:07,830 --> 04:19:05,359
was involved that third party

6772
04:19:09,110 --> 04:19:07,840
was able to get a close-up look on at

6773
04:19:11,590 --> 04:19:09,120
the craft

6774
04:19:13,910 --> 04:19:11,600
it measured around eight meters long and

6775
04:19:14,830 --> 04:19:13,920
appeared like a yellow speed boat shape

6776
04:19:17,110 --> 04:19:14,840
from the

6777
04:19:19,750 --> 04:19:17,120
underneath i suppose i'll go into some

6778
04:19:21,830 --> 04:19:19,760
detail about what my brother and i

6779
04:19:22,710 --> 04:19:21,840
witnessed we were quite young at the

6780
04:19:25,429 --> 04:19:22,720
time

6781
04:19:27,590 --> 04:19:25,439
but um our house looked um looked over a

6782
04:19:28,710 --> 04:19:27,600
valley up towards the state township of

6783
04:19:30,229 --> 04:19:28,720
sterling

6784
04:19:31,269 --> 04:19:30,239
at the end of the valley there was a

6785
04:19:33,590 --> 04:19:31,279
ridge

6786
04:19:35,830 --> 04:19:33,600
with some pine trees on it and we knew

6787
04:19:37,910 --> 04:19:35,840
the valley well we'd hear cars and

6788
04:19:40,389 --> 04:19:37,920
helicopters and any other mechanical

6789
04:19:42,790 --> 04:19:40,399
devices the sound seemed to echo down

6790
04:19:44,870 --> 04:19:42,800
the valley well on this particular night

6791
04:19:46,950 --> 04:19:44,880
my brother called out said phil come and

6792
04:19:48,710 --> 04:19:46,960
check this out at the end of the valley

6793
04:19:50,950 --> 04:19:48,720
just above the tree line

6794
04:19:53,349 --> 04:19:50,960
was a yellow object

6795
04:19:55,349 --> 04:19:53,359
it was hovering wobbling around then it

6796
04:19:57,750 --> 04:19:55,359
would resume its hover

6797
04:19:59,349 --> 04:19:57,760
and we knew that this was not any

6798
04:20:00,710 --> 04:19:59,359
ordinary craft so we were pretty

6799
04:20:04,149 --> 04:20:00,720
interested

6800
04:20:06,790 --> 04:20:04,159
a few minutes later a red object joined

6801
04:20:09,349 --> 04:20:06,800
this yellow object and it was almost

6802
04:20:11,189 --> 04:20:09,359
had a cartoon-like quality to it

6803
04:20:12,550 --> 04:20:11,199
the the red object zoomed up to the

6804
04:20:15,030 --> 04:20:12,560
yellow object

6805
04:20:17,269 --> 04:20:15,040
reversed up and then zoomed up again as

6806
04:20:19,670 --> 04:20:17,279
if the yellow occupants had not actually

6807
04:20:22,149 --> 04:20:19,680
noticed the presence of it the yellow

6808
04:20:24,870 --> 04:20:22,159
object took off took off as fast as a

6809
04:20:27,510 --> 04:20:24,880
rocket and the red object followed so

6810
04:20:30,950 --> 04:20:27,520
these craft zigzagged across

6811
04:20:32,550 --> 04:20:30,960
our valley back and forth many times in

6812
04:20:34,389 --> 04:20:32,560
very close pursuit

6813
04:20:35,510 --> 04:20:34,399
sort of like a couple of blow flies if

6814
04:20:38,389 --> 04:20:35,520
you've ever watched a couple of

6815
04:20:41,670 --> 04:20:38,399
blowflies zipping around the sky they

6816
04:20:44,149 --> 04:20:41,680
they almost uh operate as if they're on

6817
04:20:47,189 --> 04:20:44,159
on the same brain because the they don't

6818
04:20:49,590 --> 04:20:47,199
they they stay such a close uniform

6819
04:20:51,429 --> 04:20:49,600
distance apart um

6820
04:20:53,670 --> 04:20:51,439
it's it's quite impressive to watch and

6821
04:20:55,910 --> 04:20:53,680
these craft performed like that every

6822
04:20:58,229 --> 04:20:55,920
now and again the yellow object became

6823
04:20:59,990 --> 04:20:58,239
stuck as if it was uh caught by some

6824
04:21:01,110 --> 04:21:00,000
invisible force and it would shake back

6825
04:21:03,189 --> 04:21:01,120
and forth

6826
04:21:05,750 --> 04:21:03,199
and then it would free itself and the

6827
04:21:08,790 --> 04:21:05,760
chase would would continue

6828
04:21:11,590 --> 04:21:08,800
the sort of movements of these craft

6829
04:21:13,189 --> 04:21:11,600
were nothing like any uh conventional

6830
04:21:15,990 --> 04:21:13,199
aircraft could do

6831
04:21:18,309 --> 04:21:16,000
the accelerations were instant so that's

6832
04:21:21,990 --> 04:21:18,319
that'd be from a stationary position

6833
04:21:24,710 --> 04:21:22,000
get to a speed instantly and stop turn

6834
04:21:26,950 --> 04:21:24,720
reverse with no change in velocity at

6835
04:21:29,189 --> 04:21:26,960
all so the it was like watching ping

6836
04:21:30,630 --> 04:21:29,199
pong balls bounce off of a wall that

6837
04:21:32,870 --> 04:21:30,640
obviously overcome

6838
04:21:35,349 --> 04:21:32,880
the barriers of inertia there appeared

6839
04:21:37,189 --> 04:21:35,359
to be no inertia to the movements of

6840
04:21:39,510 --> 04:21:37,199
these craft

6841
04:21:41,590 --> 04:21:39,520
we had enough time to run into our

6842
04:21:43,990 --> 04:21:41,600
parents room and try to get them out of

6843
04:21:46,710 --> 04:21:44,000
bed to come and watch this

6844
04:21:47,510 --> 04:21:46,720
but they told us to go back to sleep so

6845
04:21:49,510 --> 04:21:47,520
they

6846
04:21:52,229 --> 04:21:49,520
perhaps didn't believe us

6847
04:21:54,870 --> 04:21:52,239
eventually the yellow craft had enough

6848
04:21:57,990 --> 04:21:54,880
of this chase and took off to our right

6849
04:21:59,830 --> 04:21:58,000
and disappeared behind a hill uh we that

6850
04:22:01,269 --> 04:21:59,840
was the end of the event we didn't see

6851
04:22:02,550 --> 04:22:01,279
any more chasing and we didn't see any

6852
04:22:05,110 --> 04:22:02,560
more craft

6853
04:22:06,790 --> 04:22:05,120
the um we waited probably for an hour

6854
04:22:08,309 --> 04:22:06,800
afterwards to see if that would reappear

6855
04:22:11,110 --> 04:22:08,319
but they didn't

6856
04:22:13,030 --> 04:22:11,120
all up the sighting lasted maybe 15

6857
04:22:16,550 --> 04:22:13,040
minutes in total

6858
04:22:19,910 --> 04:22:16,560
now two days later uh the in the paper

6859
04:22:22,229 --> 04:22:19,920
another chap had reported on the same

6860
04:22:25,189 --> 04:22:22,239
night at the same time

6861
04:22:26,790 --> 04:22:25,199
uh hearing a loud crash he ran out the

6862
04:22:29,590 --> 04:22:26,800
back of his house

6863
04:22:33,030 --> 04:22:29,600
shone the torch into a tree and

6864
04:22:35,510 --> 04:22:33,040
saw this yellow object wedged some 30 or

6865
04:22:37,189 --> 04:22:35,520
40 meters into the upper branches of

6866
04:22:39,830 --> 04:22:37,199
this tree

6867
04:22:41,670 --> 04:22:39,840
he described it as an eight meter long

6868
04:22:42,950 --> 04:22:41,680
yellow speedboat shape from the

6869
04:22:45,269 --> 04:22:42,960
underside

6870
04:22:47,429 --> 04:22:45,279
now the craft had knocked off a branch

6871
04:22:48,630 --> 04:22:47,439
measuring some 30 centimeters in

6872
04:22:50,469 --> 04:22:48,640
diameter

6873
04:22:52,630 --> 04:22:50,479
and had done significant damage to the

6874
04:22:55,990 --> 04:22:52,640
tree so it had a pretty significant

6875
04:22:58,710 --> 04:22:56,000
impact but it wasn't destroyed

6876
04:23:01,269 --> 04:22:58,720
daryl the chap who had witnessed this

6877
04:23:03,269 --> 04:23:01,279
called the police and they did turn up

6878
04:23:04,950 --> 04:23:03,279
but by the time they turned up the craft

6879
04:23:07,349 --> 04:23:04,960
had disappeared

6880
04:23:09,910 --> 04:23:07,359
but from my brother's perspective and my

6881
04:23:11,590 --> 04:23:09,920
own perspective we knew daryl was

6882
04:23:12,790 --> 04:23:11,600
telling the truth because we had

6883
04:23:15,429 --> 04:23:12,800
witnessed

6884
04:23:16,710 --> 04:23:15,439
the same event on the same night at the

6885
04:23:17,510 --> 04:23:16,720
same time

6886
04:23:19,910 --> 04:23:17,520
and

6887
04:23:22,950 --> 04:23:19,920
where the craft had disappeared to from

6888
04:23:25,030 --> 04:23:22,960
our own vision was where daryl lived

6889
04:23:25,910 --> 04:23:25,040
which was behind that hill

6890
04:23:28,229 --> 04:23:25,920
so

6891
04:23:32,149 --> 04:23:28,239
we knew that the two events or the two

6892
04:23:33,990 --> 04:23:32,159
sightings were the same event

6893
04:23:36,229 --> 04:23:34,000
so i guess

6894
04:23:39,429 --> 04:23:36,239
my reason for bringing this out to

6895
04:23:41,349 --> 04:23:39,439
public is that i'm hoping to bring the

6896
04:23:43,030 --> 04:23:41,359
conversation to move the conversation

6897
04:23:45,349 --> 04:23:43,040
forward beyond the believe it or not

6898
04:23:47,429 --> 04:23:45,359
stage most of the public still seem

6899
04:23:50,070 --> 04:23:47,439
unconvinced that we are actually being

6900
04:23:52,630 --> 04:23:50,080
visited and uh from my own perspective

6901
04:23:55,510 --> 04:23:52,640
uh well it's there is no question these

6902
04:23:56,870 --> 04:23:55,520
these craft was so far beyond the human

6903
04:24:00,630 --> 04:23:56,880
inventory

6904
04:24:03,110 --> 04:24:00,640
especially during the 1980s when i think

6905
04:24:06,950 --> 04:24:03,120
the first handheld calculator only came

6906
04:24:08,550 --> 04:24:06,960
out in 1972 into australia so we were

6907
04:24:10,389 --> 04:24:08,560
still pretty primitive as far as

6908
04:24:11,910 --> 04:24:10,399
electronic technology went

6909
04:24:15,110 --> 04:24:11,920
and these craft

6910
04:24:17,990 --> 04:24:15,120
performed like nothing that uh the human

6911
04:24:18,790 --> 04:24:18,000
inventory had in its possession

6912
04:24:20,710 --> 04:24:18,800
so

6913
04:24:22,469 --> 04:24:20,720
it leaves

6914
04:24:25,349 --> 04:24:22,479
very little

6915
04:24:28,790 --> 04:24:25,359
other explanations except to say that

6916
04:24:30,630 --> 04:24:28,800
these intelligences behind these craft

6917
04:24:32,309 --> 04:24:30,640
were non-human

6918
04:24:35,349 --> 04:24:32,319
and likely

6919
04:24:41,189 --> 04:24:37,670
so the question is all the questions

6920
04:24:42,950 --> 04:24:41,199
which i would like the conversation to

6921
04:24:44,870 --> 04:24:42,960
pursue is

6922
04:24:46,950 --> 04:24:44,880
what are they doing here you know these

6923
04:24:49,670 --> 04:24:46,960
are these are important questions

6924
04:24:51,750 --> 04:24:49,680
uh are they here to help us or are they

6925
04:24:52,870 --> 04:24:51,760
here to protect their own interest in

6926
04:24:54,710 --> 04:24:52,880
the planet

6927
04:24:56,389 --> 04:24:54,720
we this is the level of conversation

6928
04:24:59,590 --> 04:24:56,399
that we need to get to and we need to

6929
04:25:02,389 --> 04:24:59,600
move beyond the believe it or not stage

6930
04:25:03,510 --> 04:25:02,399
i believe that the conversation is very

6931
04:25:05,830 --> 04:25:03,520
important

6932
04:25:08,550 --> 04:25:05,840
the fact that my brother and i witnessed

6933
04:25:09,990 --> 04:25:08,560
conflict tells us an enormous amount

6934
04:25:11,189 --> 04:25:10,000
about

6935
04:25:17,269 --> 04:25:11,199
the

6936
04:25:19,910 --> 04:25:17,279
doing stuff on earth

6937
04:25:22,229 --> 04:25:19,920
if there's conflict that still exists

6938
04:25:24,950 --> 04:25:22,239
within these extraterrestrial groups

6939
04:25:26,550 --> 04:25:24,960
then it's likely that self-interest also

6940
04:25:28,710 --> 04:25:26,560
exists

6941
04:25:30,469 --> 04:25:28,720
and this is this is sort of probably one

6942
04:25:32,630 --> 04:25:30,479
of the most important parts of the

6943
04:25:35,269 --> 04:25:32,640
conversation is that

6944
04:25:37,830 --> 04:25:35,279
a lot of the a lot of the conversation

6945
04:25:40,149 --> 04:25:37,840
seems to be or a lot of witnesses seem

6946
04:25:42,630 --> 04:25:40,159
to think that they are here to help us

6947
04:25:44,469 --> 04:25:42,640
well it may it may be that these

6948
04:25:46,070 --> 04:25:44,479
entities are more benevolent than the

6949
04:25:48,149 --> 04:25:46,080
human race

6950
04:25:49,750 --> 04:25:48,159
uh after all we're pretty well like

6951
04:25:53,110 --> 04:25:49,760
planet of the apes we're a bunch of

6952
04:25:55,910 --> 04:25:53,120
warring tribes so there's no

6953
04:25:58,550 --> 04:25:55,920
no credits to the human species at all

6954
04:26:01,429 --> 04:25:58,560
but whether they're here to help us or

6955
04:26:04,550 --> 04:26:01,439
protect their own interest is really the

6956
04:26:07,189 --> 04:26:04,560
uh the big question

6957
04:26:09,110 --> 04:26:07,199
uh i hope that you guys consider

6958
04:26:11,990 --> 04:26:09,120
uh from your own experiences

6959
04:26:14,389 --> 04:26:12,000
what sort of evidence that

6960
04:26:16,309 --> 04:26:14,399
you've witnessed personally

6961
04:26:18,309 --> 04:26:16,319
that will add to this story and i

6962
04:26:20,870 --> 04:26:18,319
encourage you guys to bring it out so

6963
04:26:23,189 --> 04:26:20,880
that we can begin a conversation because

6964
04:26:24,710 --> 04:26:23,199
our governments are not our institutions

6965
04:26:25,990 --> 04:26:24,720
are letting us down

6966
04:26:28,550 --> 04:26:26,000
they um

6967
04:26:30,950 --> 04:26:28,560
and they've been in denial as much as uh

6968
04:26:32,389 --> 04:26:30,960
most of the general public

6969
04:26:34,309 --> 04:26:32,399
so

6970
04:26:45,990 --> 04:26:34,319
thanks for listening and i hope i'll

6971
04:26:50,229 --> 04:26:49,429
my name is benedict i'm 36 years old i

6972
04:26:52,550 --> 04:26:50,239
am

6973
04:26:54,309 --> 04:26:52,560
i'm originally icelandic but i've been

6974
04:26:58,389 --> 04:26:54,319
i've been living in norway for the past

6975
04:27:02,710 --> 04:26:58,399
30 years i am also a technology student

6976
04:27:05,110 --> 04:27:02,720
i had a pretty crazy experience in 2010

6977
04:27:07,510 --> 04:27:05,120
at that point i was already very into

6978
04:27:09,750 --> 04:27:07,520
ufos i was researching and i was

6979
04:27:14,630 --> 04:27:09,760
actually writing a blog about it

6980
04:27:16,309 --> 04:27:14,640
i was also into kind of a paranormal and

6981
04:27:18,870 --> 04:27:16,319
kind of occult

6982
04:27:20,469 --> 04:27:18,880
magic ritual stuff

6983
04:27:23,189 --> 04:27:20,479
so i am

6984
04:27:25,110 --> 04:27:23,199
i was into something called sigil magic

6985
04:27:27,830 --> 04:27:25,120
this is kind of a technique that you use

6986
04:27:30,710 --> 04:27:27,840
to try to manifest something in your

6987
04:27:33,830 --> 04:27:30,720
life and i i did this ritual to try to

6988
04:27:36,790 --> 04:27:33,840
make contact with ufos or ets

6989
04:27:38,630 --> 04:27:36,800
sometime after this i was getting ready

6990
04:27:41,670 --> 04:27:38,640
to go to work i was working a night

6991
04:27:43,030 --> 04:27:41,680
shift at a hotel so it was late at night

6992
04:27:45,510 --> 04:27:43,040
the minute i

6993
04:27:47,910 --> 04:27:45,520
pulled up my curtains

6994
04:27:51,429 --> 04:27:47,920
i could see this glowing object in the

6995
04:27:54,550 --> 04:27:51,439
sky i knew straight away that it was

6996
04:27:57,189 --> 04:27:54,560
something extraordinary so i just it i

6997
04:28:00,229 --> 04:27:57,199
looked at it for one second and then i

6998
04:28:02,070 --> 04:28:00,239
i ran out to the driveway um

6999
04:28:03,510 --> 04:28:02,080
when i got to the driveway i saw there

7000
04:28:05,189 --> 04:28:03,520
were three of these

7001
04:28:08,229 --> 04:28:05,199
objects

7002
04:28:09,750 --> 04:28:08,239
in kind of the same area of the sky they

7003
04:28:10,950 --> 04:28:09,760
were just

7004
04:28:13,030 --> 04:28:10,960
glowing

7005
04:28:15,110 --> 04:28:13,040
orbs of light really

7006
04:28:16,710 --> 04:28:15,120
kind of golden reddish

7007
04:28:17,750 --> 04:28:16,720
very intensely

7008
04:28:19,269 --> 04:28:17,760
glowing

7009
04:28:21,510 --> 04:28:19,279
lights

7010
04:28:24,229 --> 04:28:21,520
they were moving slowly around this the

7011
04:28:25,750 --> 04:28:24,239
same area and

7012
04:28:29,189 --> 04:28:25,760
they were kind of playing with each

7013
04:28:31,349 --> 04:28:29,199
other i could see one time they made a

7014
04:28:34,309 --> 04:28:31,359
right angle triangle

7015
04:28:37,990 --> 04:28:34,319
at five different occasions they kind of

7016
04:28:40,389 --> 04:28:38,000
powered up this insanely to this insane

7017
04:28:42,870 --> 04:28:40,399
intensity like like 10 times the

7018
04:28:45,990 --> 04:28:42,880
intensity that it was originally and the

7019
04:28:47,349 --> 04:28:46,000
original intensity was very very intense

7020
04:28:49,750 --> 04:28:47,359
also

7021
04:28:51,830 --> 04:28:49,760
so they would hold this new intensity

7022
04:28:54,070 --> 04:28:51,840
for maybe six to nine seconds and then

7023
04:28:56,229 --> 04:28:54,080
they would go down again

7024
04:28:58,229 --> 04:28:56,239
the power-up sequences made me feel like

7025
04:29:01,110 --> 04:28:58,239
there was kind of this enormous amount

7026
04:29:02,630 --> 04:29:01,120
of energy being channeled into our our

7027
04:29:04,630 --> 04:29:02,640
reality

7028
04:29:06,469 --> 04:29:04,640
like there was some kind of reservoir

7029
04:29:08,309 --> 04:29:06,479
being pumped in

7030
04:29:11,189 --> 04:29:08,319
it was like all the colors of the

7031
04:29:12,950 --> 04:29:11,199
spectrum just radiating at once from the

7032
04:29:14,790 --> 04:29:12,960
from the from the point

7033
04:29:16,389 --> 04:29:14,800
they were kind of putting on a show for

7034
04:29:20,389 --> 04:29:16,399
me

7035
04:29:22,229 --> 04:29:20,399
best is you know they were kind of

7036
04:29:23,990 --> 04:29:22,239
fading in and out sometimes it would it

7037
04:29:25,349 --> 04:29:24,000
was fade out and then it was come back

7038
04:29:28,710 --> 04:29:25,359
into reality

7039
04:29:29,429 --> 04:29:28,720
so this this maneuver that i remember is

7040
04:29:31,910 --> 04:29:29,439
uh

7041
04:29:33,830 --> 04:29:31,920
one of them would fade in at one place

7042
04:29:36,550 --> 04:29:33,840
another one would fade in a little bit

7043
04:29:38,790 --> 04:29:36,560
above and to the right and

7044
04:29:40,790 --> 04:29:38,800
move over the first one

7045
04:29:41,910 --> 04:29:40,800
and the moment it

7046
04:29:44,550 --> 04:29:41,920
kind of was

7047
04:29:46,389 --> 04:29:44,560
just above the first one

7048
04:29:49,510 --> 04:29:46,399
the the lower one would

7049
04:29:51,830 --> 04:29:49,520
light up as i just uh described

7050
04:29:53,269 --> 04:29:51,840
to an insane uh

7051
04:29:55,750 --> 04:29:53,279
intensity

7052
04:29:58,630 --> 04:29:55,760
watching the the phenomenon movie i i

7053
04:30:00,389 --> 04:29:58,640
saw one person describe the ufos i saw

7054
04:30:02,229 --> 04:30:00,399
as if they were looking

7055
04:30:04,229 --> 04:30:02,239
down at a hot coal

7056
04:30:06,630 --> 04:30:04,239
this was very similar to what i would

7057
04:30:09,269 --> 04:30:06,640
describe with this ufos it was just a

7058
04:30:10,870 --> 04:30:09,279
glowing object that was glowing from all

7059
04:30:13,030 --> 04:30:10,880
directions

7060
04:30:16,309 --> 04:30:13,040
so i was actually watching this thing

7061
04:30:19,030 --> 04:30:16,319
for about 90 minutes in total

7062
04:30:20,870 --> 04:30:19,040
i was standing outside in the cold just

7063
04:30:23,510 --> 04:30:20,880
watching this and when they when they

7064
04:30:25,990 --> 04:30:23,520
were lighting up i just kind of

7065
04:30:28,950 --> 04:30:26,000
i screamed of joy

7066
04:30:32,309 --> 04:30:28,960
it was just so intense for me

7067
04:30:35,670 --> 04:30:32,319
so the experience ended with three

7068
04:30:38,389 --> 04:30:35,680
military planes as i i i could i

7069
04:30:40,710 --> 04:30:38,399
identify them as the type of hercules

7070
04:30:41,670 --> 04:30:40,720
planes they were big propeller driven

7071
04:30:44,870 --> 04:30:41,680
planes

7072
04:30:48,309 --> 04:30:44,880
they came from the direction behind me

7073
04:30:51,030 --> 04:30:50,070
the middle one

7074
04:30:53,429 --> 04:30:51,040
flew

7075
04:30:54,790 --> 04:30:53,439
i think maybe about 500 meters straight

7076
04:30:56,469 --> 04:30:54,800
above my head

7077
04:30:59,670 --> 04:30:56,479
and they were they were going in the

7078
04:31:01,990 --> 04:30:59,680
direction of these lights these objects

7079
04:31:04,870 --> 04:31:02,000
the middle plane that flew over my head

7080
04:31:07,510 --> 04:31:04,880
flew in a straight line in the collision

7081
04:31:09,429 --> 04:31:07,520
course towards one of the

7082
04:31:12,309 --> 04:31:09,439
stationary ufos

7083
04:31:15,030 --> 04:31:12,319
and it flew extremely close to it i was

7084
04:31:17,030 --> 04:31:15,040
standing on the ground there and i was

7085
04:31:19,349 --> 04:31:17,040
i was afraid that it was going to crash

7086
04:31:21,750 --> 04:31:19,359
into it but in in the last second the

7087
04:31:24,070 --> 04:31:21,760
airplane very abruptly

7088
04:31:26,309 --> 04:31:24,080
turned to the right i think it must have

7089
04:31:27,750 --> 04:31:26,319
turned as fast as this type of airplane

7090
04:31:29,750 --> 04:31:27,760
can turn

7091
04:31:30,630 --> 04:31:29,760
it looks very dramatic

7092
04:31:33,110 --> 04:31:30,640
and

7093
04:31:36,149 --> 04:31:33,120
you can just imagine three of these

7094
04:31:38,870 --> 04:31:36,159
big hercules planes flying low over the

7095
04:31:40,550 --> 04:31:38,880
town it was just a massive sound

7096
04:31:41,510 --> 04:31:40,560
it was like a scene out of a movie

7097
04:31:44,070 --> 04:31:41,520
really

7098
04:31:46,070 --> 04:31:44,080
shortly after these planes came and

7099
04:31:47,750 --> 04:31:46,080
confronted them i

7100
04:31:51,110 --> 04:31:47,760
i had to go to work

7101
04:31:53,189 --> 04:31:51,120
so i had to leave the area

7102
04:31:55,510 --> 04:31:53,199
there were a lot of things that points

7103
04:31:59,189 --> 04:31:55,520
me in the direction that this experience

7104
04:32:01,030 --> 04:31:59,199
was put on for me personally i know it

7105
04:32:02,710 --> 04:32:01,040
sounds crazy but it's the only thing

7106
04:32:05,670 --> 04:32:02,720
that makes sense to me

7107
04:32:07,590 --> 04:32:05,680
not only that i did this magic ritual to

7108
04:32:09,510 --> 04:32:07,600
try to attract this experience and and

7109
04:32:13,590 --> 04:32:09,520
then it happened um this had this

7110
04:32:16,870 --> 04:32:13,600
happened on the 20th of october 2010

7111
04:32:19,510 --> 04:32:16,880
before and after 20 10 o'clock

7112
04:32:23,269 --> 04:32:19,520
so in in the time format of my country

7113
04:32:27,349 --> 04:32:23,279
it happened 2010 2010 2010.

7114
04:32:29,750 --> 04:32:27,359
it's triple 2010 there were three ufos

7115
04:32:31,349 --> 04:32:29,760
there were three airplanes

7116
04:32:33,510 --> 04:32:31,359
it just

7117
04:32:34,469 --> 04:32:33,520
the symmetry of the date makes me feel

7118
04:32:36,070 --> 04:32:34,479
that they

7119
04:32:39,830 --> 04:32:36,080
they have

7120
04:32:42,389 --> 04:32:39,840
complete control of our time system down

7121
04:32:43,910 --> 04:32:42,399
to the minute and i think it was kind of

7122
04:32:46,070 --> 04:32:43,920
a demonstration that this wasn't a

7123
04:32:47,910 --> 04:32:46,080
random event

7124
04:32:49,110 --> 04:32:47,920
another thing that makes me think this

7125
04:32:51,030 --> 04:32:49,120
is that

7126
04:32:53,269 --> 04:32:51,040
the window i first looked out looked out

7127
04:32:54,870 --> 04:32:53,279
to see them the first time that there

7128
04:32:57,830 --> 04:32:54,880
are a lot of trees in front of the

7129
04:33:00,469 --> 04:32:57,840
windows so there's actually a very a

7130
04:33:02,630 --> 04:33:00,479
little patch of clear sky

7131
04:33:03,830 --> 04:33:02,640
and this ufo was in the middle of this

7132
04:33:06,310 --> 04:33:03,840
patch

7133
04:33:08,070 --> 04:33:06,320
so it that's kind of strange

7134
04:33:09,990 --> 04:33:08,080
also

7135
04:33:12,629 --> 04:33:10,000
sometime while i was

7136
04:33:14,150 --> 04:33:12,639
standing there watching this i i had a

7137
04:33:16,390 --> 04:33:14,160
good view um

7138
04:33:18,709 --> 04:33:16,400
in general but i felt if i walked a

7139
04:33:20,629 --> 04:33:18,719
little bit down the street uh i would

7140
04:33:22,869 --> 04:33:20,639
have an even better view so i tried to

7141
04:33:25,510 --> 04:33:22,879
walk down the street

7142
04:33:28,470 --> 04:33:25,520
uh but then they just disappeared and

7143
04:33:30,310 --> 04:33:28,480
there was nothing so

7144
04:33:32,150 --> 04:33:30,320
the moment i walked back to the to my

7145
04:33:34,150 --> 04:33:32,160
driveway it started up again with the

7146
04:33:36,310 --> 04:33:34,160
show

7147
04:33:39,029 --> 04:33:36,320
the last thing is that

7148
04:33:40,230 --> 04:33:39,039
the maneuvers they did it really looked

7149
04:33:42,470 --> 04:33:40,240
like they were

7150
04:33:44,230 --> 04:33:42,480
performing something like on a screen

7151
04:33:46,949 --> 04:33:44,240
for me

7152
04:33:50,390 --> 04:33:46,959
the maneuver where the one was was uh

7153
04:33:52,551 --> 04:33:50,400
flying over the other one it was just uh

7154
04:33:53,990 --> 04:33:52,561
perfectly aligned for me to be able to

7155
04:33:56,230 --> 04:33:54,000
see what was happening

7156
04:33:58,070 --> 04:33:56,240
and then the airplanes coming straight

7157
04:34:00,150 --> 04:33:58,080
over my head from the from the other

7158
04:34:01,590 --> 04:34:00,160
side it's just

7159
04:34:03,029 --> 04:34:01,600
it just feels so

7160
04:34:04,310 --> 04:34:03,039
symmetrical

7161
04:34:05,750 --> 04:34:04,320
i don't know

7162
04:34:07,670 --> 04:34:05,760
i tried

7163
04:34:09,429 --> 04:34:07,680
i've tried many times over the years to

7164
04:34:11,830 --> 04:34:09,439
get some answers from the military here

7165
04:34:14,070 --> 04:34:11,840
in norway but they're not sharing

7166
04:34:16,470 --> 04:34:14,080
anything they're not they're not even

7167
04:34:18,869 --> 04:34:16,480
lying to me and telling me that it was

7168
04:34:20,629 --> 04:34:18,879
some kind of exercise it just there's no

7169
04:34:22,551 --> 04:34:20,639
trace of this uh

7170
04:34:23,830 --> 04:34:22,561
this incident

7171
04:34:25,269 --> 04:34:23,840
i'm convinced these were these were

7172
04:34:26,869 --> 04:34:25,279
middle airplanes there were three

7173
04:34:28,949 --> 04:34:26,879
gigantic

7174
04:34:30,629 --> 04:34:28,959
propeller driven planes and

7175
04:34:34,470 --> 04:34:30,639
doing these kind of maneuvers i don't

7176
04:34:36,629 --> 04:34:34,480
think a private entity would

7177
04:34:37,750 --> 04:34:36,639
or a civilian entity would do something

7178
04:34:40,310 --> 04:34:37,760
like that

7179
04:34:42,869 --> 04:34:40,320
actually it makes me feel that they did

7180
04:34:44,709 --> 04:34:42,879
something very risky by flying an

7181
04:34:47,269 --> 04:34:44,719
airplane into

7182
04:34:50,310 --> 04:34:47,279
this unknown object in the sky they they

7183
04:34:52,629 --> 04:34:50,320
had no idea of knowing

7184
04:34:54,949 --> 04:34:52,639
what this object was going to do

7185
04:34:56,629 --> 04:34:54,959
so doing this over a populated area

7186
04:34:58,230 --> 04:34:56,639
feels very

7187
04:35:01,029 --> 04:34:58,240
risky to me

7188
04:35:02,390 --> 04:35:01,039
but at the same time i'm i'm i'm glad i

7189
04:35:05,109 --> 04:35:02,400
got to see

7190
04:35:06,629 --> 04:35:05,119
something as extraordinary as that

7191
04:35:08,869 --> 04:35:06,639
in the end for me

7192
04:35:10,629 --> 04:35:08,879
i i was kind i was very convinced about

7193
04:35:12,789 --> 04:35:10,639
the ufo reality anyway because i had

7194
04:35:15,670 --> 04:35:12,799
been studying the history so this this

7195
04:35:20,470 --> 04:35:15,680
was just a big confirmation for me that

7196
04:35:25,830 --> 04:35:22,470
hi ryan hi everyone

7197
04:35:27,109 --> 04:35:25,840
this is alexa from the pacific northwest

7198
04:35:30,150 --> 04:35:27,119
and

7199
04:35:32,949 --> 04:35:30,160
my sighting happened when i was in 7th

7200
04:35:35,429 --> 04:35:32,959
grade in about 2000

7201
04:35:36,709 --> 04:35:35,439
this was in a town 20 miles north of

7202
04:35:39,750 --> 04:35:36,719
seattle

7203
04:35:41,590 --> 04:35:39,760
and it was much less developed back then

7204
04:35:44,869 --> 04:35:41,600
than it is now

7205
04:35:47,109 --> 04:35:44,879
but at the time my mom dad and i

7206
04:35:48,310 --> 04:35:47,119
would go on drives in the evening after

7207
04:35:50,629 --> 04:35:48,320
dinner

7208
04:35:52,390 --> 04:35:50,639
and this particular time

7209
04:35:53,750 --> 04:35:52,400
it must have been during winter break

7210
04:35:56,470 --> 04:35:53,760
from school

7211
04:36:00,551 --> 04:35:56,480
because i seem to recall this was on a

7212
04:36:01,349 --> 04:36:00,561
week night and it was dark early

7213
04:36:03,990 --> 04:36:01,359
so

7214
04:36:05,029 --> 04:36:04,000
we were driving a new route out a little

7215
04:36:07,750 --> 04:36:05,039
further

7216
04:36:10,150 --> 04:36:07,760
than usual just exploring

7217
04:36:13,189 --> 04:36:10,160
and i remember

7218
04:36:14,789 --> 04:36:13,199
the car being silent but it's possible

7219
04:36:16,629 --> 04:36:14,799
that my parents

7220
04:36:18,551 --> 04:36:16,639
were chatting up front

7221
04:36:20,551 --> 04:36:18,561
i was sitting in the back seat

7222
04:36:22,789 --> 04:36:20,561
lost in my own thoughts

7223
04:36:24,869 --> 04:36:22,799
and staring out the window into the

7224
04:36:27,830 --> 04:36:24,879
winter darkness

7225
04:36:30,789 --> 04:36:27,840
we turned down a road with trees on both

7226
04:36:33,429 --> 04:36:30,799
sides and on the right side

7227
04:36:35,029 --> 04:36:33,439
there was a low slope with some houses

7228
04:36:36,709 --> 04:36:35,039
at the top

7229
04:36:38,869 --> 04:36:36,719
i think about

7230
04:36:40,310 --> 04:36:38,879
i seem to recall or remember three

7231
04:36:42,470 --> 04:36:40,320
houses

7232
04:36:45,590 --> 04:36:42,480
uh they were built

7233
04:36:48,470 --> 04:36:45,600
into the hillside and they had those

7234
04:36:50,230 --> 04:36:48,480
decks that were built on stilts

7235
04:36:51,750 --> 04:36:50,240
because if you you know walked out your

7236
04:36:53,510 --> 04:36:51,760
back door you would just fall straight

7237
04:36:56,390 --> 04:36:53,520
down the hill so

7238
04:36:59,429 --> 04:36:57,990
i was pulled away

7239
04:37:02,150 --> 04:36:59,439
from whichever

7240
04:37:04,150 --> 04:37:02,160
middle school drama i was contemplating

7241
04:37:06,629 --> 04:37:04,160
at the time

7242
04:37:10,551 --> 04:37:06,639
with the sudden thought

7243
04:37:12,470 --> 04:37:10,561
that's a really big bug zapper

7244
04:37:15,590 --> 04:37:12,480
you know maybe we were traveling at

7245
04:37:18,230 --> 04:37:15,600
about 25 miles per hour on a semi-rural

7246
04:37:20,551 --> 04:37:18,240
road that was dark in the winter

7247
04:37:22,551 --> 04:37:20,561
but these three houses had some lights

7248
04:37:25,510 --> 04:37:22,561
on inside

7249
04:37:29,830 --> 04:37:25,520
and i can see what i am assuming is a

7250
04:37:33,429 --> 04:37:29,840
large bug zapper hanging from the roof

7251
04:37:34,551 --> 04:37:33,439
of the closest house

7252
04:37:36,310 --> 04:37:34,561
to us

7253
04:37:39,029 --> 04:37:36,320
on the top of the hill

7254
04:37:40,230 --> 04:37:39,039
like hanging from the roof right above

7255
04:37:41,349 --> 04:37:40,240
the deck

7256
04:37:42,709 --> 04:37:41,359
i could see

7257
04:37:45,590 --> 04:37:42,719
lights

7258
04:37:49,830 --> 04:37:45,600
through the trees

7259
04:37:53,990 --> 04:37:51,910
and

7260
04:37:55,750 --> 04:37:54,000
it was a large

7261
04:37:58,869 --> 04:37:55,760
rectangular

7262
04:38:01,670 --> 04:37:58,879
hanging bug zapper at least that's what

7263
04:38:02,789 --> 04:38:01,680
i thought i could see until we got

7264
04:38:05,189 --> 04:38:02,799
closer

7265
04:38:08,789 --> 04:38:05,199
and i realized that this thing is at the

7266
04:38:11,189 --> 04:38:08,799
wrong angle to be something hanging from

7267
04:38:12,390 --> 04:38:11,199
an awning or whatever

7268
04:38:15,910 --> 04:38:12,400
in fact

7269
04:38:16,949 --> 04:38:15,920
what i'm looking at is a large

7270
04:38:18,470 --> 04:38:16,959
black

7271
04:38:20,470 --> 04:38:18,480
floating

7272
04:38:24,070 --> 04:38:20,480
rectangle

7273
04:38:25,830 --> 04:38:24,080
hovering over the roof of this house

7274
04:38:27,910 --> 04:38:25,840
the best way

7275
04:38:30,629 --> 04:38:27,920
that i could describe it

7276
04:38:32,949 --> 04:38:30,639
is that if you took a standard

7277
04:38:35,029 --> 04:38:32,959
black tv remote

7278
04:38:37,269 --> 04:38:35,039
and held it up with the buttons facing

7279
04:38:40,709 --> 04:38:37,279
down

7280
04:38:43,189 --> 04:38:40,719
except in the very center of this thing

7281
04:38:46,230 --> 04:38:43,199
is a single round

7282
04:38:48,310 --> 04:38:46,240
red light a big red light

7283
04:38:50,949 --> 04:38:48,320
and in place of all the other remote

7284
04:38:54,070 --> 04:38:50,959
buttons are hundreds of smaller

7285
04:38:56,949 --> 04:38:54,080
golden white lights

7286
04:38:59,269 --> 04:38:56,959
my parents didn't see it

7287
04:39:02,470 --> 04:38:59,279
i didn't say anything

7288
04:39:05,029 --> 04:39:02,480
mainly because i had

7289
04:39:07,670 --> 04:39:05,039
this feeling like i saw something that i

7290
04:39:10,709 --> 04:39:07,680
wasn't supposed to see

7291
04:39:13,510 --> 04:39:10,719
and i was trying to convince myself

7292
04:39:15,590 --> 04:39:13,520
that i didn't see it

7293
04:39:17,910 --> 04:39:15,600
the phoenix lights were in the news only

7294
04:39:21,189 --> 04:39:17,920
a few years before and my parents

7295
04:39:25,269 --> 04:39:21,199
watched the x-files so i knew about

7296
04:39:28,230 --> 04:39:25,279
ufos but i had never heard of a hovering

7297
04:39:32,070 --> 04:39:28,240
black rectangle

7298
04:39:34,070 --> 04:39:32,080
and it wasn't until about 2017

7299
04:39:36,949 --> 04:39:34,080
when i was reading the book hudson

7300
04:39:39,910 --> 04:39:36,959
valley ufos by linda zimmerman

7301
04:39:41,590 --> 04:39:39,920
when i turned to page 51

7302
04:39:43,510 --> 04:39:41,600
that i ever

7303
04:39:47,110 --> 04:39:43,520
heard of them again and this book in

7304
04:39:49,670 --> 04:39:47,120
fact has a small chapter on unidentified

7305
04:39:51,670 --> 04:39:49,680
flying rectangles but there are only

7306
04:39:54,310 --> 04:39:51,680
maybe two or three accounts in that

7307
04:39:58,708 --> 04:39:56,708
and really this book is the only good

7308
04:40:00,868 --> 04:39:58,718
info on such a thing

7309
04:40:03,270 --> 04:40:00,878
flying rectangles that i could really

7310
04:40:05,270 --> 04:40:03,280
find

7311
04:40:08,310 --> 04:40:05,280
the main thing

7312
04:40:10,868 --> 04:40:08,320
i remember feeling during the sighting

7313
04:40:13,030 --> 04:40:10,878
was like i had walked into a room

7314
04:40:14,310 --> 04:40:13,040
saw something that i wasn't supposed to

7315
04:40:17,190 --> 04:40:14,320
see

7316
04:40:19,270 --> 04:40:17,200
and then tried to convince myself

7317
04:40:20,868 --> 04:40:19,280
i didn't see it

7318
04:40:23,430 --> 04:40:20,878
it was like i didn't

7319
04:40:26,390 --> 04:40:23,440
want to believe it

7320
04:40:28,550 --> 04:40:26,400
or felt like i should forget

7321
04:40:31,430 --> 04:40:28,560
that i did see it

7322
04:40:33,670 --> 04:40:31,440
you know kind of like pay no attention

7323
04:40:37,830 --> 04:40:33,680
to the man behind the curtain

7324
04:40:40,868 --> 04:40:38,868
i don't

7325
04:40:41,910 --> 04:40:40,878
know what it was

7326
04:40:44,628 --> 04:40:41,920
but

7327
04:40:46,390 --> 04:40:44,638
now i would probably say it had to be

7328
04:40:48,150 --> 04:40:46,400
some kind of

7329
04:40:49,910 --> 04:40:48,160
military craft

7330
04:40:53,590 --> 04:40:49,920
maybe a drone or

7331
04:40:55,430 --> 04:40:53,600
some kind of projection even but

7332
04:40:59,110 --> 04:40:55,440
why a rectangle

7333
04:41:01,030 --> 04:40:59,120
why hovering over a suburban house it

7334
04:41:03,750 --> 04:41:01,040
just seems

7335
04:41:05,830 --> 04:41:03,760
like a lot of strange choices and to

7336
04:41:08,350 --> 04:41:05,840
this day

7337
04:41:10,070 --> 04:41:08,360
all i really have are questions

7338
04:41:12,470 --> 04:41:10,080
[Music]

7339
04:41:16,230 --> 04:41:12,480
that's the end of my story thanks for

7340
04:41:21,670 --> 04:41:18,868
all right so uh my name is jake i'm

7341
04:41:23,190 --> 04:41:21,680
going to talk about a ufo encounter that

7342
04:41:26,310 --> 04:41:23,200
i had in

7343
04:41:28,628 --> 04:41:26,320
the autumn of 2015

7344
04:41:30,070 --> 04:41:28,638
this took place in a rural part of

7345
04:41:33,270 --> 04:41:30,080
central maine

7346
04:41:34,948 --> 04:41:33,280
and it happened on my family's property

7347
04:41:36,070 --> 04:41:34,958
we live on a property on the top of a

7348
04:41:37,910 --> 04:41:36,080
hill

7349
04:41:41,030 --> 04:41:37,920
the population of our town is about 4

7350
04:41:43,350 --> 04:41:41,040
000 so pretty small

7351
04:41:45,910 --> 04:41:43,360
the property is about a square acre and

7352
04:41:47,750 --> 04:41:45,920
the house is right about in the center

7353
04:41:50,070 --> 04:41:47,760
of that acre

7354
04:41:52,708 --> 04:41:50,080
the yard around it is fairly sizable on

7355
04:41:55,030 --> 04:41:52,718
three sides it's surrounded by the woods

7356
04:41:57,110 --> 04:41:55,040
and then the other side faces the road

7357
04:41:59,510 --> 04:41:57,120
i do have neighbors but not really

7358
04:42:01,430 --> 04:41:59,520
neighbors in the traditional suburban

7359
04:42:03,270 --> 04:42:01,440
sense or just

7360
04:42:05,830 --> 04:42:03,280
similarly sized properties kind of

7361
04:42:07,350 --> 04:42:05,840
dotted along a back road

7362
04:42:09,830 --> 04:42:07,360
so anyway

7363
04:42:12,310 --> 04:42:09,840
i was home alone and i took my dogs out

7364
04:42:13,670 --> 04:42:12,320
to the backyard at around 11 pm so that

7365
04:42:15,910 --> 04:42:13,680
they could go to the bathroom and i

7366
04:42:17,750 --> 04:42:15,920
could smoke a cigarette

7367
04:42:19,990 --> 04:42:17,760
this was a nightly thing at the time and

7368
04:42:22,550 --> 04:42:20,000
nothing weird had ever happened

7369
04:42:24,788 --> 04:42:22,560
we were outside for probably a few

7370
04:42:26,628 --> 04:42:24,798
minutes maybe five

7371
04:42:28,470 --> 04:42:26,638
and uh we finished up i finished my

7372
04:42:29,510 --> 04:42:28,480
cigarette my dogs finished doing their

7373
04:42:31,590 --> 04:42:29,520
business

7374
04:42:32,868 --> 04:42:31,600
and i walked them right up to the back

7375
04:42:35,350 --> 04:42:32,878
porch

7376
04:42:37,110 --> 04:42:35,360
and as soon as the dogs kind of cross

7377
04:42:40,390 --> 04:42:37,120
the threshold into the house from the

7378
04:42:42,708 --> 04:42:40,400
back porch i just hear this really weird

7379
04:42:45,030 --> 04:42:42,718
sort of humming noise

7380
04:42:46,550 --> 04:42:45,040
coming from just above coming from the

7381
04:42:48,230 --> 04:42:46,560
sky

7382
04:42:50,708 --> 04:42:48,240
it's really really hard sound to

7383
04:42:52,150 --> 04:42:50,718
describe it's sort of engine like

7384
04:42:54,788 --> 04:42:52,160
but

7385
04:42:57,510 --> 04:42:54,798
not really it was very otherworldly uh

7386
04:42:59,590 --> 04:42:57,520
i kind of have compared it to

7387
04:43:01,110 --> 04:42:59,600
the sound of like uh the boiler room

7388
04:43:04,868 --> 04:43:01,120
when the heat kicks on

7389
04:43:07,750 --> 04:43:04,878
but again that's really an approximation

7390
04:43:10,948 --> 04:43:07,760
so it was just this really weird strange

7391
04:43:13,190 --> 04:43:10,958
reverberating low frequency hum

7392
04:43:15,350 --> 04:43:13,200
it immediately got my attention as it

7393
04:43:17,110 --> 04:43:15,360
seemed to kind of fill my ears drowning

7394
04:43:19,350 --> 04:43:17,120
out all the other noises

7395
04:43:21,990 --> 04:43:19,360
i let the dogs inside they didn't seem

7396
04:43:24,070 --> 04:43:22,000
to notice as far as i could tell

7397
04:43:26,708 --> 04:43:24,080
but at the same time i wasn't exactly

7398
04:43:28,470 --> 04:43:26,718
focused on their reaction at all

7399
04:43:30,868 --> 04:43:28,480
but it did seem like they didn't they

7400
04:43:33,510 --> 04:43:30,878
didn't pay it any mind

7401
04:43:35,350 --> 04:43:33,520
so i let them in and turned around to

7402
04:43:37,190 --> 04:43:35,360
see what was making the noise and after

7403
04:43:39,110 --> 04:43:37,200
a few seconds

7404
04:43:42,070 --> 04:43:39,120
i see this

7405
04:43:44,868 --> 04:43:42,080
i guess rhombus shaped diamond like a 3d

7406
04:43:46,948 --> 04:43:44,878
diamond uh the nose end of it was longer

7407
04:43:49,270 --> 04:43:46,958
than the tail end of it

7408
04:43:52,550 --> 04:43:49,280
and it's just

7409
04:43:55,030 --> 04:43:52,560
uh it's hovering above the tree lines

7410
04:43:56,390 --> 04:43:55,040
maybe just a couple feet above the trees

7411
04:43:57,910 --> 04:43:56,400
so

7412
04:44:01,110 --> 04:43:57,920
really only

7413
04:44:04,708 --> 04:44:01,120
30 35 feet above the ground it's this

7414
04:44:05,830 --> 04:44:04,718
this really big diamond shaped and

7415
04:44:06,708 --> 04:44:05,840
it was

7416
04:44:08,628 --> 04:44:06,718
uh

7417
04:44:10,150 --> 04:44:08,638
black glass like the whole texture of

7418
04:44:12,390 --> 04:44:10,160
the thing was just this

7419
04:44:15,670 --> 04:44:12,400
seamless black glass

7420
04:44:17,990 --> 04:44:15,680
and then the edges of the rhombus were

7421
04:44:19,990 --> 04:44:18,000
all kind of lit up i almost imagine like

7422
04:44:21,670 --> 04:44:20,000
like led strip lighting

7423
04:44:23,430 --> 04:44:21,680
that's really the closest like human

7424
04:44:24,948 --> 04:44:23,440
thing i can think of

7425
04:44:26,830 --> 04:44:24,958
so it was edged out with all these

7426
04:44:31,270 --> 04:44:26,840
little kind of sparkling

7427
04:44:32,868 --> 04:44:31,280
lights and uh it just just it's hovering

7428
04:44:35,030 --> 04:44:32,878
along the tree line kind of making its

7429
04:44:37,590 --> 04:44:35,040
way across my yard

7430
04:44:38,628 --> 04:44:37,600
uh and i just remember being completely

7431
04:44:41,910 --> 04:44:38,638
frozen

7432
04:44:44,708 --> 04:44:41,920
uh both with fear and kind of awe like

7433
04:44:49,590 --> 04:44:46,550
it's moving at a low speed just sort of

7434
04:44:51,830 --> 04:44:49,600
sauntering at about 10 miles or so

7435
04:44:53,830 --> 04:44:51,840
so very very slowly just moving along

7436
04:44:55,990 --> 04:44:53,840
the yard

7437
04:45:00,628 --> 04:44:56,000
it seemed i remember thinking that it

7438
04:45:02,070 --> 04:45:00,638
was it looked very large and dense and

7439
04:45:04,310 --> 04:45:02,080
it didn't seem like something that could

7440
04:45:05,990 --> 04:45:04,320
hover like that because it was just this

7441
04:45:07,990 --> 04:45:06,000
giant thing

7442
04:45:10,788 --> 04:45:08,000
so it just glides right along the trees

7443
04:45:13,910 --> 04:45:10,798
and the other thing that i noticed

7444
04:45:15,750 --> 04:45:13,920
uh was that the trees didn't move at all

7445
04:45:17,750 --> 04:45:15,760
like like i could imagine if it was a

7446
04:45:20,150 --> 04:45:17,760
giant drone then there would have been

7447
04:45:21,590 --> 04:45:20,160
kind of like a vortex created by the uh

7448
04:45:24,070 --> 04:45:21,600
propellers that kept it up that would

7449
04:45:26,150 --> 04:45:24,080
have knocked the trees around but there

7450
04:45:28,708 --> 04:45:26,160
was nothing it was not interacting with

7451
04:45:29,990 --> 04:45:28,718
the world around it at all it was just

7452
04:45:32,868 --> 04:45:30,000
uh

7453
04:45:34,230 --> 04:45:32,878
it was like it was there but it was

7454
04:45:36,230 --> 04:45:34,240
it was doing its own thing it wasn't

7455
04:45:39,190 --> 04:45:36,240
interacting with the world around it

7456
04:45:40,788 --> 04:45:39,200
which i thought was very very strange

7457
04:45:43,030 --> 04:45:40,798
um

7458
04:45:45,350 --> 04:45:43,040
so i remember it's coming from

7459
04:45:47,430 --> 04:45:45,360
the right side of the tree line and over

7460
04:45:49,030 --> 04:45:47,440
the course of a couple seconds it

7461
04:45:51,510 --> 04:45:49,040
it kind of

7462
04:45:53,030 --> 04:45:51,520
saunters away from me at the same speed

7463
04:45:55,350 --> 04:45:53,040
to the point where i couldn't see it

7464
04:45:57,030 --> 04:45:55,360
behind the trees after a certain point

7465
04:45:59,270 --> 04:45:57,040
and i remember

7466
04:46:01,910 --> 04:45:59,280
it maybe lasted about

7467
04:46:04,708 --> 04:46:01,920
15-20 seconds of this thing

7468
04:46:06,628 --> 04:46:04,718
kind of making its presence known and i

7469
04:46:09,270 --> 04:46:06,638
remember making a very strong conscious

7470
04:46:11,670 --> 04:46:09,280
effort not to blink or look away

7471
04:46:13,510 --> 04:46:11,680
or flinch or anything because i i can

7472
04:46:15,110 --> 04:46:13,520
immediately tell how important this

7473
04:46:17,110 --> 04:46:15,120
experience was

7474
04:46:19,590 --> 04:46:17,120
and i needed to do everything in my

7475
04:46:20,868 --> 04:46:19,600
power to to kind of look at it and face

7476
04:46:23,990 --> 04:46:20,878
up to it

7477
04:46:26,150 --> 04:46:24,000
that's about as rational as it gets as i

7478
04:46:27,830 --> 04:46:26,160
was like i said i was completely frozen

7479
04:46:30,550 --> 04:46:27,840
in fear

7480
04:46:32,150 --> 04:46:30,560
i could imagine um

7481
04:46:33,510 --> 04:46:32,160
like i remember hearing on a different

7482
04:46:35,750 --> 04:46:33,520
podcast

7483
04:46:37,750 --> 04:46:35,760
uh like if you if you imagine being a

7484
04:46:39,830 --> 04:46:37,760
bear in the woods and all of a sudden

7485
04:46:41,750 --> 04:46:39,840
this giant metal bird flies down and

7486
04:46:43,270 --> 04:46:41,760
then people come out of it they they

7487
04:46:44,868 --> 04:46:43,280
shoot you with this weird dart gun and

7488
04:46:46,150 --> 04:46:44,878
then you pass out and then you wake up

7489
04:46:48,868 --> 04:46:46,160
and you have this weird thing attached

7490
04:46:50,150 --> 04:46:48,878
to your ear and you have no idea what

7491
04:46:52,150 --> 04:46:50,160
just happened to you it's just this

7492
04:46:53,350 --> 04:46:52,160
really weird thing just happened and you

7493
04:46:54,948 --> 04:46:53,360
don't have any sort of frame of

7494
04:46:55,750 --> 04:46:54,958
reference to

7495
04:46:57,270 --> 04:46:55,760
uh

7496
04:46:59,270 --> 04:46:57,280
compare it to anything that's that's

7497
04:47:00,868 --> 04:46:59,280
kind of how i felt i felt like the

7498
04:47:02,868 --> 04:47:00,878
grizzly bear being

7499
04:47:05,910 --> 04:47:02,878
being tagged by the by the researchers

7500
04:47:10,550 --> 04:47:08,948
so anyway i just did it it

7501
04:47:12,550 --> 04:47:10,560
slowly gets farther and farther away

7502
04:47:14,470 --> 04:47:12,560
from me and i can still hear it but it's

7503
04:47:17,270 --> 04:47:14,480
i can't see it anymore and the sound of

7504
04:47:19,510 --> 04:47:17,280
it is getting lighter and lighter

7505
04:47:21,670 --> 04:47:19,520
um and then after that i just i just

7506
04:47:23,590 --> 04:47:21,680
went inside i mean

7507
04:47:25,270 --> 04:47:23,600
that's what's so strange to me sometimes

7508
04:47:26,948 --> 04:47:25,280
is that

7509
04:47:28,310 --> 04:47:26,958
you you still have to

7510
04:47:31,190 --> 04:47:28,320
i mean you have a whole life to live

7511
04:47:33,110 --> 04:47:31,200
after that and this this insane thing

7512
04:47:35,270 --> 04:47:33,120
just happened to you and then but you

7513
04:47:36,390 --> 04:47:35,280
still have to you know you still have to

7514
04:47:38,788 --> 04:47:36,400
go to school you still have to go to

7515
04:47:40,868 --> 04:47:38,798
work you still have to cook dinner

7516
04:47:43,030 --> 04:47:40,878
you know i i remember just going inside

7517
04:47:44,550 --> 04:47:43,040
and and like watching tv and playing

7518
04:47:45,750 --> 04:47:44,560
video games like this thing just didn't

7519
04:47:47,670 --> 04:47:45,760
happen to me

7520
04:47:49,430 --> 04:47:47,680
and i think it took a little while for

7521
04:47:51,830 --> 04:47:49,440
for it to really set in

7522
04:47:54,708 --> 04:47:51,840
uh that i just had this

7523
04:47:56,390 --> 04:47:54,718
insane experience that makes no sense

7524
04:47:58,628 --> 04:47:56,400
and uh

7525
04:48:00,550 --> 04:47:58,638
and yeah i mean i still

7526
04:48:01,350 --> 04:48:00,560
a lot of memories are fuzzy for me but

7527
04:48:03,830 --> 04:48:01,360
that

7528
04:48:05,670 --> 04:48:03,840
is forever burned into my brain the

7529
04:48:06,470 --> 04:48:05,680
exact way it happened was just how it

7530
04:48:08,948 --> 04:48:06,480
looked

7531
04:48:10,070 --> 04:48:08,958
how it sounded and how it moved

7532
04:48:12,390 --> 04:48:10,080
um

7533
04:48:14,708 --> 04:48:12,400
i don't i don't really tell very many

7534
04:48:16,310 --> 04:48:14,718
people in my life i've told friends and

7535
04:48:17,910 --> 04:48:16,320
family before

7536
04:48:20,628 --> 04:48:17,920
and uh

7537
04:48:22,788 --> 04:48:20,638
luckily nobody thinks i'm uh crazy but i

7538
04:48:25,030 --> 04:48:22,798
do get the feeling that

7539
04:48:26,708 --> 04:48:25,040
people are like yeah we we believe that

7540
04:48:27,990 --> 04:48:26,718
you saw something

7541
04:48:30,390 --> 04:48:28,000
they don't know if it's an alien

7542
04:48:32,390 --> 04:48:30,400
spacecraft or what whatever the hell it

7543
04:48:34,470 --> 04:48:32,400
was or some sort of inter-dimensional

7544
04:48:36,788 --> 04:48:34,480
spacecraft but they they think that i

7545
04:48:39,510 --> 04:48:36,798
saw something because i'm so

7546
04:48:42,550 --> 04:48:39,520
uh it was so real for me and i wouldn't

7547
04:48:44,150 --> 04:48:42,560
really lie about that sort of thing

7548
04:48:46,470 --> 04:48:44,160
the other thing is that

7549
04:48:49,190 --> 04:48:46,480
i don't have any history of

7550
04:48:51,350 --> 04:48:49,200
schizophrenia in my family

7551
04:48:54,150 --> 04:48:51,360
i don't have any history of like

7552
04:48:55,590 --> 04:48:54,160
grand mal seizures or epilepsy or

7553
04:48:56,628 --> 04:48:55,600
anything

7554
04:48:58,948 --> 04:48:56,638
so

7555
04:49:01,910 --> 04:48:58,958
i don't really i don't have a

7556
04:49:04,470 --> 04:49:01,920
physiological explanation for it or

7557
04:49:08,070 --> 04:49:04,480
really a mental explanation for it and

7558
04:49:11,510 --> 04:49:08,080
and nothing has ever happened since i

7559
04:49:12,948 --> 04:49:11,520
still live at the same location

7560
04:49:15,590 --> 04:49:12,958
and

7561
04:49:17,750 --> 04:49:15,600
i haven't seen anything i i definitely

7562
04:49:20,628 --> 04:49:17,760
keep my eye out for it but

7563
04:49:22,628 --> 04:49:20,638
it hasn't returned

7564
04:49:24,628 --> 04:49:22,638
it's just it's just this really weird

7565
04:49:27,670 --> 04:49:24,638
thing that happened that lasted

7566
04:49:29,510 --> 04:49:27,680
like 20 seconds uh just this thing came

7567
04:49:31,670 --> 04:49:29,520
out of nowhere and said hello and then

7568
04:49:34,628 --> 04:49:31,680
just took off and

7569
04:49:37,190 --> 04:49:34,638
i have no explanation i've been racking

7570
04:49:40,150 --> 04:49:37,200
my brain ever since i go on the

7571
04:49:41,830 --> 04:49:40,160
all the ufo subreddits and i've read a

7572
04:49:43,670 --> 04:49:41,840
couple books about it i really like what

7573
04:49:45,110 --> 04:49:43,680
jacques valet has to say

7574
04:49:48,310 --> 04:49:45,120
about the whole

7575
04:49:50,070 --> 04:49:48,320
uh alien experience or ufo experience

7576
04:49:52,070 --> 04:49:50,080
and i don't even know if it was aliens

7577
04:49:55,750 --> 04:49:52,080
or if it was some

7578
04:49:57,190 --> 04:49:55,760
insanely exotic military spacecraft

7579
04:49:59,990 --> 04:49:57,200
uh if it was

7580
04:50:03,670 --> 04:50:00,000
one of ours then we are

7581
04:50:05,990 --> 04:50:03,680
way more advanced than we know

7582
04:50:08,948 --> 04:50:06,000
so so i don't know but

7583
04:50:10,550 --> 04:50:08,958
yeah that's my story and uh hope to hear

7584
04:50:13,350 --> 04:50:10,560
it on the podcast

7585
04:50:17,590 --> 04:50:15,190
my name is nicole morock and i'm a

7586
04:50:20,150 --> 04:50:17,600
meteorologist writer and the producer

7587
04:50:22,150 --> 04:50:20,160
and host of the peep podcast which

7588
04:50:24,788 --> 04:50:22,160
explores how scientists and researchers

7589
04:50:27,190 --> 04:50:24,798
study the paranormal and relates that to

7590
04:50:29,110 --> 04:50:27,200
people who experience the paranormal

7591
04:50:31,590 --> 04:50:29,120
you could say that my sighting is part

7592
04:50:32,868 --> 04:50:31,600
of the reason i have a podcast now and

7593
04:50:34,788 --> 04:50:32,878
somewhere in the skies has been an

7594
04:50:36,470 --> 04:50:34,798
inspiration to me so i'm excited to

7595
04:50:37,990 --> 04:50:36,480
share my story with you and your

7596
04:50:40,868 --> 04:50:38,000
listeners

7597
04:50:43,510 --> 04:50:40,878
this happened in november of 1997 just

7598
04:50:46,230 --> 04:50:43,520
south of falls lake and north of raleigh

7599
04:50:48,550 --> 04:50:46,240
north carolina i was driving home from

7600
04:50:50,310 --> 04:50:48,560
work down highway 50 which is a two-lane

7601
04:50:51,510 --> 04:50:50,320
highway that goes over the lake and

7602
04:50:53,510 --> 04:50:51,520
through the woods

7603
04:50:56,550 --> 04:50:53,520
it was just a little after 5 pm and

7604
04:50:58,390 --> 04:50:56,560
still light out but approaching dusk

7605
04:51:00,390 --> 04:50:58,400
at that time i was about a year out of

7606
04:51:01,990 --> 04:51:00,400
college with a communication degree

7607
04:51:03,830 --> 04:51:02,000
and hadn't gone back to school for my

7608
04:51:06,070 --> 04:51:03,840
meteorology degree yet

7609
04:51:09,110 --> 04:51:06,080
i was an editor and office manager for a

7610
04:51:11,750 --> 04:51:09,120
small wedding video company that

7611
04:51:13,270 --> 04:51:11,760
was located just north of the lake back

7612
04:51:15,030 --> 04:51:13,280
then there was hardly anything on that

7613
04:51:16,628 --> 04:51:15,040
road because development hadn't spread

7614
04:51:18,550 --> 04:51:16,638
that far north yet

7615
04:51:21,270 --> 04:51:18,560
i was approaching a rare intersection

7616
04:51:22,550 --> 04:51:21,280
with a stoplight which was and still is

7617
04:51:24,150 --> 04:51:22,560
in a clearing

7618
04:51:26,628 --> 04:51:24,160
and i was heading south

7619
04:51:28,470 --> 04:51:26,638
to my left or east

7620
04:51:29,990 --> 04:51:28,480
on the north side of the intersection

7621
04:51:31,510 --> 04:51:30,000
was a gas station

7622
04:51:33,510 --> 04:51:31,520
step back a bit from the road and the

7623
04:51:35,990 --> 04:51:33,520
tree line was at least 50 feet maybe

7624
04:51:37,510 --> 04:51:36,000
more behind that

7625
04:51:39,350 --> 04:51:37,520
there was a man driving the vehicle in

7626
04:51:41,510 --> 04:51:39,360
front of me and i was driving my little

7627
04:51:43,590 --> 04:51:41,520
red isuzu pickup

7628
04:51:45,430 --> 04:51:43,600
the light was red so we were slowing to

7629
04:51:47,190 --> 04:51:45,440
a stop

7630
04:51:48,708 --> 04:51:47,200
something made me look back to my left

7631
04:51:50,230 --> 04:51:48,718
out my side window

7632
04:51:52,150 --> 04:51:50,240
it might have been motion in my side

7633
04:51:53,990 --> 04:51:52,160
view mirror but i'm not sure

7634
04:51:56,948 --> 04:51:54,000
i looked over my shoulder as i was

7635
04:51:57,990 --> 04:51:56,958
stopping the pickup and i saw two round

7636
04:52:00,708 --> 04:51:58,000
balls

7637
04:52:02,150 --> 04:52:00,718
these days i'd call them orbs of light

7638
04:52:05,270 --> 04:52:02,160
but at that time i didn't really know

7639
04:52:08,310 --> 04:52:05,280
that word so i just called them balls

7640
04:52:09,670 --> 04:52:08,320
they were back to the northeast

7641
04:52:11,430 --> 04:52:09,680
in height they were close to the top of

7642
04:52:12,868 --> 04:52:11,440
the tall pine trees we have all over

7643
04:52:14,628 --> 04:52:12,878
north carolina

7644
04:52:17,670 --> 04:52:14,638
they look to be about the size of beach

7645
04:52:20,628 --> 04:52:17,680
balls bigger than a basketball for sure

7646
04:52:22,788 --> 04:52:20,638
i don't recall any solid form just two

7647
04:52:25,030 --> 04:52:22,798
lights and i have to admit all these

7648
04:52:27,270 --> 04:52:25,040
years later i'm a little fuzzy on the

7649
04:52:29,430 --> 04:52:27,280
exact color that they started as but i

7650
04:52:31,270 --> 04:52:29,440
think it was red

7651
04:52:33,350 --> 04:52:31,280
they came from back there and flew

7652
04:52:34,470 --> 04:52:33,360
toward the center of the intersection in

7653
04:52:36,230 --> 04:52:34,480
front of me

7654
04:52:38,390 --> 04:52:36,240
as they did it was like they were

7655
04:52:40,948 --> 04:52:38,400
playing follow the leader they stayed

7656
04:52:42,948 --> 04:52:40,958
about four feet apart the whole time

7657
04:52:45,670 --> 04:52:42,958
and the one in front changed color when

7658
04:52:47,510 --> 04:52:45,680
it was parallel to the side of my truck

7659
04:52:49,990 --> 04:52:47,520
i think it was a yellow just a half

7660
04:52:52,070 --> 04:52:50,000
second later you know quickly but

7661
04:52:54,628 --> 04:52:52,080
definitely delayed the one behind it

7662
04:52:56,470 --> 04:52:54,638
changed to the same color

7663
04:52:58,788 --> 04:52:56,480
when they got over the intersection they

7664
04:53:00,948 --> 04:52:58,798
made a sharp turn and went back to my

7665
04:53:02,550 --> 04:53:00,958
right or the northwest and headed back

7666
04:53:04,150 --> 04:53:02,560
toward the trees on that side of the

7667
04:53:06,150 --> 04:53:04,160
clearing

7668
04:53:08,070 --> 04:53:06,160
it all seemed to happen in slow motion

7669
04:53:09,590 --> 04:53:08,080
and i remember wondering if the guy in

7670
04:53:12,230 --> 04:53:09,600
front of me was seeing the same thing

7671
04:53:14,070 --> 04:53:12,240
like he had to right

7672
04:53:16,550 --> 04:53:14,080
the light turned green and he started

7673
04:53:18,708 --> 04:53:16,560
driving and so did i

7674
04:53:20,788 --> 04:53:18,718
i don't recall seeing them appear or

7675
04:53:23,750 --> 04:53:20,798
disappear i just watched them as they

7676
04:53:25,590 --> 04:53:23,760
made this v-shape in the sky above me

7677
04:53:27,510 --> 04:53:25,600
it seemed like they got lower as they

7678
04:53:28,628 --> 04:53:27,520
approached the road and higher as they

7679
04:53:30,550 --> 04:53:28,638
left

7680
04:53:31,910 --> 04:53:30,560
i didn't have to strain my neck to look

7681
04:53:33,270 --> 04:53:31,920
up through the windshield to see them in

7682
04:53:35,590 --> 04:53:33,280
front of me

7683
04:53:38,390 --> 04:53:35,600
it was obviously weird but i wasn't

7684
04:53:41,350 --> 04:53:38,400
scared just really curious

7685
04:53:43,190 --> 04:53:41,360
like what on earth did i just see

7686
04:53:45,510 --> 04:53:43,200
i grew up hearing stories of others in

7687
04:53:47,670 --> 04:53:45,520
my family having seen ufos so maybe

7688
04:53:49,270 --> 04:53:47,680
that's why i didn't freak out i spent

7689
04:53:51,590 --> 04:53:49,280
the rest of the drive home which was

7690
04:53:53,990 --> 04:53:51,600
about seven minutes into raleigh

7691
04:53:56,550 --> 04:53:54,000
going over all of it in my head

7692
04:53:59,270 --> 04:53:56,560
there were there was nothing attached to

7693
04:54:01,750 --> 04:53:59,280
the lights if it had been a helicopter

7694
04:54:03,590 --> 04:54:01,760
unless it was completely invisible

7695
04:54:05,350 --> 04:54:03,600
i would have seen it and i'm pretty sure

7696
04:54:06,550 --> 04:54:05,360
we still don't have that kind of

7697
04:54:07,830 --> 04:54:06,560
technology

7698
04:54:09,190 --> 04:54:07,840
at the time i still lived with my

7699
04:54:10,868 --> 04:54:09,200
parents and i couldn't wait to tell my

7700
04:54:12,390 --> 04:54:10,878
dad when i got home because i was sure

7701
04:54:14,550 --> 04:54:12,400
he'd believe me

7702
04:54:17,030 --> 04:54:14,560
he did but of course he couldn't tell me

7703
04:54:18,868 --> 04:54:17,040
what it was either they reminded me of

7704
04:54:20,868 --> 04:54:18,878
the drones from star wars even though

7705
04:54:23,350 --> 04:54:20,878
there's not technically anything like

7706
04:54:25,350 --> 04:54:23,360
that in star wars i'm not convinced they

7707
04:54:28,390 --> 04:54:25,360
weren't terrestrial but as a

7708
04:54:30,550 --> 04:54:28,400
meteorologist i am 100 sure it wasn't

7709
04:54:33,430 --> 04:54:30,560
any type of weather phenomenon

7710
04:54:35,030 --> 04:54:33,440
or swamp gas or whatever

7711
04:54:37,190 --> 04:54:35,040
these seem to be under intelligent

7712
04:54:40,310 --> 04:54:37,200
control and their path made the shape of

7713
04:54:42,070 --> 04:54:40,320
a v over the intersection

7714
04:54:44,948 --> 04:54:42,080
i've met quite a few meteorologists over

7715
04:54:46,628 --> 04:54:44,958
the year that work in the dod army and

7716
04:54:49,110 --> 04:54:46,638
air force and some of them have pretty

7717
04:54:51,510 --> 04:54:49,120
high clearances

7718
04:54:54,390 --> 04:54:51,520
i've asked each one

7719
04:54:57,750 --> 04:54:54,400
if they have ever heard or seen anything

7720
04:54:59,270 --> 04:54:57,760
like that and all of them have said no

7721
04:55:01,270 --> 04:54:59,280
and even the ones with the higher

7722
04:55:03,590 --> 04:55:01,280
clearances have had the look on their

7723
04:55:06,628 --> 04:55:03,600
face that said they were not lying so

7724
04:55:08,628 --> 04:55:06,638
even if they could have said yes

7725
04:55:10,070 --> 04:55:08,638
but were not supposed to

7726
04:55:13,910 --> 04:55:10,080
and still said no

7727
04:55:17,110 --> 04:55:13,920
their faces said no i've never seen

7728
04:55:18,628 --> 04:55:17,120
anything like that and i believe them

7729
04:55:20,550 --> 04:55:18,638
i've always been fascinated with the

7730
04:55:23,190 --> 04:55:20,560
unknown and this experience just

7731
04:55:25,430 --> 04:55:23,200
cemented my interest in uap i'm not

7732
04:55:27,590 --> 04:55:25,440
quite obsessed but i watch as many

7733
04:55:30,390 --> 04:55:27,600
documentaries as i can and listen to

7734
04:55:33,670 --> 04:55:30,400
your podcast and others hoping to hear

7735
04:55:36,070 --> 04:55:33,680
someone describe something similar

7736
04:55:37,590 --> 04:55:36,080
so far in all the years i've been

7737
04:55:39,030 --> 04:55:37,600
waiting

7738
04:55:40,788 --> 04:55:39,040
nobody has

7739
04:55:42,868 --> 04:55:40,798
maybe someone out there is waiting to

7740
04:55:44,470 --> 04:55:42,878
hear my story so they can relate to it

7741
04:55:46,150 --> 04:55:44,480
too

7742
04:55:48,868 --> 04:55:46,160
anyway thanks so much for doing what you

7743
04:55:50,550 --> 04:55:48,878
do you do a great job of covering this

7744
04:55:52,948 --> 04:55:50,560
topic from a grounded balanced

7745
04:55:55,590 --> 04:55:52,958
perspective and you keep the focus on

7746
04:55:57,590 --> 04:55:55,600
how it affects the experiencers and that

7747
04:56:01,750 --> 04:55:57,600
is so important

7748
04:56:04,708 --> 04:56:02,948
hey ryan

7749
04:56:06,708 --> 04:56:04,718
uh thanks for the opportunity to share

7750
04:56:08,708 --> 04:56:06,718
this brief but i hope

7751
04:56:10,230 --> 04:56:08,718
slightly different

7752
04:56:11,750 --> 04:56:10,240
sighting story

7753
04:56:13,510 --> 04:56:11,760
my name is mark

7754
04:56:15,830 --> 04:56:13,520
and this

7755
04:56:17,510 --> 04:56:15,840
happened in 1991

7756
04:56:19,270 --> 04:56:17,520
i can't believe it's been nearly 30

7757
04:56:21,670 --> 04:56:19,280
years but

7758
04:56:23,270 --> 04:56:21,680
it has and i still think about it quite

7759
04:56:25,030 --> 04:56:23,280
a bit

7760
04:56:25,830 --> 04:56:25,040
so at the time

7761
04:56:28,788 --> 04:56:25,840
my

7762
04:56:29,670 --> 04:56:28,798
buddy todd and i were in our early 20s

7763
04:56:31,990 --> 04:56:29,680
and

7764
04:56:34,788 --> 04:56:32,000
he had become part owner of a small boat

7765
04:56:37,830 --> 04:56:34,798
that was docked in lorraine ohio which

7766
04:56:40,310 --> 04:56:37,840
is about 30 miles west of cleveland on

7767
04:56:42,070 --> 04:56:40,320
lake erie and one evening that summer

7768
04:56:44,070 --> 04:56:42,080
the two of us took the boat out of the

7769
04:56:45,750 --> 04:56:44,080
marina

7770
04:56:47,350 --> 04:56:45,760
and we were just cruising around

7771
04:56:49,190 --> 04:56:47,360
listening to music

7772
04:56:51,990 --> 04:56:49,200
stopping to fish on occasion if we felt

7773
04:56:53,990 --> 04:56:52,000
like it and basically just enjoying a

7774
04:56:55,830 --> 04:56:54,000
summer night on the water

7775
04:56:57,750 --> 04:56:55,840
and it was super calm that night there

7776
04:57:00,470 --> 04:56:57,760
were no waves and

7777
04:57:01,430 --> 04:57:00,480
if there was any wind it was minimal

7778
04:57:05,510 --> 04:57:01,440
but it

7779
04:57:06,948 --> 04:57:05,520
was probably about 10 pm i was dark

7780
04:57:09,030 --> 04:57:06,958
obviously

7781
04:57:10,868 --> 04:57:09,040
um and we were sitting about half a mile

7782
04:57:12,310 --> 04:57:10,878
offshore

7783
04:57:13,510 --> 04:57:12,320
the motor was cut and motor wasn't

7784
04:57:15,190 --> 04:57:13,520
running

7785
04:57:19,030 --> 04:57:15,200
we were in the back of the boat

7786
04:57:21,670 --> 04:57:19,040
just chilling facing east and

7787
04:57:23,350 --> 04:57:21,680
we saw this small white light

7788
04:57:25,910 --> 04:57:23,360
maybe

7789
04:57:27,590 --> 04:57:25,920
50 yards to the southeast i'm

7790
04:57:30,708 --> 04:57:27,600
guesstimating

7791
04:57:31,750 --> 04:57:30,718
but that seems to be pretty accurate

7792
04:57:33,270 --> 04:57:31,760
and

7793
04:57:34,868 --> 04:57:33,280
the light was

7794
04:57:37,270 --> 04:57:34,878
looked to be just off the surface of the

7795
04:57:39,110 --> 04:57:37,280
water it was kind of hard to tell at

7796
04:57:41,590 --> 04:57:39,120
that first sighting

7797
04:57:43,830 --> 04:57:41,600
um and it didn't look very big

7798
04:57:45,510 --> 04:57:43,840
but it was blinking on and off

7799
04:57:48,708 --> 04:57:45,520
rhythmically

7800
04:57:50,628 --> 04:57:48,718
and very consistently maybe

7801
04:57:51,670 --> 04:57:50,638
in one and a half second increments so

7802
04:57:53,430 --> 04:57:51,680
it was like

7803
04:57:56,788 --> 04:57:53,440
blank

7804
04:57:58,708 --> 04:57:56,798
blink like that

7805
04:58:00,708 --> 04:57:58,718
and it looked to be coming towards us

7806
04:58:04,310 --> 04:58:00,718
and as we watched it

7807
04:58:06,470 --> 04:58:04,320
it was definitely coming closer to us

7808
04:58:09,910 --> 04:58:06,480
and we could tell it wasn't very big at

7809
04:58:11,750 --> 04:58:09,920
all and it was making no noise and we're

7810
04:58:13,590 --> 04:58:11,760
both watching it and commenting you know

7811
04:58:15,350 --> 04:58:13,600
the the usual things you would say when

7812
04:58:17,190 --> 04:58:15,360
you're looking at something that you

7813
04:58:18,948 --> 04:58:17,200
don't understand is you know like what

7814
04:58:22,948 --> 04:58:18,958
the hell is this thing and we're

7815
04:58:24,788 --> 04:58:22,958
wondering if maybe it was a firefly or

7816
04:58:25,830 --> 04:58:24,798
some kind of insect

7817
04:58:29,190 --> 04:58:25,840
but

7818
04:58:30,230 --> 04:58:29,200
the light when it was on was was a pure

7819
04:58:33,190 --> 04:58:30,240
white

7820
04:58:34,788 --> 04:58:33,200
and it was spherical and

7821
04:58:36,868 --> 04:58:34,798
when it wasn't on

7822
04:58:39,350 --> 04:58:36,878
in between blanks you couldn't see any

7823
04:58:40,390 --> 04:58:39,360
outline or any shape so it was very hard

7824
04:58:43,270 --> 04:58:40,400
to tell

7825
04:58:45,190 --> 04:58:43,280
what this thing actually looked like

7826
04:58:48,550 --> 04:58:45,200
if it had a shape at all

7827
04:58:51,110 --> 04:58:48,560
um but it continued towards us on a

7828
04:58:52,868 --> 04:58:51,120
perfectly straight line

7829
04:58:54,830 --> 04:58:52,878
and it wasn't changing altitude it

7830
04:58:57,910 --> 04:58:54,840
wasn't changing its height

7831
04:58:59,910 --> 04:58:57,920
whatsoever and it was probably three

7832
04:59:02,470 --> 04:58:59,920
feet above the water

7833
04:59:04,230 --> 04:59:02,480
so as we got closer

7834
04:59:06,070 --> 04:59:04,240
we were watching it intently we're

7835
04:59:07,510 --> 04:59:06,080
standing up trying to make sense of this

7836
04:59:09,990 --> 04:59:07,520
thing coming at us

7837
04:59:11,430 --> 04:59:10,000
and it got probably within 10 feet of

7838
04:59:13,190 --> 04:59:11,440
the stern of the boat

7839
04:59:15,190 --> 04:59:13,200
as it passed by

7840
04:59:17,430 --> 04:59:15,200
and you could tell that it was

7841
04:59:18,788 --> 04:59:17,440
maybe the size of a tennis ball when it

7842
04:59:20,390 --> 04:59:18,798
was lit

7843
04:59:22,830 --> 04:59:20,400
the the

7844
04:59:25,910 --> 04:59:22,840
the lit orb was the size of a tennis

7845
04:59:28,948 --> 04:59:25,920
ball um and again no sound we kept

7846
04:59:29,910 --> 04:59:28,958
listening for sound it made no sound

7847
04:59:31,510 --> 04:59:29,920
and

7848
04:59:33,190 --> 04:59:31,520
watching for any deviation in this

7849
04:59:35,110 --> 04:59:33,200
flight path that it was on but it never

7850
04:59:38,150 --> 04:59:35,120
deviated at all

7851
04:59:39,430 --> 04:59:38,160
and we just continued to watch it

7852
04:59:41,110 --> 04:59:39,440
wide-eyed

7853
04:59:42,868 --> 04:59:41,120
as it flew

7854
04:59:44,948 --> 04:59:42,878
northwest

7855
04:59:46,230 --> 04:59:44,958
on the same line until it was out of

7856
04:59:48,868 --> 04:59:46,240
sight

7857
04:59:51,670 --> 04:59:48,878
over the horizon in the dark

7858
04:59:54,230 --> 04:59:51,680
and to this day i have no clue

7859
04:59:55,990 --> 04:59:54,240
what this thing was um todd and i are

7860
04:59:58,150 --> 04:59:56,000
still friends we still keep in touch

7861
04:59:59,350 --> 04:59:58,160
regularly and

7862
05:00:01,830 --> 04:59:59,360
um

7863
05:00:03,670 --> 05:00:01,840
we will revisit the event on occasion

7864
05:00:05,910 --> 05:00:03,680
and neither of us have any more clarity

7865
05:00:08,070 --> 05:00:05,920
now than we did back then and we just

7866
05:00:09,910 --> 05:00:08,080
shake our heads over it i

7867
05:00:12,230 --> 05:00:09,920
have no clue um

7868
05:00:13,510 --> 05:00:12,240
and i'm i've always been interested in

7869
05:00:14,708 --> 05:00:13,520
the ufo

7870
05:00:17,190 --> 05:00:14,718
topic

7871
05:00:19,590 --> 05:00:17,200
um and i've kept up on

7872
05:00:20,470 --> 05:00:19,600
incredible sighting reports and whatnot

7873
05:00:22,948 --> 05:00:20,480
and

7874
05:00:24,150 --> 05:00:22,958
i have yet to come across a similar

7875
05:00:26,070 --> 05:00:24,160
sighting

7876
05:00:28,708 --> 05:00:26,080
and would love to know if anybody

7877
05:00:30,390 --> 05:00:28,718
listening out there has seen something

7878
05:00:33,270 --> 05:00:30,400
similar especially

7879
05:00:34,708 --> 05:00:33,280
in the great lakes area or lake erie in

7880
05:00:36,150 --> 05:00:34,718
particular

7881
05:00:38,310 --> 05:00:36,160
if you have please get in touch with

7882
05:00:39,590 --> 05:00:38,320
ryan i would love to talk to you

7883
05:00:41,750 --> 05:00:39,600
um

7884
05:00:43,190 --> 05:00:41,760
but the

7885
05:00:46,230 --> 05:00:43,200
the event had

7886
05:00:49,270 --> 05:00:46,240
a profound effect

7887
05:00:51,590 --> 05:00:49,280
like i said i still think about it today

7888
05:00:53,430 --> 05:00:51,600
i still wonder what the heck this thing

7889
05:00:54,708 --> 05:00:53,440
was

7890
05:00:56,550 --> 05:00:54,718
and

7891
05:00:58,230 --> 05:00:56,560
i don't know that that's really the gist

7892
05:01:00,628 --> 05:00:58,240
of it so

7893
05:01:04,310 --> 05:01:00,638
thank you for the opportunity to share

7894
05:01:09,510 --> 05:01:06,628
hi my name is kyle

7895
05:01:13,510 --> 05:01:09,520
and this is my sighting

7896
05:01:16,150 --> 05:01:13,520
in 2003 i was living in the town of

7897
05:01:18,868 --> 05:01:16,160
belvedere illinois and my brother and i

7898
05:01:21,590 --> 05:01:18,878
were playing um horse

7899
05:01:22,628 --> 05:01:21,600
in our driveway and we had a

7900
05:01:25,190 --> 05:01:22,638
hoop

7901
05:01:26,230 --> 05:01:25,200
that was on our garage and it was facing

7902
05:01:28,390 --> 05:01:26,240
west

7903
05:01:30,390 --> 05:01:28,400
and my brother had tossed the ball in

7904
05:01:31,830 --> 05:01:30,400
and bounced off the hoop

7905
05:01:33,910 --> 05:01:31,840
and i go

7906
05:01:36,550 --> 05:01:33,920
to follow the hoop with my eyes as it

7907
05:01:37,510 --> 05:01:36,560
goes into the trees and i see this

7908
05:01:40,948 --> 05:01:37,520
dark

7909
05:01:43,430 --> 05:01:40,958
charcoal colored triangular shape

7910
05:01:46,310 --> 05:01:43,440
and it was probably

7911
05:01:49,750 --> 05:01:46,320
2000 to 2500 feet in the air

7912
05:01:52,390 --> 05:01:49,760
almost almost directly above and to the

7913
05:01:55,270 --> 05:01:52,400
front or to the west of us

7914
05:01:58,070 --> 05:01:55,280
and it didn't have any like solid edges

7915
05:02:00,948 --> 05:01:58,080
it was all rounded on the sides

7916
05:02:04,150 --> 05:02:00,958
and the back and in the back in a

7917
05:02:05,030 --> 05:02:04,160
recessed section there were

7918
05:02:06,390 --> 05:02:05,040
two

7919
05:02:08,070 --> 05:02:06,400
like circle

7920
05:02:10,150 --> 05:02:08,080
nozzles on each side

7921
05:02:11,110 --> 05:02:10,160
and a

7922
05:02:13,590 --> 05:02:11,120
longer

7923
05:02:17,030 --> 05:02:13,600
uh elongated oval in the center but it

7924
05:02:20,788 --> 05:02:17,040
was like recessed inside of the

7925
05:02:22,948 --> 05:02:20,798
that flat that edge of the triangle

7926
05:02:24,150 --> 05:02:22,958
and i looked at my brother and i was

7927
05:02:26,310 --> 05:02:24,160
like

7928
05:02:29,030 --> 05:02:26,320
what's that at the time i was really

7929
05:02:30,390 --> 05:02:29,040
interested in you know our modern jets

7930
05:02:32,868 --> 05:02:30,400
and uh

7931
05:02:35,030 --> 05:02:32,878
mostly world war ii aircraft

7932
05:02:37,830 --> 05:02:35,040
and i was like i've i've never seen

7933
05:02:39,030 --> 05:02:37,840
anything like that and uh that weekend

7934
05:02:40,868 --> 05:02:39,040
we were supposed to go to our

7935
05:02:43,830 --> 05:02:40,878
grandparents house

7936
05:02:46,150 --> 05:02:43,840
and um we did

7937
05:02:48,868 --> 05:02:46,160
and i we talked to my my step

7938
05:02:50,390 --> 05:02:48,878
grandfather about it and we spent two

7939
05:02:51,990 --> 05:02:50,400
hours on the internet trying to find

7940
05:02:53,510 --> 05:02:52,000
something that matched our description

7941
05:02:55,830 --> 05:02:53,520
and

7942
05:02:56,868 --> 05:02:55,840
we never found it

7943
05:02:59,830 --> 05:02:56,878
and

7944
05:03:01,670 --> 05:02:59,840
shortly after that i started having

7945
05:03:03,110 --> 05:03:01,680
bouts of

7946
05:03:05,350 --> 05:03:03,120
um

7947
05:03:06,830 --> 05:03:05,360
sleep paralysis i would wake up in the

7948
05:03:10,150 --> 05:03:06,840
middle of the night

7949
05:03:12,708 --> 05:03:10,160
and i would be frozen

7950
05:03:14,230 --> 05:03:12,718
and i couldn't move my fingers or my

7951
05:03:16,390 --> 05:03:14,240
toes

7952
05:03:18,150 --> 05:03:16,400
and i couldn't scream

7953
05:03:20,070 --> 05:03:18,160
and

7954
05:03:21,510 --> 05:03:20,080
it was

7955
05:03:24,070 --> 05:03:21,520
really hard

7956
05:03:26,390 --> 05:03:24,080
and i didn't know what to do about it

7957
05:03:29,110 --> 05:03:26,400
um i continued having

7958
05:03:31,590 --> 05:03:29,120
the sleep paralysis for years after that

7959
05:03:34,230 --> 05:03:31,600
and i eventually just

7960
05:03:37,270 --> 05:03:34,240
figured out that i had to relax and

7961
05:03:38,390 --> 05:03:37,280
breathe and close my eyes and focus on

7962
05:03:39,910 --> 05:03:38,400
moving

7963
05:03:45,190 --> 05:03:39,920
things that help

7964
05:03:49,350 --> 05:03:46,948
shortly after

7965
05:03:52,550 --> 05:03:49,360
the first incident i was getting off the

7966
05:03:53,910 --> 05:03:52,560
bus with my friend nick

7967
05:03:55,750 --> 05:03:53,920
and

7968
05:03:59,110 --> 05:03:55,760
as we got off the bus we saw these two

7969
05:04:01,750 --> 05:03:59,120
jets chase something that was smoldering

7970
05:04:04,230 --> 05:04:01,760
in the air and we asked our

7971
05:04:06,470 --> 05:04:04,240
reading teacher the next day who was a

7972
05:04:07,670 --> 05:04:06,480
air force reservist

7973
05:04:09,350 --> 05:04:07,680
and she said that she didn't know

7974
05:04:11,670 --> 05:04:09,360
anything about it she'd ask and we of

7975
05:04:12,948 --> 05:04:11,680
course never heard anything

7976
05:04:14,230 --> 05:04:12,958
but

7977
05:04:16,628 --> 05:04:14,240
um

7978
05:04:19,590 --> 05:04:16,638
after that

7979
05:04:23,030 --> 05:04:19,600
i started having real

7980
05:04:25,270 --> 05:04:23,040
vivid uh lucid dreams and uh that's

7981
05:04:28,628 --> 05:04:25,280
something i still have to this day i i

7982
05:04:30,788 --> 05:04:28,638
don't until recently i didn't correlate

7983
05:04:32,628 --> 05:04:30,798
these incidents

7984
05:04:35,590 --> 05:04:32,638
and put them together

7985
05:04:36,708 --> 05:04:35,600
but it seems that it's something that

7986
05:04:38,390 --> 05:04:36,718
happens

7987
05:04:39,270 --> 05:04:38,400
to people who witness

7988
05:04:41,510 --> 05:04:39,280
the

7989
05:04:43,110 --> 05:04:41,520
dark triangles and

7990
05:04:45,460 --> 05:04:43,120
yeah that's

7991
05:04:48,470 --> 05:04:45,470
that's what happened to me

7992
05:04:51,430 --> 05:04:48,480
[Music]

7993
05:04:55,190 --> 05:04:51,440
hi my name is jake um

7994
05:04:56,868 --> 05:04:55,200
on the 9th of september 2020

7995
05:04:59,110 --> 05:04:56,878
which was a sunday

7996
05:05:02,948 --> 05:04:59,120
my best friend and i who is here with me

7997
05:05:05,430 --> 05:05:02,958
hi my name is bruce um saw a boomerang

7998
05:05:08,470 --> 05:05:05,440
shaped craft

7999
05:05:10,390 --> 05:05:08,480
ufo uap whatever you want to call it fly

8000
05:05:13,510 --> 05:05:10,400
over our house

8001
05:05:15,510 --> 05:05:13,520
in the middle of downtown plant city

8002
05:05:17,910 --> 05:05:15,520
if you don't know where that is

8003
05:05:20,470 --> 05:05:17,920
that is uh

8004
05:05:22,310 --> 05:05:20,480
oh it's um it's a small town east of

8005
05:05:26,070 --> 05:05:22,320
tampa but west of lakeland yeah there

8006
05:05:28,948 --> 05:05:26,080
you go east of tampa west of lakeland um

8007
05:05:30,948 --> 05:05:28,958
it was downtown um we live in what's

8008
05:05:33,350 --> 05:05:30,958
called the historic district

8009
05:05:34,868 --> 05:05:33,360
probably a three three or four minute

8010
05:05:36,150 --> 05:05:34,878
walk from what's considered downtown

8011
05:05:37,830 --> 05:05:36,160
plant city

8012
05:05:40,310 --> 05:05:37,840
and um

8013
05:05:42,948 --> 05:05:40,320
i just got off work that night i had uh

8014
05:05:45,030 --> 05:05:42,958
picked up bruce and we went down to

8015
05:05:48,708 --> 05:05:45,040
wendy's to get

8016
05:05:50,550 --> 05:05:48,718
some food um we came back

8017
05:05:52,868 --> 05:05:50,560
sat in my car for a little bit and we

8018
05:05:55,750 --> 05:05:52,878
started listening to an episode of

8019
05:05:59,670 --> 05:05:55,760
the podcast it was episode

8020
05:06:02,070 --> 05:05:59,680
volume four of eyewitness accounts um

8021
05:06:04,550 --> 05:06:02,080
that one's the one with the dude whose

8022
05:06:05,830 --> 05:06:04,560
wife goes outside while she's smoking

8023
05:06:07,830 --> 05:06:05,840
and uh

8024
05:06:10,470 --> 05:06:07,840
sees the craft fly over his house and

8025
05:06:12,470 --> 05:06:10,480
he's the sheriff deputy and

8026
05:06:14,868 --> 05:06:12,480
um

8027
05:06:17,590 --> 05:06:14,878
and uh we finished up the episode

8028
05:06:19,750 --> 05:06:17,600
uh on that story specifically

8029
05:06:21,510 --> 05:06:19,760
and you know

8030
05:06:24,150 --> 05:06:21,520
getting the stuff out of my car getting

8031
05:06:25,910 --> 05:06:24,160
my phone put my phone in my pocket um

8032
05:06:28,310 --> 05:06:25,920
opened the door

8033
05:06:29,910 --> 05:06:28,320
took two or three steps and i'm standing

8034
05:06:31,910 --> 05:06:29,920
behind

8035
05:06:33,510 --> 05:06:31,920
bruce's car which

8036
05:06:36,390 --> 05:06:33,520
we didn't take

8037
05:06:37,830 --> 05:06:36,400
and i just happened to look up and when

8038
05:06:39,670 --> 05:06:37,840
i look up

8039
05:06:42,470 --> 05:06:39,680
i see um

8040
05:06:44,550 --> 05:06:42,480
a boomerang-shaped craft like

8041
05:06:47,670 --> 05:06:44,560
exactly a boomerang

8042
05:06:50,788 --> 05:06:47,680
the exact same shape to my uh to me

8043
05:06:54,310 --> 05:06:50,798
it was uh black and white

8044
05:06:57,510 --> 05:06:54,320
it was almost completely black

8045
05:06:59,190 --> 05:06:57,520
except on the border of the craft

8046
05:07:00,070 --> 05:06:59,200
there was

8047
05:07:02,550 --> 05:07:00,080
about

8048
05:07:03,990 --> 05:07:02,560
i don't know a thick

8049
05:07:07,270 --> 05:07:04,000
line of white

8050
05:07:09,510 --> 05:07:07,280
and on the white line were orbs that

8051
05:07:10,788 --> 05:07:09,520
surrounded the entire craft on the

8052
05:07:13,990 --> 05:07:10,798
outside

8053
05:07:15,110 --> 05:07:14,000
but the inside of the craft was black

8054
05:07:17,350 --> 05:07:15,120
and um

8055
05:07:18,550 --> 05:07:17,360
i watched it and it was going slow i

8056
05:07:21,190 --> 05:07:18,560
mean

8057
05:07:23,670 --> 05:07:21,200
you know 20 30 miles an hour and it was

8058
05:07:27,670 --> 05:07:23,680
so low and quiet it was

8059
05:07:29,910 --> 05:07:27,680
not even 20 you know 200 feet above us

8060
05:07:31,910 --> 05:07:29,920
and you know i watch it for about three

8061
05:07:34,070 --> 05:07:31,920
seconds before i

8062
05:07:36,550 --> 05:07:34,080
get the sense in me to turn around and

8063
05:07:37,750 --> 05:07:36,560
slap bruce and i turn around and hit him

8064
05:07:39,910 --> 05:07:37,760
on the shoulder and say look at this

8065
05:07:41,910 --> 05:07:39,920
thing holy

8066
05:07:42,788 --> 05:07:41,920
and he turns around looks up and sees it

8067
05:07:45,670 --> 05:07:42,798
and

8068
05:07:48,788 --> 05:07:45,680
you know bruce you wanna

8069
05:07:50,708 --> 05:07:48,798
it took a moment to realize what exactly

8070
05:07:52,390 --> 05:07:50,718
i was looking at because of the fact

8071
05:07:53,750 --> 05:07:52,400
that it takes you a moment to realize

8072
05:07:55,830 --> 05:07:53,760
that you're looking at something you've

8073
05:07:56,628 --> 05:07:55,840
never seen before

8074
05:07:59,430 --> 05:07:56,638
but

8075
05:08:02,708 --> 05:07:59,440
overall it looked exactly as jake as

8076
05:08:04,628 --> 05:08:02,718
jake described it but i would say that

8077
05:08:06,310 --> 05:08:04,638
it gave me the impression of being

8078
05:08:08,868 --> 05:08:06,320
something meant for

8079
05:08:10,550 --> 05:08:08,878
reconnaissance if anything

8080
05:08:12,310 --> 05:08:10,560
that's what it seemed like to me it

8081
05:08:14,830 --> 05:08:12,320
seemed like it was

8082
05:08:18,070 --> 05:08:14,840
observing what it flew over

8083
05:08:20,868 --> 05:08:18,080
um so yeah uh

8084
05:08:23,510 --> 05:08:20,878
and so we watched it and um

8085
05:08:25,990 --> 05:08:23,520
we just kind of sat there and watched it

8086
05:08:27,270 --> 05:08:26,000
for another few seconds fly behind a

8087
05:08:30,390 --> 05:08:27,280
tree

8088
05:08:32,230 --> 05:08:30,400
uh that's in a neighbor's yard behind

8089
05:08:35,670 --> 05:08:32,240
our house

8090
05:08:38,948 --> 05:08:35,680
and uh we stood there for a few seconds

8091
05:08:41,270 --> 05:08:38,958
afterward kind of freaking out because

8092
05:08:43,030 --> 05:08:41,280
i've been into the ufo phenomenon for

8093
05:08:45,990 --> 05:08:43,040
most my life so

8094
05:08:47,590 --> 05:08:46,000
seeing something like this

8095
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just

8096
05:08:51,910 --> 05:08:50,240
fly over your house in the middle of the

8097
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night

8098
05:08:57,670 --> 05:08:56,080
it just kind of gets you going and uh i

8099
05:08:59,670 --> 05:08:57,680
freaked out for

8100
05:09:01,190 --> 05:08:59,680
a little bit and bruce is trying to calm

8101
05:09:02,390 --> 05:09:01,200
me down and i finally get my sense

8102
05:09:05,590 --> 05:09:02,400
together and

8103
05:09:08,550 --> 05:09:05,600
you know it was going kind of south east

8104
05:09:10,390 --> 05:09:08,560
south direction and um

8105
05:09:12,868 --> 05:09:10,400
i tell bruce to hop in my car because i

8106
05:09:15,190 --> 05:09:12,878
want to see if i can go see this thing

8107
05:09:17,670 --> 05:09:15,200
again as it's flying so

8108
05:09:19,750 --> 05:09:17,680
you know i know that

8109
05:09:22,070 --> 05:09:19,760
south of where we're facing is highway

8110
05:09:23,190 --> 05:09:22,080
39 which leads out into an area called

8111
05:09:24,470 --> 05:09:23,200
lithia

8112
05:09:27,030 --> 05:09:24,480
which is where

8113
05:09:28,868 --> 05:09:27,040
my dad's family is from and

8114
05:09:30,470 --> 05:09:28,878
my dad has had his own share of

8115
05:09:33,030 --> 05:09:30,480
experiences you know we don't really

8116
05:09:34,948 --> 05:09:33,040
talk about him much but uh

8117
05:09:37,270 --> 05:09:34,958
he's had his share

8118
05:09:39,510 --> 05:09:37,280
and you know i'm not saying these this

8119
05:09:40,868 --> 05:09:39,520
craft and his experiences are related at

8120
05:09:43,350 --> 05:09:40,878
all but

8121
05:09:44,948 --> 05:09:43,360
the way that this craft was flying was

8122
05:09:45,750 --> 05:09:44,958
the direction

8123
05:09:48,310 --> 05:09:45,760
of

8124
05:09:49,590 --> 05:09:48,320
almost exactly where i believe

8125
05:09:50,948 --> 05:09:49,600
that area

8126
05:09:52,788 --> 05:09:50,958
is

8127
05:09:54,470 --> 05:09:52,798
so i got on my car and we tried looking

8128
05:09:57,190 --> 05:09:54,480
for it again but we just couldn't find

8129
05:10:01,510 --> 05:09:57,200
it and we finally drove for about

8130
05:10:03,350 --> 05:10:01,520
35 45 minutes on to highway 39

8131
05:10:05,510 --> 05:10:03,360
and we didn't see nothing and we kind of

8132
05:10:06,470 --> 05:10:05,520
just turned around and went back home

8133
05:10:08,788 --> 05:10:06,480
um

8134
05:10:12,628 --> 05:10:08,798
went to bed like normal

8135
05:10:15,910 --> 05:10:12,638
nothing else really happened uh we told

8136
05:10:17,150 --> 05:10:15,920
my parents told my dad he was

8137
05:10:18,628 --> 05:10:17,160
intrigued

8138
05:10:20,390 --> 05:10:18,638
[Music]

8139
05:10:22,070 --> 05:10:20,400
told my girlfriend

8140
05:10:25,590 --> 05:10:22,080
and that's about it that's all that came

8141
05:10:27,430 --> 05:10:25,600
of it um in my opinion you know

8142
05:10:29,350 --> 05:10:27,440
there's a few air force bases around

8143
05:10:33,030 --> 05:10:29,360
here uh mcdill is one of the biggest

8144
05:10:35,510 --> 05:10:33,040
ones right mcdo's the air force yeah um

8145
05:10:36,390 --> 05:10:35,520
mcdill's not too far it's over in tampa

8146
05:10:38,070 --> 05:10:36,400
so

8147
05:10:40,470 --> 05:10:38,080
it would make sense that this is

8148
05:10:43,430 --> 05:10:40,480
actually you know maybe just kind of a

8149
05:10:45,990 --> 05:10:43,440
secret military craft or something

8150
05:10:48,070 --> 05:10:46,000
but even if it is like

8151
05:10:50,948 --> 05:10:48,080
we get a why come over

8152
05:10:52,550 --> 05:10:50,958
downtown plant city florida

8153
05:10:54,628 --> 05:10:52,560
just

8154
05:10:55,430 --> 05:10:54,638
you know where god and everybody can see

8155
05:10:57,830 --> 05:10:55,440
i mean

8156
05:10:58,628 --> 05:10:57,840
it's not an unpopulated area where we're

8157
05:11:00,310 --> 05:10:58,638
at

8158
05:11:03,670 --> 05:11:00,320
i don't know how i

8159
05:11:05,670 --> 05:11:03,680
you know reiterate this enough but

8160
05:11:07,510 --> 05:11:05,680
it's so mind-boggling that

8161
05:11:10,150 --> 05:11:07,520
a military craft

8162
05:11:11,350 --> 05:11:10,160
that if this was one this secret would

8163
05:11:13,750 --> 05:11:11,360
just

8164
05:11:15,110 --> 05:11:13,760
slowly quietly

8165
05:11:17,510 --> 05:11:15,120
make its way

8166
05:11:19,830 --> 05:11:17,520
over some houses for fun

8167
05:11:20,628 --> 05:11:19,840
yeah bruce you want to add anything

8168
05:11:24,490 --> 05:11:20,638
um

8169
05:11:44,740 --> 05:11:24,500
i don't have much to add no all right

8170
05:11:46,650 --> 05:11:44,750
[Music]

8171
05:12:08,310 --> 05:11:46,660
[Applause]

8172
05:12:10,230 --> 05:12:08,320
[Music]

8173
05:12:12,310 --> 05:12:10,240
somewhere in the skies is produced by

8174
05:12:14,150 --> 05:12:12,320
third kind productions in association